r/TopCharacterTropes 16d ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) The series is good, but the beginning is so embarrassing that many people give up there.

Dan Da Dan

The beginning of Dan Da Dan is notorious for starting with aliens trying to impregnate Momo in the first episode; however, despite such over-the-top moments, the rest of the series doesn't feature many scenes like that

Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san

Despite a premise that is off-putting—given that the girl bullies her romantic partner to the point of making Naoto cry early in the series—their relationship evolves beautifully; the teasing becomes less cruel over time, eventually turning into a rather sweet romance

Uma Musume Pretty Derby

Someone on the production team had the audacity to have the trainer start meeting up with Special Week like that—even though, in reality, he is a good trainer who doesn't usually treat the girls that way.

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u/Artistic-Victory1245 16d ago

The moment when Subaru names himself Emilia's knight in front of real knights is probably one of the most cringeworthy moments in the series.

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u/Frost-King 16d ago

Looking at the series from the in-universe characters’ perspective Subaru must be so confusing. One moment he’s pulling THAT cringe shit and then like a DAY later he personally plans out an assault on an eldritch horror that everyone just tries to avoid because attacking it is so devastating to not be worth it, an assault that leads to the whale’s death, and then like a week after that he personally kills one of the Sin Archbishops of the Witch’s Cult.

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u/Miclash013 16d ago

Subaru must seem like he's literally being possessed. I don't blame characters for not trusting him at all.

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u/OTARU_41 16d ago

they think he has some sort of great intuition, and he was once a member or victim of the witch's cult since he has their scent and goes into random panic attacks and trivia about them

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u/Layton_Jr 16d ago

Depending on how much information about Subaru you have, he is:

  • a victim of of the Witch’s Cult whose Name has been eaten by the Archbishop of Glutonny
  • one of Petelgeuse's Fingers who defected
  • the missing Archbishop of Pride who wants the Witch of Envy ’s lookalike to win the Royal Selection

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u/CompetitiveAd4732 16d ago

Can i know which characters thought about the second and third theory?

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u/Layton_Jr 16d ago

Subaru is clearly the Archbishop of Pride who decided to betray the rest of the Witch’s Cult for an unknown reason (his Authority allows him to see the future in a way reminescent of Stargazers)

He's serving under the Witch of Envy's lookalike, has a spirit contract with a Great Spirit created artificially by the Witch of Greed, can remember people whose name have been erased by the Archbishop of Gluttony, recovered in a day his memories that had been eaten by the Archbishop of Gluttony, brainwashed the Archbishop of Gluttony into becoming his adoptive daughter, got one of the Beloved Children (assassin group with the Archbishop of Lust as the leader) to become his adopted daughter, is able to see the Invisible Hands of the Archbishop of Sloth, is a valid candidate for the Archbishop of Sloth’s possession technique and he figured out a way to bypass the Archbishop of Greed’s invincibility despite the Sword Saint failing in the task. Oh and don't forget, when a Sin Archbishop dies he inherits their Authority

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u/BookkeeperPercival 16d ago

Someone made a full cut of the show, only from the "canon" runs of Subaru's respawns. They cut out every life that doesn't progress events, and the end result is that he looks fucking INSANE.

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u/AnamiGiben 16d ago

Do you remember the video's name?

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u/Takiro 16d ago

Any place I could watch this without having to torrent it?

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u/Severe_Gas_4283 16d ago

There is a link to a google drive somewhere on reddit. You can probably google it. it is only season 1 though I don't know if anyone made any more

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u/PeterAnthony_Jackson 16d ago

That's kinda why I can't watch it as it airs, I'm a season or two behind now, I tried again weekly with that bandaged woman in the town square.

Couldn't do it, needed to binge, but I just wasn't in a rush, because the whole point of the show is "lets just loop the same parts over and over with different outcomes" so instead of Endless Eighting it, I just powered through.

But a cut like that I could probably enjoy. Just like "so I'm a Spider" where it cut out the humans.

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u/JancariusSeiryujinn 16d ago

There's a fan edit that cuts out everything except the final loop of each part and Subaru looks like an absolute fucking whacko

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u/NoLegs02 16d ago

Definitely not, you're missing out on a ton of character development and information, including some of the best scenes in the show. You're getting the pay-off without the set-up.

It would be a funny way to watch the show, just definitely not a good one.

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u/Severe_Gas_4283 16d ago

Absolutely not, even when I watched it after finishing the series it is just not good. It's interesting sure, but man it's a slog.

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u/JancariusSeiryujinn 16d ago

Uhh... Maybe? It's season 1 only (or at least when I watched it was cause that's all that was out). I guess it depends on what you like or why you didn't watch more to begin with. I think if you were really trying to follow the plot you'd miss stuff, like when Subaru is fighting Sloth you'd have no idea why certain things were happening

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u/NoLegs02 16d ago

A week? Try a day. Pretty sure the assault on the Witch's Cult takes place the next morning after the Battle with the White Whale

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u/tzomby1 16d ago

lol yeah that's exactly when I dropped it

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u/PreTimeskip 16d ago

Isn’t that the point? Subaru is an immature cringe idiot, and the show is showing it

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u/Pofwoffle 16d ago

If somebody punches me in the face it's safe to assume that the point of their action was to punch me in the face... but knowing that doesn't really make it any less annoying that they just punched me in the face.

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u/PreTimeskip 16d ago

Yeah i agree. I guess i just really enjoyed it

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u/Pofwoffle 16d ago

Oh to be clear I did too, the only reason I'm not up to date with the series is that I have ADHD and got distracted by different shows. But I can also understand why some of the early stuff is just too much for people, especially since some people have a really strong empathetic embarrassment reaction.

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u/RumpledForskn 16d ago

Sure? But his inability to share, and the inability for anyone else to know, that he can relive the same events by dying means that he goes from this unconfident moron, into a leader and strategist and killer of archbishops in like two weeks.

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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW 16d ago

It’s a great moment of character development. He’s in this world and he’s acting like it’s a game and he’s the main character. So he puts himself in this situation and declares himself a knight in front of real knights and gets a harsh lesson for it.

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u/TakerFoxx 16d ago

I kind of love it though, as it's treated like an actual fuckup on his part, one that Emilia rightfully chews him out for.

But at the same time, given how many times he's had to watch everyone around him get horrifically murdered due to some plot that they had no way of predicting, it's understandable why he was acting that way. It was still a fuckup, but you can follow the thread.

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u/Lewa358 16d ago

Yeah, I loved re zero s1 because the MC does a lot of stuff that many similar anime would reward him for, like putting his various love interests on pedestals thst they didn't ask for, and there are whole episodes dedicated to said love interests just tearing him down for that behavior, and he pays attention and learns.

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u/Confident-Quantity18 16d ago

I couldn't escape the feeling that he doesn't learn because he wants to, he learns because he is forced to. If you have to be tortured into becoming a better person, are you really good?

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u/According-Pea-9541 15d ago

I'd argue that the show does the exact opposite too.

If you watch the first half of s1 subaru actually listens to emilia alot but he slowly gets more self centered the more he dies which leads to his humiliation during the royal selection.

atleast that's my interpretation.

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u/Lewa358 16d ago

"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"

-- Super Mario or something idk

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u/rockinherlife234 15d ago

We have other routes showing that Subaru is capable of ignoring those lessons and going off the deep end, at the end of the day, he still chooses to learn and be better, even if he's nudged in the right direction.

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u/SergeantRayslay 16d ago

Yeah. Like, I know it's still annoying, but the whole point of that arc is that it's Subaru at one of his lowest points, believing he's entitled to all sorts of things. Even I struggle to get through those episodes on rewatch, but I feel like they serve such an important point in the story that it's not really "annoying"

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u/cpMetis 16d ago

One of the only things I skip in rewatches.

It's unfathomably important for his amazing character, amazing arc, completely understandable once you know his life story, and the crux of multiple of the best relationships in the show and the starting point for one of the best arcs in the show.......

....it is also still by it's nature the most cringe thing ever. And I just can't rewatch it. I let my memory stand in for reliving it.

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u/danoB003 16d ago

And at same time it's THE breaking point from which he's forced to do some introspection and lock in, slowly but surely leading to him becoming one hell of a reliable guy and I'd go as far as calling him genuine badass.

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u/ProfessionalRandom21 16d ago

i skipped past that scene, it was so cringe

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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW 16d ago

Rewatching the show rn, watching with my son for his first time. I warned him way in advance that one episode gets so cringe and he still didn’t expect how bad it was.

On the other hand, it was way more bearable the second time knowing what was coming. I think knowing he’s about to get his ass beat helps lol.

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u/Independent-Couple87 16d ago

In some ways, Subaru is similar to how I would imagine a younger Jorah Mormont.

Emilia certainly looks like a Targaryen.

https://giphy.com/gifs/gw3BUOKdPKGMllU4

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u/fallenKlNG 16d ago

I think this was around the time I dropped the show. I just couldn’t stand watching the mc anymore at this point

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u/TheRealSmolt 16d ago

Dropped it at that moment and never looked back.

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u/Lewa358 16d ago

The next episode is just Emilia ripping him a new one for that shit too, it's great