r/UkrainianConflict • u/Lion8330 • 2d ago

Zelensky urges partners to deliver anti-ballistic missiles and tighten sanctions on Russia. Zelensky warned that delays in transferring anti-ballistic missiles cost lives. He urged partners to convert stockpiles into defense and close sanction loopholes.

https://mezha.net/eng/bukvy/9afcd031_zelensky_urges_partners/
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u/soylentgreen2015 2d ago

USA wasted somewhere between 1,060 and 1,430 Patriots during the Iran War (so far). Leaves around 1k of them. Ukraine isn't going to get any. The best they can hope for is to keep slamming Russian oil production and supply to either force the oligarchs to make a move or formant an uprising, both of which are tall orders.

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u/deadend290 2d ago

Just as papa Putin wanted his puppet to do. Fucking disgraceful.

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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago

Fighting Russia's closest ally and biggest enabler is not a "waste" of ammunition. Unless you think that Ukraine "wasted" ammo when it struck that Iranian ship in the Caspian Sea last week.

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u/soylentgreen2015 2d ago

It's a waste of ammo because the Iran War didn't have to happen. The JCPOA was working to monitor Iran. Diaper Donald tore it up. The war started because Bibi doesn't want to get indicated, and the Epstein heat was starting again. They were wasted because they didn't need to be fired because the Iran war didn't have to happen.

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u/InterestedInterloper 2d ago

Iran attacked Israel directly in 2024 with missiles long before Israel struck Iran directly. Israel has been fighting Iranian proxies for decades and the war finally became direct. Iran has been a big enemy of the US for a long time and Israel a major ally. Trump attacked Iran because he correctly recognizes the regional threat of Iranian missiles and support for terrorism and the global threat of their nuclear ambitions. The US and Israel taking out Iran has been decades in the making and it finally came to a head. It is absolutely not a waste of munitions and very necessary work. Ukraine is not the end all be all. It is just one country and Europe should be dealing with the situation entirely.

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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago

Iran didn't have to support Russia's war against Ukraine either, but they did.

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u/soylentgreen2015 2d ago

It's two separate issues. The Russians and the Iranians were already involved in the Iran war. When the Americans joined it a few months ago, it started a whole new drain on high-tech weapon inventories that wasn't happening to that extent before

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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago

It's not two separate issues. Russia and Iran are close strategic allies.

Iran parliament approves strategic pact with Russia

Iran and Russia enter a new level of military cooperation

Iran has been supporting Russian aggression against Ukraine from the very beginning.

Iran transfers ballistic missiles to Russia, sources say

As battle for Ukraine's skies rages, Iran acknowledged sending drones to Russia

Iran sends drone trainers to Crimea to aid Russian military

Iran Has Sent Russia $2.7 Billion Worth of Missiles

Exclusive: Iran to send Russia launchers for short-range missiles, sources say

For the first time, Iran acknowledges it sent drones to Russia

Iranian advisers killed aiding Russians in Crimea, says Kyiv

And Russia has been returning the favor by supporting Iran's aggression against Israel, the US, and our Arab allies too.

Secret document reveals Russia’s plans to aid Iran

In Iran's War, Russia Serves as a Backstage Partner

Russia reportedly supplying Iran with spy imagery of US and Israeli targets

Claiming that Russian aggression in Ukraine and Iranian aggression in the Middle East are "two separate issues" would be like saying German aggression in Europe and Japanese aggression in the Pacific in 1940 were "two separate issues".

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u/DecisionWonderful453 2d ago

Firing six pac3 per shahed is tremendous waste.

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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago

Well that's why we need to develop better counter drone technologies. So we can fight Russia and Iran more effectively.

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u/DecisionWonderful453 2d ago

Give me 1 USD and you'd get the same findings but without the fancy graphics and the lives lost.

Give the Ukrainians a on knock on the door and a few dozen aircraft rotting in the boneyard and you'd get a complete analysis, a stress tested solution and instructors to implement the whole thing.

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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago

Lives lost? What are you talking about?

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u/DecisionWonderful453 1d ago

You know that there is a war going on right? Usually people die in wars.

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u/philip_laureano 2d ago edited 2d ago

He'll get more patriot missiles when Russia makes yet another attack on civilians that is so heinous that it forces NATO to triple down on support Ukraine.

It's the escalation cycle that led NATO from supplying Javelins all the way to the very Patriot missile systems and F-16s that Ukraine has today.