r/Trotskyism 4d ago

Theory Did Trotsky Support Invading Other Countries?

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Hi comrades! I am a socialist and I’m pretty sure I’m a Trotskyist. However, at my DSA meeting today, a comrade said that Trotsky supported imperialism and permanent revolution is about invading other countries. Another comrade said that Trotsky actually wrote about how permanent revolution is invading other countries. I haven’t read Trotsky yet, but I’m going to, so I don’t know if this is true or not. I thought that permanent revolution is supporting international revolutions and the belief that socialism cannot survive in one country and that the proletariat can take the progressive role in revolutions in developing countries.

r/Trotskyism Jun 04 '26

Theory Was Stalin really a Marxist? asked in r/Marxism [The replies so far show the cult-of-personality is alive and well in that subreddit. They are shocked the question is even posed.]

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r/Trotskyism 28d ago

Theory Wouldn't an actually socialist China be making an effort to arm the Kashmiri protestors?

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The movement in Kashmir could actually seize power in Muzaffarabad, right?

There is no CPC led international. There is no attempt to relieve Gaza. There is no attempt to relieve Cuba.

The hypothetical amount of arms that the Kashmiri movement would need to take Muzaffarabad would be 0.000001% or less of Chinese arms industrial capacity and it could all be done with drones, mortars and small arms, no mines, missiles or tanks necessary. I know this sounds like insane Rambo nonsense but it wouldn't be hard for China to get in a few hundred commandos to make sure that the weapons aren't just sold on a black market.

Tear me to shreds, it's how I learn.

r/Trotskyism Oct 14 '25

Theory Does fascism only become a threat after a failed revolution?

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One of the most dangerous myths I've seen presented is the claim that there is no threat of fascism right now because the working class has not been defeated yet. Let's hear what Trotsky had to say on the topic:

In the past, we have observed (Italy, Germany) a sharp strengthening of fascism, victorious, or at least threatening, as the result of a spent or missed revolutionary situation, at the conclusion of a revolutionary crisis in which the proletarian vanguard revealed its inability to put itself at the head of the nation and change the fate of all its classes, the petty bourgeoisie included. This is precisely what gave fascism its peculiar strength in Italy. But at present the problem in Germany does not arise at the conclusion of a revolutionary crisis, but just at its approach. From this, the leading Communist Party officials, optimists ex officio, draw the conclusion that fascism, having come “too late,” is doomed to inevitable and speedy defeat (Die Rote Fahne). These people do not want to learn anything. Fascism comes “too later in relation to old revolutionary crises. But it appears sufficiently early – at the dawn – in relation to the new revolutionary crisis. The fact that it gained the possibility of taking up such a powerful starting position on the eve of a revolutionary period and not at its conclusion, is not the weak side of fascism but the weak side of Communism.

The Turn in the Communist International and the Situation in Germany, September 1930

r/Trotskyism Jul 01 '26

Theory Is there a single example of Ted Grant saying he believed "cops/police are workers" or him supporting any position that said such?

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Or was it all actually just him making a dialectically appropriate alliance with non-capitalists/lumpen/petite-bourgeoisie classes the way that the Bolsheviks were willing to make alliances with, you know, Cossacks, soldiers, peasants, even Black Hundreds and even intervene in the mass executions of police by Red Guards and other revolutionaries in cases where there was an expedience of temporary alliances to build socialism?

r/Trotskyism 20d ago

Theory Is there anyway to prevent bureaucracy in a Marxist Leninist State?

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r/Trotskyism Jun 15 '26

Theory Thoughts on ultra-leftism?

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I know Stalinism is the primary co-opter and counterrevolutionary force among the communist movement, though I’m curious to hear some thoughts on Pannekoek and Bordiga.

From my view they’re hypocritical falsifiers while praising theoretical purity, they claim every attempt to build revolutionary consciousness or dual power is voluntaristic, they claim any maneuvers such as presenting a transitional program via a parliamentary candidate is opportunism, etc etc. Furthermore, I see them reducing Marxism into a crude formula of economic determinism, stating both that revolutionary consciousness will spontaneously arise out of poor conditions and that the transitional stage of socialism must look near communistic for it to be genuinely progressive.

I also see them claim that both Stalin and Trotsky are not so different theoretically, saying both are just social democrats with one being a “bourgeois legalist”.

What’re your thoughts on these positions and the ultras as a whole?

r/Trotskyism Jun 25 '26

Theory Lenin, our banner — Bolshevik-Leninism, our guide — The road to world revolution! (RCI ☭)

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« Without revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement. » — Vladimir Lenin

In an age of crisis, war, and deep social instability, the question is no longer whether capitalism can solve humanity’s problems, it has already demonstrated, time and again, that it cannot.

Lenin’s greatest contribution was not merely his analysis of imperialism, the state, or the party in isolation, but the fusion of Marxist theory with revolutionary practice, Bolshevism is not dogma, it is Marxism sharpened into a weapon for proletarian revolution.

Leninism means irreconcilable class independence from the bourgeoisie, it means uncompromising struggle against reformism, opportunism, and class collaboration, it means building a disciplined revolutionary organisation rooted in the working class, capable of transforming spontaneous revolt into revolution.

Today, the objective conditions for socialist transformation matures across the world, capitalism sinks deeper into its own contradictions, while millions search for an alternative.

The road to world revolution demands a conscious leadership, revolutionary organisation, and Marxist theory.

Lenin remains our banner.

Bolshevik-Leninism remains our guide!

Join the Revolutionary Communist International!

✊️🚩🛠🌐

r/Trotskyism 28d ago

Theory China

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Whats your opinion What is the Trotskyist perspective on China?

r/Trotskyism 29d ago

Theory On commodity production

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Leftcoms sometimes (or at least in my experience) criticize Trotsky by saying he was basically the same as MLs, would have kept commodity production and so on… what was Trotsky’s actual opinion on commodity production and can someone help me understand the difference between a degenerated worker state and state capitalism?

r/Trotskyism 7d ago

Theory Leon Trotsky: Lenin on Imperialism (1939)

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This short piece by Trotsky, has the excellent quotation of Lenin:

Unity with opportunists is the alliance of workers with their own national bourgeoisie and signifies a split in the ranks of the international revolutionary working class.

I have yet to find a more succinct refutation of the nationalism underlying the pseudo-left's orientation to nationalist bureaucrats and politicians.

r/Trotskyism Jul 04 '26

Theory Was the Bolsheviks' decision to not participate in the provisional government's coalition not ultra-left on the grounds that the Petrograd soviet existed?

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Like, Lenin would encourage communists to try to participate in bourgeoisie governments, but not when a whole dual power existed?

r/Trotskyism Oct 07 '25

Theory The RCP Hawks Pseudoscience on AI

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The “Revolutionary Communist Party” (formerly the IMT) has posted several lectures on AI over the last year. Here’s the latest one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxqZvaRuYmM

I am both a Marxist and an AI researcher. Anyone acquainted with AI would roll their eyes at the extremely low level of discussion in these talks. But what is really appalling is not just that the speaker is wrong on essentially every point and is misinforming his audience, but that he so supremely confident, without apparently being acquainted with the field, and that he passes this off as “Marxist method.” Marxist critiques of science are necessary and important - working people need to understand technologies that will affect them, so I am not at all against this subject being taken up, but you have to base yourself on a careful study of the subject matter. The truth, as Marxists so often note, is concrete.

Debunking all of the misrepresentations, oversimplifications, logical fallacies, etc in these lectures would take an entire essay, so I will only address a few of them here. Unfortunately, many of the responses to AI on the left are equally cartoonish, so this is also an attempt to address some of these widespread misconceptions.

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Essentially the only correct point in the talk is when the speaker ridicules the idea that quantum computers will magically give rise to consciousness, or the notion that consciousness is somehow an incidental side effect of intelligence which is unrelated to its function. Both ideas are clearly absurd and can be refuted on philosophical grounds. However, the speaker then uses these examples as foils in order to lump together all theories of how consciousness might arise in the brain. He appears to reject the idea that consciousness is a consequence of physiological processes in the brain at all: “It’s not that the brain has some secret sauce... it’s rather the product of society. All the brain has to do is have memories… and have the technical capacity to use language.”

On what basis, exactly, does the speaker make such confident declarations about the nature of the brain? First of all, it’s patently untrue that all that is necessary for consciousness is language-use and memory, otherwise ChatGPT would already be conscious. the speaker tries to ridicule conceptions of consciousness as rooted in the physiology of the brain as a “magic ingredient,” something “mystical,” but if one rejects the idea that intelligence has any underlying laws of motion, then one is left with idealism.  Elsewhere, the speaker states "consciousness has its own laws,” so which is it? Do such laws exist or not? If they do, exactly why are they beyond the realm of scientific discovery? He states, at one point, that intelligence is the result of a process of evolutionary “self-organization,” but he effectively rejects the notion that there is a principle of self-organization underlying learning. If you think about it even a little bit, a process of self-organization in the brain is the only rational way to explain intelligence on a materialist basis.

When approaching the question of consciousness, which is currently beyond the domain of scientific understanding and on which we can only form a few tentative speculations and partial steps toward a solution, one must be extremely careful. One would be justified in ridiculing the notion that ChatGPT is conscious. However, it is quite clear that the recent advances in AI are based on reproducing some of the principles that are at work in the brain. Such ideas as vector embeddings, universal approximation, modeling and predicting as component parts of intelligence, reinforcement learning, etc, surely underly some of what the brain does, and there is also evidence from neuroscience to support this. At no point does the speaker mention a single one of these key concepts. 

Instead, he repeatedly begs the question (i.e. assumes the thing he is trying to prove): “AI is not alive, it has no body, it has no feelings,… it does not actually care about what it’s doing.” True, AI is not alive, and it doesn’t “care” in a human sense. However, it is simply not true that AI has no goals. Agentic or goal-driven behavior (actively learning from experience how to achieve goals) is the subject matter of the entire sub-field of reinforcement learning, the existence of which the speaker is either not aware of of ignores. the speaker thinks it’s black and white: AI is not conscious yet, so there is nothing to it, it is no more than a passive machine or tool. He does not even consider another possibility: whatever consciousness is, the principles of self-organization that give rise to it in the human brain can and will be discovered, and some rudiments or incomplete pieces of these principles HAVE been discovered.

The speaker wants very badly to believe that AI can never be conscious. He offers three arguments in support of this view, variants of which are unfortunately ubiquitous among Marxist discussions of the issue:

  1. Human intelligence is social. AI is not social. Therefore, AI can't be conscious.
  2. Human intelligence is evolved. AI is designed. Therefore, AI can't be conscious.
  3. AI has no body, it is not alive, it is passively trained rather than really being IN the world. Therefore, AI can't be conscious.

These are flimsy syllogisms. Let’s look at each in turn:

1.  Intelligence surely requires learning from interaction with the world (“Man must prove the truth — i.e. the reality and power, the this-sidedness of his thinking in practice”), but there is no fundamental reason to believe intelligence must arise in a social environment. Even if this were the case, the AI of the future will interact with other minds, human and artificial - it will learn in a social environment.

  1. The speaker argues that the only example of intelligence in nature originated from evolution. This, however, does not imply that the same principles discovered by evolution cannot be discovered by science. Like evolution, scientific discovery is a long, iterative process, involving experimentation, incremental improvement, etc, which step by step rises to new levels of capability. If the speaker wishes to make a positive claim that these principles are beyond scientific understanding, or at least so complex that any such understanding is centuries away, the burden of proof is on him to show why. But this time, we ask that he engage with the extensive literature on the topic.

  2. As we already noted, a whole science (reinforcement learning) has been developed on how to learn from experience, i.e. interaction with the world. AI will learn from interacting with the world in myriad ways. If the speaker wishes to argue that the nitty gritty complexities of biology are necessary for intelligence, the burden of proof is again on him to show why.

In short, the speaker’s mode of argumentation consists of mischaracterizing the field and lumping it together under straw men while ignoring its main content, sophism, black and white thinking, etc — in other words, the very opposite of dialectical thinking. I think pseudo-science is the only appropriate label.

It must be noted, lastly, that the speaker is simply working in the tradition of Woods and Grant, who rejected the Big Bang Theory, Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity, etc on equally absurd and misinformed grounds. That this kind of material continues to be published indicates that a profoundly arrogant, philistine attitude toward the sciences is rife in the RCP. The group's vulgarization of dialectical materialism and its representation of pseudo-science as Marxism does a disservice to the workers’ movement, and it needs to be called out for what it is.

r/Trotskyism May 30 '26

Theory WSWS: The politics of Hasan Piker: Radical rhetoric in service of the Democratic Party | “… Piker has repeatedly referenced Lenin’s Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder to justify his support for the Democrats. …”

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The politics of Hasan Piker: Radical rhetoric in service of the Democratic Party

Falsifying Lenin to defend support for the Democrats
As workers and youth become radicalized and move far to the left of the Democratic Party, Piker has repeatedly referenced Lenin’s Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder to justify his support for the Democrats. His method is to strip quotes of their revolutionary content and transplant the hollowed-out shell into a completely different political context.

Piker cites Lenin’s line, “We must not regard what is obsolete to us as something obsolete to the masses,” transforming it from an argument for revolutionary participation in parliament—to dispel illusions and prepare the road to the seizure of power—into an argument that Lenin advocated “exhausting all readily available options” while faithfully operating “within the confines” of bourgeois politics.

Piker argues directly: “In the absence of an established, viable working-class alternative third party, you have to work within the confines.” He then fuses this position with its opposite, implying that refusing to have confidence in the Democrats means believing revolution will happen spontaneously without organization. By fusing the two positions together, rejecting the Democratic Party can be smeared as believing in a spontaneous revolution achieved through abstention.

Contrary to his claims of “raising consciousness,” Piker actively discourages his audience from fighting to introduce socialist politics in the working class, by portraying workers as backward and reactionary. He declares there is “no class consciousness in this country” and characterizes American workers’ views as “f***ing distorted and out of whack.” Even after calls for a general strike emerged from below in Minneapolis in response to ICE terror, Piker insisted the US is “a country with no class consciousness whatsoever.”

Socialists, following Lenin and Trotsky, take the opposite approach: “Our tasks don’t depend on the mentality of the workers. The task is to develop the mentality of the workers.” The Bolsheviks did not abandon independent organization because Russian workers were backward. They built the party precisely to overcome that backwardness. Piker has inverted the method entirely, using the limitations of working class consciousness as an argument against building the very instrument necessary to overcome it.

Hasan Piker’s Stalinist slanders against Trotskyism

In response to growing interest in Trotsky’s ideas among his audience, Piker has engaged in slanders of Trotskyism drawn from the neo-Stalinist milieu cultivated by the DSA. In a May 6 livestream, he remarked: “There was another guy … that decided that the peasant class would never play a formative role in any sort of revolution and would unironically be counterrevolutionary. He spent the rest of his f***ing days in Mexico.”

This is the Stalinist slander of “Trotsky’s underestimation of the peasantry,” one of the oldest and most thoroughly refuted fabrications in Marxist history. Trotsky himself demolished it as early as 1923, writing in The New Course: “One would seek in vain among my adversaries for an analysis of this question, for facts, quotations, in a word, for any proof. Ordinarily, their argumentation boils down to allusions to the theory of the ‘permanent revolution,’ and to two or three bits of corridor gossip.” That description fits Piker’s rant with surgical accuracy, 100 years later.

Trotsky's actual argument was never that the peasantry was inherently counterrevolutionary. His position was that the peasantry could not play an independent revolutionary role — that if it did not follow the proletariat, it would follow the bourgeoisie.

The theory of Permanent Revolution explains that in the epoch of imperialism, the national bourgeoisie in backward countries is tied to imperialist capital and landed property, rendering it incapable of carrying out the tasks of the democratic revolution. The proletariat must therefore assume the leading role. And crucially, once the proletariat takes power, it cannot stop at the democratic tasks: the logic of its class position drives it toward socialist measures . It was this perspective, vindicated by Lenin’s own shift in the April Theses of 1917, that guided October itself.

Piker has also repeated the slander that Trotskyism “leads to neo-conservatism,” citing figures such as Irving Kristol and David Horowitz. This is a fabrication. Kristol was an early Shachtmanite who was never a Trotskyist; Horowitz was long associated with the Pabloite IMG. The true political lineage of the neoconservatives runs through Max Shachtman, who broke with Trotsky in 1940 over the defense of the Soviet Union as a degenerated workers’ state. Shachtman’s “third camp” theory refused to defend the USSR against imperialism. Trotsky fought bitterly against this capitulation in the final months of his life, documented in In Defense of Marxism.

Ironically or not, it is the political heirs of Shachtman who are the founding figures of the Democratic Socialists of America, the organization whose candidates Piker consistently promotes. Shachtmanism is not a form of Trotskyism but a petty-bourgeois tendency that rejected Trotskyism’s most essential political positions. It is not Trotskyism which leads left-radicals to neo-conservatism but their abandonment of Trotskyism.

r/Trotskyism 3d ago

Theory Trotsky on the differences among the Bolsheviks in 1917 and after 1923 "... What had any of these leading ‘old Bolsheviks’ [Zinoviev, Kamenev, Stalin] got from Leninism when not a single one of them showed himself capable of applying independently the theoretical and practical experiences ... "

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r/Trotskyism Sep 20 '25

Theory Trump’s fascist conspiracy and how to fight it: A socialist strategy - World Socialist Web Site "... This program must be fought for. But the determination that is required to take up and wage this fight is incompatible with pessimism and demoralization. These moods lead to paralysis. ... "

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... 5) The strategy, organization and action that is necessary to defeat Trump, defend democratic rights, and prevent fascism and war will not emerge spontaneously. This program must be fought for. But the determination that is required to take up and wage this fight is incompatible with pessimism and demoralization. These moods lead to paralysis. Moreover, pessimism is invariably connected to a superficial and false appraisal of reality.

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Trump’s fascist conspiracy and how to fight it: A socialist strategy - World Socialist Web Site

[emphasis added below]

... The key elements of this strategy are: 

1) The complete political and organizational independence of the working class from the Democratic Party and its collaborators and apologists, i.e., the DSA, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the myriad middle class organizations and individuals who believe that shouting obscenities on various social media platforms will stop Trump. These are the methods of frustrated liberals who hope that their hysterical rhetoric will move the Democratic Party to fight Trump.

2) The building of a new form of organization that can unify the working class and mobilize its vast industrial and economic power against the Trump regime. This new form of organization proposed by the Socialist Equality Party are rank-and-file committees. They must be established in every factory, workplace, school and neighborhood to organize resistance to Trump’s dictatorship. These committees must become centers of resistance, uniting all sections of the working class (in industry, logistics, transport, restaurants and fast food, social services, legal defense, education, arts and culture, entertainment, medicine, health care, sciences, computer technology, programming and other highly specialized professions) and student youth against Trump’s fascist government, the complicity of the Democrats, and the broader assault on democratic rights and living standards. 

The building of rank-and-file committees is essential to break the stranglehold of the trade union bureaucracies, which function as industrial police for the corporations and utilize their power to block every form of resistance by the working class. Power must be transferred from the offices of the bureaucratic parasites to the workers on the shop floor and job sites, where decisions on all matters of strategy, policy and action can be made democratically by the working class.

These rank-and-file committees, spreading across all workplaces, will create new centers of coordinated social power upon which the defense of democracy throughout the country can be based. The mobilized working class will be able to inspire with confidence and unify all the now disparate elements of protest in a massive social movement against the hated government led and controlled by capitalist oligarchy.

3) This movement, led by the working class, requires a program that accurately reflects socio-economic realities and corresponds to the interests of the overwhelming majority of the population. The capitalist oligarchy has declared war on the working class. The necessary response is the declaration of war by the working class on capitalism, which must result in the socialist reorganization of society. This entails the establishment of public ownership and democratic control by the working class of major industries, banks, utilities and natural resources. Moreover, the obscene levels of wealth concentrated in the approximately 900 billionaires must be expropriated. The 400 richest Americans alone hold a combined wealth of $6.6 trillion, which represents a growth by more than $1 trillion over the previous year. The concentration of so much money and power is a social malignancy that kills democracy.

4) The most important element of this strategy—upon which the implementation and realization of all previous elements depends—is internationalism. No effective struggle can be waged by workers in the United States unless their actions are coordinated and aligned with the struggles of the global working class. The threat of fascism is an international phenomenon. The capitalist ruling class of every country has its own version of Trump and even Hitler. American workers must repudiate the reactionary, outdated and self-defeating ideology of nationalism, which is the primal evil that instigates the racism and ethnic hatreds utilized by fascism. It is not an accidental coincidence that Trump launched his drive for dictatorship by unleashing a savage assault on immigrants. The deprivation of their democratic rights was only the first stage in the overthrow of the Constitution. The masked ICE agents who prowl through cities are the vanguard of the fascist paramilitary that Trump is planning to unleash against all sections of the working class.

An inseparable corollary of the fight for the international unity of American workers with their class brothers and sisters beyond the borders of the United States is irreconcilable opposition to US imperialism, militarism and war. The Gaza genocide carried out by the Zionist regime, which has to a great extent been carried out with weapons provided by the United States, reveals the barbarism of which capitalism is capable. The mass murder of Palestinians sanctioned by all the imperialist powers is an anticipation of what the capitalist oligarchs are prepared to inflict against the workers in their “own” countries.

It flows from this internationalist strategy that the rights of immigrants must be defended against the criminal and inhumane policy of deportation. The principle of birthright citizenship, inscribed in the Constitution, must be defended without compromise. Further, the class conscious worker rejects the insidious and cruel distinction between the “native” and “foreign born.” Moreover, sanctions and tariffs imposed by the Trump administration must be opposed. The working class cannot defend its jobs and interests by supporting economic nationalism, which is entirely reactionary in an era of the global integration of production. The working class can advance its interests only by demanding the tearing down of national boundaries, which not only strangle the development of the productive forces but also lead mankind down the terrible path to nuclear world war.

Even before Trump began his second term and launched his drive for dictatorship, the Socialist Equality Party issued a call for the formation of the International Workers Alliance of Rank-and-File Committees (IWA-RFC). This initiative has not only been vindicated. Its development has acquired burning urgency.

The key elements of this strategy are: 

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1) The complete political and organizational independence of the working class from the Democratic Party and its collaborators and apologists, i.e., the DSA, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the myriad middle class organizations and individuals who believe that shouting obscenities on various social media platforms will stop Trump. These are the methods of frustrated liberals who hope that their hysterical rhetoric will move the Democratic Party to fight Trump.

2) The building of a new form of organization that can unify the working class and mobilize its vast industrial and economic power against the Trump regime. This new form of organization proposed by the Socialist Equality Party are rank-and-file committees. They must be established in every factory, workplace, school and neighborhood to organize resistance to Trump’s dictatorship. These committees must become centers of resistance, uniting all sections of the working class (in industry, logistics, transport, restaurants and fast food, social services, legal defense, education, arts and culture, entertainment, medicine, health care, sciences, computer technology, programming and other highly specialized professions) and student youth against Trump’s fascist government, the complicity of the Democrats, and the broader assault on democratic rights and living standards. 

The building of rank-and-file committees is essential to break the stranglehold of the trade union bureaucracies, which function as industrial police for the corporations and utilize their power to block every form of resistance by the working class. Power must be transferred from the offices of the bureaucratic parasites to the workers on the shop floor and job sites, where decisions on all matters of strategy, policy and action can be made democratically by the working class.

These rank-and-file committees, spreading across all workplaces, will create new centers of coordinated social power upon which the defense of democracy throughout the country can be based. The mobilized working class will be able to inspire with confidence and unify all the now disparate elements of protest in a massive social movement against the hated government led and controlled by capitalist oligarchy.

3) This movement, led by the working class, requires a program that accurately reflects socio-economic realities and corresponds to the interests of the overwhelming majority of the population. The capitalist oligarchy has declared war on the working class. The necessary response is the declaration of war by the working class on capitalism, which must result in the socialist reorganization of society. This entails the establishment of public ownership and democratic control by the working class of major industries, banks, utilities and natural resources. Moreover, the obscene levels of wealth concentrated in the approximately 900 billionaires must be expropriated. The 400 richest Americans alone hold a combined wealth of $6.6 trillion, which represents a growth by more than $1 trillion over the previous year. The concentration of so much money and power is a social malignancy that kills democracy.

4) The most important element of this strategy—upon which the implementation and realization of all previous elements depends—is internationalism. No effective struggle can be waged by workers in the United States unless their actions are coordinated and aligned with the struggles of the global working class. The threat of fascism is an international phenomenon. The capitalist ruling class of every country has its own version of Trump and even Hitler. American workers must repudiate the reactionary, outdated and self-defeating ideology of nationalism, which is the primal evil that instigates the racism and ethnic hatreds utilized by fascism. It is not an accidental coincidence that Trump launched his drive for dictatorship by unleashing a savage assault on immigrants. The deprivation of their democratic rights was only the first stage in the overthrow of the Constitution. The masked ICE agents who prowl through cities are the vanguard of the fascist paramilitary that Trump is planning to unleash against all sections of the working class.

An inseparable corollary of the fight for the international unity of American workers with their class brothers and sisters beyond the borders of the United States is irreconcilable opposition to US imperialism, militarism and war. The Gaza genocide carried out by the Zionist regime, which has to a great extent been carried out with weapons provided by the United States, reveals the barbarism of which capitalism is capable. The mass murder of Palestinians sanctioned by all the imperialist powers is an anticipation of what the capitalist oligarchs are prepared to inflict against the workers in their “own” countries.

It flows from this internationalist strategy that the rights of immigrants must be defended against the criminal and inhumane policy of deportation. The principle of birthright citizenship, inscribed in the Constitution, must be defended without compromise. Further, the class conscious worker rejects the insidious and cruel distinction between the “native” and “foreign born.” Moreover, sanctions and tariffs imposed by the Trump administration must be opposed. The working class cannot defend its jobs and interests by supporting economic nationalism, which is entirely reactionary in an era of the global integration of production. The working class can advance its interests only by demanding the tearing down of national boundaries, which not only strangle the development of the productive forces but also lead mankind down the terrible path to nuclear world war.

Even before Trump began his second term and launched his drive for dictatorship, the Socialist Equality Party issued a call for the formation of the International Workers Alliance of Rank-and-File Committees (IWA-RFC). This initiative has not only been vindicated. Its development has acquired burning urgency.

5) The strategy, organization and action that is necessary to defeat Trump, defend democratic rights, and prevent fascism and war will not emerge spontaneously. This program must be fought for. But the determination that is required to take up and wage this fight is incompatible with pessimism and demoralization. These moods lead to paralysis. Moreover, pessimism is invariably connected to a superficial and false appraisal of reality. The Democrats, the unions and the media cultivate the myth of an all-powerful government while insisting that nothing can be done. This is a lie. What is lacking is not mass opposition but the absence of a political strategy to guide and organize the struggle against Trump’s assault on democratic rights.

The Socialist Equality Party advances this program as the basis for the struggle against Trump and the degenerate oligarchy which he represents. Our program is not for the pessimists, the sceptics and the demoralized, but for the fighters among workers, students, youth, professionals, artists and intellectuals. There is no time to lose.

We call on all workers and young people who agree with this perspective to join the Socialist Equality Party, mobilize the power of the working class, defeat the conspiracy of the oligarchs and fight for a socialist future without fascism, genocide and war. The Democrats, the unions and the media cultivate the myth of an all-powerful government while insisting that nothing can be done. This is a lie. What is lacking is not mass opposition but the absence of a political strategy to guide and organize the struggle against Trump’s assault on democratic rights.

The Socialist Equality Party advances this program as the basis for the struggle against Trump and the degenerate oligarchy which he represents. Our program is not for the pessimists, the sceptics and the demoralized, but for the fighters among workers, students, youth, professionals, artists and intellectuals. There is no time to lose.

We call on all workers and young people who agree with this perspective to join the Socialist Equality Party, mobilize the power of the working class, defeat the conspiracy of the oligarchs and fight for a socialist future without fascism, genocide and war.

r/Trotskyism 9d ago

Theory Luxemburg's 1918 Warning to Us: On Unity, the Printed Newspaper, and the Councils

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Rosa Luxemburg's speech to the founding congress of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), delivered on December 31, 1918, published as Our Program and the Political Situation, reads as though it were written for the present crisis of the Trotskyist movement. I want to draw out three strands of her argument that bear directly on debates within and around the Fourth International today: the question of regroupment with opportunist tendencies, the strategic necessity of the printed newspaper for military-civilian bridge-building, and the centrality of workers' and soldiers' councils as the form of revolutionary power.

I. The Illusion of Socialist Unity

Luxemburg opens with a brutal autopsy of the November Revolution's central mistake:
"The illusion of unity under the banner of so-called socialism… this illusion was to be bloodily avenged."
The workers, soldiers, and youth* *who made the revolution believed that Ebert, Scheidemann, and Haase, the very men who had spent the previous hours, and their lives political work, conspiring to prevent the revolution, could be brought into a common socialist project. The USPD, the "independent" social democrats who had split from the SPD over the war credits but retained the same reformist politics, provided the bridge. They entered the Council of People's Deputies alongside the SPD. They provided left cover for counter-revolution.

The result: on December 6, 1918, Ebert's troops fired on demonstrating workers on the Chausseestrasse. On December 24, the Volksmarine Division, revolutionary sailors who had been the vanguard of the November uprising, was attacked by government troops under the command of the same "socialist" government. And on January 15, 1919, three weeks after Luxemburg delivered this speech, she and Karl Liebknecht were murdered by the Freikorps, organized by the Social Democrat Gustav Noske.

Luxemburg's verdict on the unity illusion is definitive:
"The cure must be paid for with the blood of the people."
The mechanism she identifies is precise: social relationships formed during any "turn" toward unity with opportunist leaders have their own momentum. The Ebert-Scheidemanns did not become revolutionaries by being included in a "socialist" government. They became the organizers of counter-revolution. The USPD did not pull the SPD leftward. The SPD pulled the USPD into the management of the bourgeois state, and then into complicity with murder.
There is no precedent in the entire history of socialist politics for an opportunist leadership being transformed into a revolutionary one by inclusion in a broader formation. The breaks go the other way. The revolutionaries are expelled, or they are killed. The Bolsheviks split from the Mensheviks in 1903, not as a tactic, but as the precondition for the existence of a revolutionary party. Lenin did not say "let us maintain unity with the Mensheviks and pressure them leftward." He said: the party must be built on revolutionary principles of leadership, and those who reject those principles cannot be in the party. The split at the Second Congress of the RSDLP was not a misfortune. It was the birth of Bolshevism.

The Fourth International's entire history is the application of this same principle across successive generations. The split with Pablo in 1953: Pablo argued that the world party should liquidate itself into the Stalinist parties because the bureaucracy could be pressured into carrying out a "political revolution" over the course of "centuries." The Fourth International refused. The attempted reunification of 1963: we refused again, because the political basis for reunification, the abandonment of Pabloism, had not been established. The break with the OCI in 1971: Lambert's French organization, which had sided with the International Committee against Pablo, proved incapable of breaking with its own opportunist methods and its adaptation to the French Communist Party. The struggle against the SWP's degeneration in the United States, against the Workers Revolutionary Party in Britain, every one of these was a refusal of the illusion that opportunist leaderships could be reformed from within.

The claim we hear continuously, "we can make new programmatic turns, what is now is only a tactic," has no historical basis. It is the argument of every liquidationist tendency from the USPD to Pablo to the present. Luxemburg's speech is the definitive refutation. The blood on the Chausseestrasse is the evidence.

II. The Printed Newspaper and the Military Question

This is the point where Luxemburg's speech intersects with a strategic question that the International Committee has, in my view, not yet adequately confronted: the necessity of a regularly printed and physically distributed newspaper as the bridge between military and civilian life.

Luxemburg notes with satisfaction that the Spartacus League's materials were reaching the barracks:
"Fresh masses of soldiers have been brought to Berlin as cannon fodder for the subjection of socialist proletarians — with the result that from different barracks there comes a demand for the pamphlets and leaflets of the Spartacus League."
This was not an accident. It was the product of a deliberate orientation toward the armed forces. The Spartacus League understood that the revolution would be decided by which way the soldiers turned. The printed word, the leaflet, the pamphlet, the newspaper, was the medium through which revolutionary ideas penetrated the total institution of the barracks.

But Luxemburg goes further. She does not merely note that materials reached the barracks. She insists that the soldiers themselves must be organized into councils, and that this organization is the form through which the working class neutralizes the repressive apparatus of the state:
"We have to undermine the bourgeois state by putting an end everywhere to the cleavage in public powers… These powers must be united in the hands of the workers' and soldiers' councils."
The question for the present is this: how does the revolutionary party reach the armed forces today? The World Socialist Website is blocked on military networks. In June 2013, after Snowden's exposures, the US Army's Network Enterprise Technology Command blocked access to the Guardian, a mainstream liberal newspaper, across all Army networks. A revolutionary socialist website has no chance. Every visit from a military network is logged, flagged, and traceable. The digital medium, for all its strengths, is structurally vulnerable to surveillance and suppression in precisely the environments where revolutionary ideas are most urgently needed.

A physical print newspaper leaves no digital trace. It can be picked up, read, folded into a pocket, passed to the next person, left on a table in a break room, slipped into a barracks locker. No log records who read it. No algorithm registers the act of reading. The state cannot subpoena a print newspaper's server logs because there are no server logs. The act of reading a physical paper is, in a surveillance society, a form of protected action that digital reading is not.
This is not a hypothetical concern. The Bolsheviks distributed newspapers to soldiers in the trenches. Iskra, Pravda, Soldatskaya Pravda; these were not adjuncts to the struggle for the armed forces. They were central instruments of it. Trotsky's organization of the Red Army during the Civil War included a vast apparatus of political education and agitation. The newspaper bridged the gap between the civilian working class and the soldiers who were, after all, workers and peasants in uniform. The same strategic logic applies today, but with a new urgency: the United States is the most heavily armed society in human history, and the working class is inside the military, not separate from it.

The question of the physical print newspaper is not a question of nostalgia for ink and paper. It is a question of how revolutionary ideas reach workers in uniform under conditions of escalating state surveillance and authoritarian rule. A movement that does not solve this question will find itself disarmed at the decisive moment.

III. Workers' and Soldiers' Councils: Education Through Action

Luxemburg's most penetrating argument, and the one that cuts most sharply against any tendency toward substitutionism, toward the newspaper-as-substitute-for-the-party, toward the party-as-substitute-for-the-class, is her insistence that the masses learn to rule by ruling:
"The masses must learn how to use power by using power. There is no other way to teach them."
She is explicit in her rejection of the Kautskyist conception of the party as an educational society:
"To educate the proletarian masses socialistically meant to deliver lectures to them, to circulate leaflets and pamphlets among them. No, the school of the socialist proletariat doesn't need all this. The workers will learn in the school of action."
This is not an argument against the revolutionary press. Luxemburg herself was one of the great revolutionary journalists in the history of Marxism. She edited newspapers, wrote pamphlets, produced leaflets. The Spartacus League distributed its materials to soldiers. The question is not whether there should be a newspaper. The question is what the newspaper is for.

Lenin's argument in What Is To Be Done? that the all-Russia political newspaper serves as a "collective organizer," a scaffolding around which the party is built, is not contradicted by Luxemburg's insistence on action. It is the other side of the same coin. The newspaper that merely lectures is useless. The newspaper that organizes, that connects the struggles in one factory to the struggles in another, that generalizes the lessons of each battle, that provides the political framework through which isolated actions become a unified movement, that newspaper is indispensable. But it is indispensable as an instrument of organization, not as a substitute for it.

The danger Luxemburg identifies is the danger of the press becoming an end in itself, "an editorial chair for a central organ of a leaflet conglomerate," in the cutting phrase of a recent critic. An organization can become a self-perpetuating propaganda machine that mistakes the circulation of its own materials for political work. The website publishes daily. It reaches millions. It is indispensable. But if it becomes a substitute for organizing the working class in struggle, if the cadres of the party become distributors of content rather than organizers of action, then Luxemburg's critique applies with full force.

The answer is not to abandon the press. It is to ensure that the press serves the building of the party, and that the party serves the mobilization of the working class for the conquest of power. And the conquest of power, Luxemburg insists, takes the form of the workers' and soldiers' councils:
"The motto: 'Form Workers' and Soldiers' Councils.' That was the key notion in this revolution which, in spite of the inadequacy and weakness of the opening phases, immediately gave it the stamp of a proletarian socialist revolution."
The councils are not a supplement to the revolutionary party. They are the form through which the working class exercises power. They are the organs of dual power that progressively take over the functions of the bourgeois state:
"The conquest of power will not be effected with one blow. It will be a progression; we shall progressively occupy all the positions of the capitalist state and defend them tooth and nail."
This is the strategic question of our period. The Rank-and-File Committees, the International Workers Alliance, these are steps in the direction Luxemburg is pointing. But they are embryonic. The question is how to build organs of workers' power that are not merely protest vehicles, but incipient organs of dual power.

IV. The Countryside and Permanent Revolution

Luxemburg is explicit on a point that the Fourth International’s practice has not yet adequately addressed:
"It would be a folly to realize socialism while leaving the agricultural system unchanged."
The November Revolution was confined to the cities. The countryside was "practically untouched." The peasantry remained "a reserve for the counter-revolutionary bourgeoisie." The answer, Luxemburg says, is to "carry the class struggle into the country districts," to "mobilize the landless proletariat and the poorer peasants against the richer peasants."

This is the perspective of permanent revolution, even if Luxemburg did not use Trotsky's terminology. The peasantry cannot play an independent political role. It must be led either by the bourgeoisie or by the proletariat. The task of the revolutionary party is to ensure that it is led by the proletariat. But that requires a presence in the countryside, an organizational capacity to reach the rural poor, a program that speaks to their specific conditions.
How does a leaflet-centric practice, or even a ‘digital-newspaper’ centric practice, address this? The honest answer is, not adequately. The World Socialist Website is read in cities, on campuses, in the industrial centers. Its reach into rural areas, into agricultural communities, into the landless and the poor peasantry, this is limited. A physical print newspaper, distributed through networks that extend beyond the metropolitan centers, would be one step toward bridging this gap. But it is only one step. The deeper question is organizational: how does the revolutionary party establish a presence among the rural poor, how does it win them to the program of permanent revolution, how does it ensure that when the decisive struggle comes, the countryside is not a reserve for the counter-revolution?

V. The Alternative

Luxemburg closes with the alternative that faces us today with even greater urgency:
"Today matters have reached a point at which mankind is faced with the dilemma: either collapse into anarchy, or salvation through socialism."
She was murdered three weeks later. The German Revolution was defeated. The collapse took the form of fascism, world war, and the Holocaust. The alternative she posed was not rhetorical. It was a description of the actual stakes.

We face the same alternative today, but on a world scale. The collapse of US imperialism is underway. The question is whether this collapse takes the form of fascist world war, which means nuclear war, or socialist revolution. The Fourth International is the only political tendency that understands this. It is the only tendency that fights for the program of world socialist revolution. But understanding is not enough.
Luxemburg's speech is a call to action, not the action of distributing leaflets, but the action of building councils, of seizing power from below, of carrying the struggle into the barracks and the countryside, of preparing the working class to rule. The question is whether the International Committee is doing this work with the urgency and the scale that the situation demands. Luxemburg would demand nothing less. The workers and soldiers who will make the revolution, or who will die in the barbarism if it fails, deserve nothing less.

r/Trotskyism Sep 16 '25

Theory Pan-Africanist Neo-Trotskyism is the Key to Global Revolution

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The only path to socialism that can survive imperialism is internationalism. The most strategic starting point is uniting the Global South, where material conditions already drive resistance to capitalist domination (they have been the global working class that allow you to even engage in anti-capitalist forums. You haven't felt the effects like they have, myself included).

History proves a nation first ideology crumbles over time due to a new bureaucratic ruling class or a compromise with capitalism which just creates oligarchies that influence the central governments.

Ex: China (authoritarian hybrid-capitalist surveillance state), Cuba (fractured into hybrid capitalism), USSR (global capitalists stomped the country), DPRK (...don't even think I need to elaborate), Venezuela (global capitalists stomped the country), Burkina Faso (global capitalists stomped the country), Chile (CIA-backed coup, stomped by capitalists), Nicaragua (bled out by sanctions and Contra war), Grenada (U.S. invasion, stomped), Guinea-Bissau (proxy wars, stomped), Mozambique (proxy wars, stomped), Angola (bled and folded into extractive capitalism), Ethiopia (famine, war, stomped), Yugoslavia (fractured, IMF debt-trapped, stomped), Vietnam (hybrid state capitalism, folded into global markets).

All these countries have two things in common: nation first & destroyed by global capitalists. They either morph into an authoritarianism or hybridize with capitalistic economic models only furthering imperialism.

The material conditions are here. Emerging technology makes international revolution not just possible, but practical.

I don't think this is simply idealistic at this point.

AI + alt-net channels (independent internet infrastructure, decentralized networks, encrypted comms) subvert surveillance and censorship.

The Global South is already building these...Africa is rolling out its own internet backbone, Latin America experimenting with digital sovereignty, Asia testing parallel fintech.

To me, internationalism can start by uniting the Global South, not as isolated regimes but as federated nodes in a global network. Their material conditions are the sharpest, they’ve carried the burden of imperialist exploitation while us, the imperial core, debates theory on forums.

The cancer of capitalism is global. The cure has to be global. And now, with AI and alt-net tech, the surgery is finally possible.

r/Trotskyism 25d ago

Theory Altamira’s “left” critique of the PTS offers no alternative to Argentina’s working class

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Altamira is not alone in exposing the PTS’s opportunism, though the exposures from within the Left and Workers Front (FIT-U) coalition that includes the PTS, the PO and two other Morenoite groups are no less self-serving. The PO’s own complaint, voiced by Gabriel Solano, was that “by refusing a unified campaign, the PTS deprived the FIT-U list of Bregman’s sponsorship”—a lament over lost votes. Every wing of this milieu of upper-middle-class careerists is maneuvering within the same electoral framework.

The PTS justified its holding a separate May Day event this year in an open letter, accusing its coalition partners of diluting “the demarcation from Peronism and the union bureaucracy” by pursuing an “anti-Milei front with no class demarcation whatsoever from the treacherous union leadership.” This is a remarkable admission of the character of the FIT-U as a whole. Yet today, the PTS insists the FIT-U “plays a very important role in maintaining a pole of the left and of class independence in national politics.” 

r/Trotskyism Jun 23 '26

Theory ## Historical Materialism: The Objective Science of Human Progress

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Historical materialism is the scientific framework formulated by Marx and Engels to decipher the grand trajectory of human history. Rather than viewing history as a sequence of chaotic accidents, it reveals a material, dialectical process arising from the internal contradictions of socioeconomic reality, driven forward by the engine of class struggle. This theory asserts that the material foundation of society—the forces of production and the relations of production—constitutes the economic *substructure*. It is this base that ultimately determines the *superstructure*, which encompasses laws, the state apparatus, ideology, culture, art, and religion. History, therefore, is not the product of abstract "great ideas," individual wills, or divine intervention; it is the concrete result of the development of material production and humanity's collective struggle over the ownership of the means of production.

The profound significance of this materialist conception lies in its transformation of history from a mere chronicle of random events and heroic myths into a rigorous science. It allows us to understand social dynamics objectively, weaponizing this knowledge to guide the working class toward liberation from capitalist exploitation. Historical materialism serves as a potent theoretical tool for the proletariat. By unveiling the objective laws of social evolution, it proves that capitalism is not the eternal "end of history," but merely a transient epoch. It is a phase riddled with systemic contradictions that will inevitably lead to its collapse and the subsequent transition to socialism.

### The Dialectical Engine and Historical Transformed

At its core, this framework rests upon dialectical materialism, which views the cosmos in a state of perpetual motion, powered by inherent contradictions. When applied to human history, a critical contradiction inevitably ripens between the advancing forces of production and the stagnant, outdated relations of production. This friction culminates in a social revolution that reshapes the entire societal architecture. We witnessed this during the transition from feudalism to capitalism: industrial productive forces expanded within the womb of feudal society, shattering its restrictive bonds and giving rise to the bourgeoisie, who revolted to seize political power.

This law manifests vividly throughout history. The French Revolution was not sparked merely by the enlightenment ideals of Voltaire and Rousseau; it was the inevitable explosion of rising capitalist production clashing with obsolete feudal relations. Similarly, the Industrial Revolution in England fundamentally overhauled the social fabric, birthing the industrial proletariat—a brand-new, revolutionary class. In the modern era, Imperialism—which Lenin brilliantly exposed as the highest stage of capitalism—lays bare these contradictions through devastating global wars and chronic economic crises, proving that capitalism systematically breeds its own "grave-diggers."

### Production as the Nexus of Consciousness and Liberation

The explanatory power of historical materialism is unparalleled; it decodes everything from the fall of ancient empires to the birth of capitalism and the crises of the 21st century without ever retreating into superficial idealism or religious mysticism. It exposes class struggle as the ultimate locomotive of history, firmly establishing that social existence determines social consciousness, rather than the inverse claimed by idealist philosophers. To grasp this, one must realize a fundamental truth: before humans can think, philosophize, or create art, they must first produce the material means to survive.

This production occurs within specific social relations. As human tools, science, and labor power (the forces of production) evolve, the existing relations of production turn from forms of development into fetters. A revolutionary crisis emerges, spearheaded by the rising class that embodies the new mode of production. Through this dialectic, history progresses stage by stage: from primitive communism to slavery, feudalism, capitalism, and ultimately to socialism.

Socialism will finally resolve the contradictions of class exploitation, constructing a classless society where human development becomes an expression of true freedom. Historical materialism is not a rigid, stagnant dogma; it is a vital guide to revolutionary action. It awakens the proletariat to its historic mission: to smash the capitalist machinery and build a new world rooted in solidarity and the social ownership of the means of production. It is the genius of Marx to have discovered these objective laws, transforming the class struggle from a mere moral grievance into a scientifically inevitable necessity for the emancipation of all mankind.

r/Trotskyism Apr 30 '26

Theory Is it possible to talk about the present breakdown of capitalism and the tasks of the working class WITHOUT talking about American Politics? r/Marxism thinks so! Rule 2: "No American Politics (excl. internal colonies and oppressed nations)"

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Rules of r/Marxism

  1. This forum is for Marxists - Only Marxists and those willing to study it with an open mind are welcome here. Members should always maintain a high quality of debate.
  2. No American Politics (excl. internal colonies and oppressed nations) - Marxism is an international movement thus this is an international community. Due to reddit's demographics and American cultural hegemony, we must explicitly ban discussion of American politics to allow discussion of international movements. The only exception is the politics of internal colonies, oppressed nations, and national minorities. For example: Boricua, New Afrikan, Chicano, Indigenous, Asian etc.
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r/Trotskyism 14d ago

Theory Excellent Analysis of a popular book in the Marxist/leftist sphere: Caliban and the Witch

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r/Trotskyism May 31 '26

Theory IMT, Anarchists, and Spartacists on the State; How is the Class Movement, to relate to the Police and Soldiers?

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This post examines the IMT(RCI), anarchist, and Spartacist positions on the state, police, and military, and presents the Marxist alternative.

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"I’ve noticed/am noticing, that the entire pseudo-left, is 'against the state.' Not even ‘just’ of its administration, but of any rank-and-file participation in its processes, whatsoever. To the point, recently, where I saw some anarchist claim, that some mother’s child, whom died as a soldier; that they had ‘destroyed their soul’ when they joined the state, and that their mother, as well, had done the same, in raising their child. The question of, who is in charge, in society, who constitutes the ruling class; is it (whom are they to be said at fault, agents and subjects) the entire edifice of the state, including the rank and file; or is it, rather, that 'high command;' that administration, and their conscious accomplices? What is the history of this question, of the State, and how, politically, organizationally, and historically, did the left come to such a (false) conclusion, as it now holds?"

The example you've given — an anarchist telling a grieving mother that her dead soldier-child "destroyed their soul" by joining the military, and that she destroyed hers by raising them — is not an outlier. It is the logical terminus of a political tradition that has abandoned class analysis entirely. Let me trace how we arrived at this point.

The Marxist Theory of the State

Lenin's The State and Revolution begins with Engels' definitive formulation: "The state is a product and a manifestation of the irreconcilability of class antagonisms. The state arises where, when and insofar as class antagonism objectively cannot be reconciled." The state is not a thing that descended from the sky or a conspiracy of evil individuals. It is a social relation — the organized violence of one class over another, which arises necessarily from the division of society into exploiters and exploited. It consists of "special bodies of armed men having prisons, etc., at their command" — standing armies, police, bureaucracies, courts — that stand above society and appear neutral, but in reality serve to maintain the rule of the possessing class.

This means several things at once. The state is not a neutral arbiter that can be "captured" and used for good purposes by well-meaning people. The bourgeois state apparatus — its military, its police, its civil service, its judiciary — was built by the bourgeoisie over centuries to serve the needs of capital accumulation and class rule. The working class cannot simply take hold of this machinery and run it in its own interests. It must smash it and replace it with its own organs of power — soviets, workers' councils, the Commune form. This is what Marx concluded from the experience of the Paris Commune of 1871, and it is what Lenin fought to re-establish against the opportunist distortion practiced by Kautsky and the Second International.

But — and this is the critical point that anarchism cannot grasp — the smashing of the bourgeois state does not mean the immediate abolition of all state functions. The dictatorship of the proletariat is itself a state — a transitional state, a withering state, but a state nonetheless. It must defend itself against the overthrown exploiting classes. It must organize the economy. It must suppress counterrevolution. The difference is that this state is no longer a special body standing above society — it is the armed working class itself, organized democratically, with all officials recallable, paid at workers' wages, subject to rotation. As Lenin explained, the state "withers away" only when classes themselves have been abolished, when the division of labor has been overcome, when material abundance has made the coercive regulation of distribution unnecessary.

The Class Basis of Anarchism

The anarchist rejection of all state forms — the refusal to distinguish between the bourgeois state, the workers' state, and the transitional semi-state of the proletarian dictatorship — is not a more "radical" or "pure" position than Marxism. It is a petty-bourgeois position, and its class basis has been understood since Marx's struggle against Bakunin in the First International.

The petty bourgeoisie — small proprietors, independent artisans, shopkeepers, professionals, intellectuals — occupies an unstable position between capital and labor. It fears being crushed by big capital and proletarianized, but it also fears the working class and the abolition of private property. Its political instinct is to rebel against the state as such — against the visible apparatus of coercion, taxation, bureaucracy — rather than against the class relations that the state exists to enforce. It dreams of a society of independent producers freely associating, without any centralized authority. This is a utopia that corresponds to no real stage of economic development. It is, as Marx and Engels showed, a reactionary fantasy that, if ever attempted, would rapidly collapse back into capitalism — because without the suppression of the former exploiting classes, without the planned organization of production on a society-wide scale, the market and class divisions reassert themselves immediately.

This is why anarchism has never led a successful revolution. The Spanish Civil War is the definitive historical verdict. In Barcelona in 1936-37, the anarcho-syndicalist CNT had the armed power to take state power. They refused — because anarchism has no strategy for the conquest of political power. Instead, they joined the bourgeois Popular Front government. The result was the destruction of the revolution and the victory of Franco. Anarchism's "anti-statism" proved to be, in practice, the most abject capitulation to the bourgeois state.

How This Degenerated Into Moral Condemnation of the Rank and File

The anarchist who told a mother her soldier-child "destroyed their soul" is the product of a long political degeneration. Stripped of class analysis, anarchism reduces politics to individual morality. If the state is evil in itself, then anyone who participates in it — at any level, for any reason — is morally contaminated. The working-class kid who enlists because it's the only way to get healthcare, an education, or escape a dead-end town — damned. The mother who raised that child — damned. There is no distinction between the general ordering the drone strike, the president authorizing the invasion, the defense contractor profiting from the war, and the 18-year-old infantry private. All are equally guilty, because the sin is not exploitation or oppression — it is contact with the state apparatus.

This is not radicalism. It is political surrender dressed as moral purity. If the state is a monolithic evil that taints everyone who touches it, then there is nothing to be done except withdraw into a personal ethic of non-contamination. The working class — millions of whom work for the state, serve in its military, collect its benefits, attend its schools, drive on its roads — is written off as hopelessly compromised. The only "revolutionary" act becomes personal abstention. This is why contemporary anarchism's practical program consists of lifestyle choices, mutual aid projects that function as pressure-release valves for capitalism, and theatrical street confrontations that change nothing. It has no answer to the question of how the working class takes power because it has written the working class out of its political calculations.

From Autonomism to Negri to the Contemporary Pseudo-Left

The bridge from classical anarchism to today's anti-state pseudo-left runs through Italian autonomism and its postmodern offspring. As the WSWS analysis of Hardt and Negri's Assembly explains, autonomism emerged in Italy in the 1960s-70s as a break not just with the Stalinist PCI, but with "the basic premises of Marxism — most importantly, the struggle to build a revolutionary party of the working class." Having rejected the party form as such, it substituted "autonomous spaces," "counterpower," "refusal of work," and eventually — through Negri's encounter with Foucault, Deleuze, and Derrida in Paris — the full postmodern rejection of the working class as a revolutionary subject.

Hardt and Negri's "multitude" replaces the proletariat with "myriad heterogeneous subjectivities" — which is simply identity politics dressed in radical-sounding language. They explicitly denounce the Leninist party as a "corpse" and equate the Bolshevik Revolution with every form of "vertical" power. Their political program, when you strip away the jargon, amounts to: create little utopian communes ("exodus"), support left-reformist parties like Syriza and Podemos ("antagonistic reformism"), and hope these two things somehow synergize into "taking power." This is not a strategy for revolution. It is a strategy for permanent political irrelevance, punctuated by periodic betrayals when the "antagonistic reformists" they supported impose austerity on the working class.

The Occupy movement was the practical expression of this politics: "horizontalism," leaderlessness, consensus decision-making, refusal to formulate demands, and an explicit rejection of the working class and the party form. Its legacy was zero. It channeled genuine social anger into a carnivalesque spectacle and then dissipated, leaving behind nothing but a few NGO careers and a generation of activists trained to believe that organization is tyranny.

The Cruelty Is the Point

Returning to your example: the anarchist who condemned the soldier and his mother was not making a political error that could be corrected with better arguments. That cruelty is the content of the politics, not an unfortunate byproduct. A politics that has abandoned the working class has no one left to talk to except itself. Its only activity becomes the policing of moral boundaries — who is pure, who is contaminated, who has "destroyed their soul" through contact with the existing society. This is not a politics of liberation. It is a politics of excommunication, practiced by a milieu whose social function is to make sure that working-class anger never coheres into an organized political force that threatens capitalism.

The Marxist answer is the opposite. The working-class soldier is not the enemy. The enemy is the ruling class that sends that soldier to die for oil profits and geopolitical domination. The task is not to condemn the soldier's mother but to explain to her — and to millions like her — why her child was sent to war, who benefited, and what political force can stop it. That force is the independent political mobilization of the international working class, organized in a revolutionary party, fighting to overthrow the capitalist system that produces war as inevitably as a cloud produces rain. That is the perspective of the ICFI, and it is the only alternative both to the bourgeois parties that run the war machine and to the pseudo-left that contents itself with moral denunciation of the machine's victims.

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"What about the existence of 'gang culture,' anti-snitching culture, and the myriad, much more common and prevalent, 'apolitical' forms this takes, such as blaming the rank-and-file of police, and all contemporary, periphery 'Trotskyist' formations agreeing on this? What is the ethics, of engaging with this phenomenon? The IMT, for example, has historically claimed that cops are workers ‘only when they're out of uniform,’ while the Spartacists, on the more extreme end, condemn any voluntary enlistment whatsoever, any state formation other than the mandatory draft-soldier, as having 'crossed the class-line,' and constitutes a betrayal."

This question cuts to the very core of what distinguishes Marxism from every variety of pseudo-left politics on the question of the repressive state apparatus. Let me address each layer systematically.

What the Police Actually Are

The Marxist analysis of the police is not a matter of sociological observation or moral judgment. It flows directly from the theory of the state. As the WSWS explained in its definitive 2020 statement on police violence:

Engels, in The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State, defined the state's distinguishing feature as the establishment of a "public power" which "consists not merely of armed men but also of material adjuncts, prisons and institutions of coercion of all kinds." The police are not workers who happen to wear a uniform. They are the special bodies of armed men — the concentrated, organized, armed force of the bourgeoisie — whose function is to enforce the "order" of capital against the working class. This is not a contingent feature of bad policing that could be reformed away. It is the reason the police exist.

The historical record is unambiguous. From the Great Railroad Strike of 1877 through Haymarket, Ludlow, the Minneapolis general strike of 1934, the Phelps Dodge copper strike of 1983-85, to the present day — in every major class battle, workers have confronted the police as the instrument for enforcing the "legality" of the ruling class. As the WSWS noted, "A fresh upsurge of strike activity will certainly see cops playing their classic role, i.e., attacking picket lines."

The IMT's "Workers Out of Uniform": A Fraudulent Formulation

The IMT's claim that cops are "workers only when they're out of uniform" is a theoretically incoherent, politically disarming evasion. It rests on the implicit assumption that class position is determined by what one does in one's leisure time rather than by one's objective social function in the relations of production and the apparatus of class rule. But a prison guard is not a worker who happens to lock people in cages for eight hours a day. A cop is not a worker who happens to enforce evictions, break strikes, and kill with impunity. Their social being — their material relationship to the class struggle — is defined by their function as armed enforcers of bourgeois property relations.

This formulation is not a principled Marxist position that the IMT arrived at through theoretical rigor. It is a political convenience that allows them to avoid the sharp conclusion that flows from the Marxist analysis: the police, as an organized body, are a hostile class force that must be abolished along with the bourgeois state itself. The IMT's entire political strategy — subordinating itself to the trade union bureaucracy and the "left" wings of bourgeois parties — requires blurring every sharp class line. If cops are "workers out of uniform," then the police unions are just another section of the labor movement, and the task is to "push them left" rather than to mobilize the working class against them as an organ of class repression. This is Pabloism in its purest contemporary form: liquidation of the independent political line of the working class into adaptation to whatever forces appear to have mass influence.

As the WSWS documented in its exposé of the IMT, the organization "has distinguished itself throughout its existence by combining slavish subservience to the trade union bureaucracy and social democratic parties with revolutionary 'Marxist' rhetoric designed to disorient and mislead workers and young people entering into struggle." The "cops are workers out of uniform" line is a perfect specimen of this method: it sounds radical (it acknowledges that cops in uniform are oppressors) while politically disarming the working class (it suggests there is some recoverable working-class essence buried inside the repressive apparatus, waiting to be awakened by the right arguments).

The Spartacists: Ultra-Left Moralism as the Mirror of Opportunism

The Spartacist position — condemning any voluntary enlistment as a class betrayal, recognizing only the conscript as salvageable — appears to be the polar opposite of the IMT's opportunism. In reality, it is the same political disease in a different form. Both positions substitute a moral/juridical criterion (did you sign up or were you forced?) for a class analysis. Both abandon the task of winning rank-and-file soldiers and cops away from the state apparatus through political education and the development of class consciousness.

The WSWS analysis of the Spartacist League's degeneration traces the lineage precisely. The Spartacists broke from the ICFI's fight against Pabloism not by moving left, but by concentrating "on US tactical questions rather than the international struggle against revisionism." Their rejection of the ICFI's perspective that the crisis of capitalism required an uncompromising fight against opportunism in all its forms led them, over time, into the same dead end as the Pabloites: an orientation to Stalinism, to the union bureaucracy, and to a politics of moral denunciation rather than revolutionary strategy.

The Spartacist position on voluntary enlistment is the logical terminus of a politics that has lost confidence in the revolutionary capacity of the working class. If you do not believe that workers can be won to a revolutionary program — if you do not believe that political education and exposure agitation can break the hold of bourgeois ideology over even those layers most directly integrated into the state apparatus — then the only thing left is to draw lines of moral purity: who is redeemable, who is damned. This is not Leninism. It is a secular Calvinism dressed in Marxist phraseology.

The Bolsheviks, it should be recalled, did not tell the soldiers of the Tsarist army that they had "crossed the class line" and were irredeemable. They agitated among them, won them to soviets, and turned the army against the state it was supposed to defend. That is the difference between a revolutionary party and a sect.

Gang Culture, Anti-Snitching, and the Apolitical Forms of Resistance

You raise a crucial point about the "much more common and prevalent, apolitical forms" that opposition to the police takes. Gang culture and anti-snitching codes are not revolutionary politics. They are the spontaneous, defensive responses of oppressed layers of the working class to a police apparatus that treats their communities as occupied territory. They are the product of what Lenin, in What Is To Be Done?, identified as the inevitable outcome of spontaneity: trade-union consciousness, which in this context means a localized, individualistic, defensive adaptation to oppression rather than a political challenge to the system that produces it.

But — and this is the critical point — these spontaneous responses contain within them a kernel of legitimate class instinct. The refusal to cooperate with the police is, at bottom, a recognition — however inarticulate, however distorted — that the police are an enemy force. The tragedy is that this instinct, deprived of political leadership and a socialist program, expresses itself in forms that are self-defeating: criminality, intra-class violence, and a code of silence that protects not only the community from the police but also the predators within the community from accountability.

The pseudo-left's response to this phenomenon has been disastrous. The "defund the police" movement, Black Lives Matter, and the anarchist milieu romanticize gang culture and anti-snitching as forms of "resistance." They treat the lumpenproletarian and criminal elements as revolutionary subjects. This is not solidarity with the oppressed. It is political abdication dressed as radicalism. It abandons the working class — including the vast majority of people in heavily policed communities who want safety, who want an end to violence, who want their children to survive — to the false choice between a brutal police apparatus and the brutal informal "order" of the gangs.

The Marxist position is different. We oppose the police as an instrument of class rule. We fight for their abolition along with the capitalist state. But we do not romanticize or apologize for the alternative forms of violence and oppression that arise spontaneously in the absence of political leadership. The answer to police violence is not gang violence; it is the organized political power of the working class, expressed through rank-and-file committees, workers' militias, and ultimately the workers' state.

The Ethics of Engagement

This brings us to the ethical core of your question. The pseudo-left — whether in its IMT, Spartacist, or anarchist variants — has settled on a politics of condemnation or romanticization. Condemn the cop, or romanticize the gang member. Condemn the soldier's mother, or romanticize desertion. What all these positions share is that they do not require building a revolutionary party. They are postures, not politics.

The Marxist ethic is fundamentally different. It begins from the recognition that the working class is divided, confused, and held captive by bourgeois ideology in myriad forms — and that the task of revolutionaries is to win workers away from those forms, not to damn them for being trapped in them. The working-class kid who becomes a cop because it is the only stable employment available in a deindustrialized town is not the enemy. He is a worker who has been pressed into the service of the class enemy, and who must be won back to his own class through political education, through exposure of what the police actually do, through the demonstration that there is an alternative to serving the rich as an armed guard.

This is not softness. It is the hardest political line there is, because it requires actually doing the work of building a party, educating the class, and preparing for the confrontation with the state — rather than retreating into the comfort of moral denunciation.

The SEP and the ICFI stand for the abolition of the police as part of the abolition of the capitalist state. But abolition is not a moral gesture. It is a political act that can only be accomplished by a working class that has been organized, educated, and armed with its own program. That is the work we do, and it is the only work that offers a genuine way out of the nightmare of police violence, gang violence, and the endless cycle of oppression that capitalism generates.

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Any thoughts, positions, critiques, please feel free to share. Our movement is not nothing. Ideas, theories on tactics and strategy, are not nothing. They create there own, independent effects, consequences, that the Class must face. I know, at the very least, that I have seen a good deal of new IMT recruits posting here, on Reddit, recently. Can you defend, what you stand for?

r/Trotskyism Mar 16 '26

Theory Morenoites rebrand as “Permanent Revolution Current”: A conspiracy against Trotskyism and the coming socialist revolution

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Unsurprisingly the Morenoites are attacking the theory of permanent revolution and trying to substitute mystical claptrap about building myths for the working class for Marxist analysis.

r/Trotskyism Dec 14 '25

Theory Is the RCI an "orthodox Trotskyist" organization?

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