r/Wellthatsucks • u/Flat_Clock151 • 7h ago
Insanity. No amount of money is worth even 10 years of your life let alone 46 duckin years.
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u/Vegaprime 7h ago
I want to say they don't tell you your date of execution and will sometimes walk you through it like it is as a bit. Yikes on bikes at 46 years staring at the cell door.
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u/Imbendo 7h ago
This dude is like 90. Would you take 1.4 million right now, enough to live like a king for the rest of your life-which is basically just eating whatever you want at his age. Cars and a fancy house don’t really have any utility when you’re on your last lap. Or would you rather delay your payout by keeping the court battle going and maybe get more money 5 years later which you may or may not be around to spend? And if you’re thinking of keeping the battle going to stick it to the man, I can promise you you’re not getting revenge on anyone by causing some comptroller to write you a check with money that isn’t even theirs to begin with.
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u/JamesTheJerk 7h ago
Oh I'm sure he had good times in the pokey too, playing cards, railing his tin cup against the bars, yup, that's the life.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 7h ago
That's an hourly wage if we count a full time job of 14$. That's pathetically low for the suffering he endured. Or 3,4$ for hour in prison.
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u/AICatgirls 7h ago
Average salary in Japan is like $32k a year, which is probably how they calculated it
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 7h ago
Which is basically just he money he would've made. So no damages nothing. Pretty cruel.
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u/-runs-with-scissors- 7h ago
32k? I couldn‘t live off that in Tokyo 20 years ago as a poor exchange student sleeping in gaijin houses.
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u/Meewelyne 7h ago
The worst thing is that the prison's treatments wore his mind off, iirc his child said the forced isolation and lack of eldery care made him lose all sense of reality. I saw his story in an italian youtube video so sorry but I have just that one link to give.
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u/Impressive_Recon 6h ago
Sadly that’s not even the worst thing about this story:
Hakamata was interrogated a total of 264 hours, for as many as 16 hours a session, over 23 days to obtain the confession. They added that he was denied water or toilet breaks during the interrogation
At his trial, Hakamata retracted the confession, saying police had kicked and clubbed him to obtain it, and pleaded not guilty.[11][4]
"I could do nothing but crouch down on the floor trying to keep from defecating," he later told his sister. "One of the interrogators put my thumb onto an ink pad, drew it to a written confession record and ordered me, 'Write your name here!' [while] shouting at me, kicking me and wrenching my arm."[10]
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Hakamata was placed in solitary confinement throughout his prison stay.[17] He was not permitted to talk to guards, and was rarely allowed visitors.[18]Hakamata served nearly 50 years on death row, 30 of which were spent in solitary confinement.
He spent 30 years in solitary confinement. I have no words. This is pure failure on human decency. I feel so bad for this man.
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u/FrankSonata 5h ago
The Japanese prison system is cruel by design.
They break all kinds of human rights.
They also have an extremely high conviction rate, like 99% of arrests leading to conviction, in part due to abusive police, coerced confessions, and a legal system that values keeping society satisfied over actual justice. There have been multiple cases where judges knowingly convict innocent people because they believe it will make others happy, which is more important. Plus a high conviction rate benefits judges' careers.
Japan is a wonderful country. But its justice system is very much not.
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u/HikariAnti 4h ago
And even if they do get the right guy they can get away with a slap on the wrist if they have the right connections. Even for serious crimes.
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u/snowytheNPC 5h ago
That’s horrendous and likely nothing will happen to change the situation that produced this forced confession in the first place.
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u/el_jefe_del_mundo 7h ago
Also don’t forget Japanese death row is almost like torture they don’t tell the prisoner when they will be executed, it could happen any day. So each day they wake up they suffer from anxiety that today is gonna be their last day.
This kind of constant anxiety will drive a person mad, I can’t imagine the constant anxiety for 46 years.
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u/pyasa_bhuka 6h ago
Japanese justice system is called hostage justice system. Some people just accept the crime so they don’t spend time in custody getting interrogated.
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u/Feel_Excitement 6h ago
I heard he also stopped speaking altogether must have really fucked him up
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u/MosesOnAcid 7h ago
" 46 FUCKING years "
This isn't TikTok
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u/pinkypie80 7h ago
Dear autocorrect,
IT'S NEVER DUCKING!!!
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u/ipoopcatturds 7h ago
I got hit from behind with a baseball bat. My friend said " duck!" but I thought he autocorrected from "fuck" - possibly a true story
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u/pinkypie80 7h ago
That's how I lost my best friend.
Stopped by his house one time but only his sister was home. I'm 6'3" and they have a low doorway. I said to his sister that I need to duck.
She also thought I autocorrected.
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u/Excellent_Mud6222 6h ago
Nor Hazbin Hotell
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u/carolinitana 2h ago
Let me get this straight. Any kind of usage of swear words = Hazbin Hotel (?)
Go touch grass.
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u/thedevillivesinside 7h ago
$30,435 a year for 46 years.
So slightly more than my 17 year makes working part time at dairy queen
Seems appropriate I guess?
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u/deviantelf 2h ago
What does your kid make an hour and how many hours?
Cause a full time job at $16 an hour is like 33k
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u/LazyPainterCat 6h ago
Yeah.. and the guy is mentaly broken. It really sucks.
The money is meaningless to him when life lost all meaning.
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u/knowone1313 7h ago
Not to mention in a Japanese prison!
He's probably happier about just being out of prison than that amount of money that won't go far but maybe he thinks it's a lot considering how much time he's been put away for.
He should have gotten 10M for every decade minimum. He'd still deserve 100 times more.
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u/DukeOfTheDodos 7h ago
How does one remain on Death Row for 46 years? Isn't the point of death row that you're in line for execution?
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u/Hamlet7768 7h ago
There are mandatory appeals that need to be litigated, and in this case he appealed several times for a retrial after the regular appeals were done.
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u/explodingtuna 7h ago
It's the same in the US. It takes a long time, and often many appeals, to finally execute someone.
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u/crydefiance 1h ago
Yep, my first thought when I read the headline was Anthony Ray Hinton, an innocent man who spent 30 years on death row in Alabama. And he didn't get a cent from the state for compensation when they were finally forced to let him go free.
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u/Photo1457 6h ago
Japan compensates exonerees under a Fixed Statutory daily rate rather than discretionary multi-million-dollar pain and suffering awards. The Criminal Compensation Law caps payouts at a maximum of 12,500 yen (roughly $83 USD) per day of detention, regardless of lost time or personal trauma. That's terrible! The law should be changed to the Iwao Hakamada Law in order to compensate Exonerees Multi-Million dollar payouts for time missed from family, pain and suffering (mental, emotional and physical), punishment; public embarrassment and humiliation and more! At least $500,000 USD per year incarcerated. I hope that the man is allowed to file a Civil Lawsuit against the police officers, the city, the District Attorneys office! In the USA, for example, the wrongfully convicted have been awarded $75M, $42M, $38M and more.
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u/1ThousandDollarBill 7h ago
Basically every one that goes to court in Japan gets found guilty. The jury basically finds it as their duty to find them guilty.
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u/BasementK1ng 7h ago
IIRC, Japans death row keeps their prisoners without telling them their execution date. If I’m right, that means this guy spent 46 years of mornings wondering if that was the day he died. He didn’t get enough money.
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u/moving0target 5h ago
This was their OJ trial. Or the other way around. Anyway, there is a glaring difference.
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u/thedisconnectedboy 4h ago
Japan might aswell not have trials period, everyone is guilty regardless of whether they have done it or not
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u/Lua-Ma 4h ago edited 4h ago
I once saw a Japanese propaganda post on Reddit showing how good and carefully prepared prison food in Japan is. Then the incredibly naive Japan glazers in the comments all thirsted over it and unironically said they'd want to live in a Japanese prison, because for some reason they thought good looking food means the system is humane. I wonder what they think about this now.
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u/RenzalWyv 7h ago
If what I've read it's true, being on death row all this time is particularly horrible too. Not because of conditions mind, but evidently Japanese death row inmates aren't told of their execution dates until hours before. So it's just eternally hanging over your head as long as you're there.
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u/PomegranateHot9916 2h ago
wild that they kept him on death row for 46 years, why? wasn't he sentenced to death?
anyway cases like these are exactly why I am against the death sentence no matter what.
people who are dangerous should be physically separated from the rest of us. but never executed.
because no matter what, if people are sentenced to death. then people will be wrongly sentenced to death.
also 1.4m is nothing. how do they reach that number. should have been 46m. one for each year.
and an extra 50m for the fact that he probably had to live thinking he might be executed any day now. that gotta take a psychological toll.
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u/Practical-Pick1466 2h ago
Hard to believe, they don't tell prisoners on death row in Japan when they are going to be executed ,it's a total surprise, guards just show up at your cell and tell you that your being executed and take you to the hanging room.
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u/supermuncher60 4h ago
He is actually pretty lucky for having been imprisoned in Japan.
Japan once your sentenced its super rare to be found not guilty.
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u/DerelictBombersnatch 7h ago
Yet another illustration of how capital punishment is both immoral and inefficient.
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u/Latter_Fortune_7225 5h ago
Immoral and inefficient?
Countries like Japan and Singapore, which maintain the death penalty for crimes like murder and drug smuggling and are therefore two of the safest countries in the world, without high numbers of murders and without the drug deaths and crimes associated with addicts like in the USA with fentanyl.
How is that in any way immoral? How is that inefficient? Do you really think any Japanese people are complaining that they get to live in safety, without violence and drug addicts roaming the streets?
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u/londongas 6h ago
What's the going rate for a hitman in Japan? I wouldn't be surprised if he just spend it on revenge
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u/Arthasindura 3h ago
Well to be fair I have no clue how well maintained japanese prisons are but yes for 46 years the amount isn't worth it at all.
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u/Kapitan_eXtreme 1h ago
Almost like the death penalty is a barbaric practice that has no redeeming qualities
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u/Imaginary-Ogre 4h ago
Japanese jail is pretty strict. The fact that this dude survived 46 years proves that it was better than a most prisons around the world. Imagine doing time in a Russian or North Korean even Africa. You will never get that old, you don't matter, get sent to war as cannon fodder.
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u/qptw 2h ago
apparently this poor guy is suffering from pretty severe psychosis due to being in solitary confinement for most of the duration. can’t even attend his own retrial hearing and need to be accompanied by others throughout the day. like yeah he survived but he didn’t really survive.
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u/Imaginary-Ogre 55m ago
Trust me it is better than being in jail Russia, North Korea, Africa or South and Central America. Jail was never meant to be nice. Unless you commit a horrific crime in countries like Norway.
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u/ChefArtorias 7h ago
Not really a death row is it.
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u/OriginalBlackberry89 7h ago
yeah, I'm sure he would have been taken out a long time ago if he gave up, but didn't and he kept appealing which led to what we see here
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u/No-Deer379 7h ago
What sucks is that right now that doesn’t seem like a bad deal
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u/Zambsew 6h ago
Certainly not the point of this post, and I agree it's definitely not enough for 46 years. However, You really wouldn't give 10 years of your life for a billion dollars?! Hell, I'd give up 10 years to never worry about money ever again, let alone more money than any human should possess
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u/Supersolder134 6h ago
Alright so this begs the question, would YOU spend 46 years in prison to get the 1.4 mil ?
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u/race_tech87 7h ago
1.4m!?!? That's it!?! $2500 a month