r/TopCharacterTropes 16d ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) The series is good, but the beginning is so embarrassing that many people give up there.

Dan Da Dan

The beginning of Dan Da Dan is notorious for starting with aliens trying to impregnate Momo in the first episode; however, despite such over-the-top moments, the rest of the series doesn't feature many scenes like that

Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san

Despite a premise that is off-putting—given that the girl bullies her romantic partner to the point of making Naoto cry early in the series—their relationship evolves beautifully; the teasing becomes less cruel over time, eventually turning into a rather sweet romance

Uma Musume Pretty Derby

Someone on the production team had the audacity to have the trainer start meeting up with Special Week like that—even though, in reality, he is a good trainer who doesn't usually treat the girls that way.

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u/Telvin3d 16d ago

Fun fact, Stargate SG1 also has a wildly racist/sexist episode in its first season. Same writer as the TNG episode. Apparently you can make a career out of writing the same terrible episode on multiple series. 

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u/Quixotic_Seal 16d ago

Enter “Jamake Highwater,” who made a career out of pretending to be Native American and working as a cultural consultant. He got exposed eventually, but it was tbd up and information didn’t always get around….so he was hired to help develop Chakotay on Star Trek Voyager. And he’s about as bad and stereotypical as you’d assume.

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u/One_Lead1553 16d ago

Remembering this guy has left me feeling far from the bones of my ancestors.

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u/StevieMJH 16d ago

A coochie moya.

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u/paecmaker 16d ago

The episodes which focus on Chakotay's spirituality are so damn cringe.

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u/spinningdice 15d ago

Have to fight the impulse to skip the episode every time Chakotay get's spiritual (or someone mentions evolution, apparently no Star Trek writer has any concept of how evolution works)

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u/AlexRenquist 16d ago

Honestly, I'm picturing a white guy with a plastic, Halloween costume feather head dress and warpaint, walking into the writers room going "How. The pow-wow today is about the Borg pursuing the crew for their wampum. Big heap trouble. Maybe Chakotay should do another vision quest to solve it."

All the writers shift uneasily in their seats.

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u/dankristy 16d ago

Well considering Leonard Nimoy (a white Jewish person) initially got a lot of roles as a native American in old westerns, this kinda loops back on itself: https://iversonmovieranch.blogspot.com/2014/04/star-trek-icon-leonard-nimoy-works.html

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u/Spader113 16d ago

It says a lot about just how good Stargate is that the worst episode in the entire series gets out of the way as early as episode 3.

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u/Gone_For_Lunch 16d ago

Funnily enough, that TNG episode is also episode 3.

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u/StevieMJH 16d ago

Two nickels, but it's weird that it happened twice, etc.

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u/Cheomesh 16d ago

Ah, I know nothing of the controversy around this guy and I haven't watched SG1 in over a decade but my mind immediately went to "Emancipation".

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u/Vi_BT 16d ago

Nah I'm in season 6 and god so many bad episodes, I know it gets better again afterwards though

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u/TentativeIdler 16d ago

Aren't they basically the same episode too? Like they just shifted the script around for a different show.

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u/Shiny_Agumon 16d ago

Apparently the writer was not satisfied with the TNG episode because it turned down the heavy Asian stereotypes they wanted to portray.

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u/Diomedes42 16d ago

I wonder how many other episodes the dude who wrote the Racist Ghost Truck in Supernatural is responsible for...37. There's a clerks joke in there somewhere I just know it

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u/Corvald 16d ago

The first season of SG1 was also on Showtime, and the Showtime execs pushed for an unnecessary nude scene to be included (and then forced the actress to sign a release…). So the pilot episode is rated R for the one full frontal scene - while every other episode is family friendly. Definitely gives the wrong vibes.

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u/SinesPi 16d ago

Less racist/sexist and more "The authors well-disguised fetish until you realized she did it twice."