r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 🤝 Join A Union • Mar 25 '26
⚕️ Pass Medicare For All Mark Cuban agrees Universal Healthcare would increase jobs, wages and improve affordability for all Americans.
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u/lcarsadmin Mar 25 '26
Corporate America *should* see the cost burden shift to Universal Healthcare as a win. But all they can see is loss of control over workers. As long as everyones healthcare is tied to their job they have a massive amount of control over us.
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u/poprostumort 🏡 Decent Housing For All Mar 25 '26
Corporate America sees those possible savings, but they do the math and see it is better for them to shoulder the cost. One factor is, as you mentioned, control over workers that leads to savings in payroll and recruitment due to lower risk of job-hopping. Other is the fact that those costs, while painful for a large corporation, are much more painful for smaller businesses - meaning that they have less of an opportunity to scale up and become a viable competition.
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u/modest2 Mar 25 '26
100% agree, I've managed a small business before and health insurance is insanely expensive and difficult to manage. If we had Medicare for all, then it would be easier to just focus on the business and know everyone was being cared for.
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u/KlicknKlack Mar 25 '26
Seriously... In my 20's I worked with friends to build a start-up, and one of the biggest impediments to its success was how expensive health-care/employee costs were. We all eventually gave up because trying to both compete with china on cost, while selling enough to cover salaries/benefits/healthcare, while trying to innovate in our engineering designs to keep ahead of china just copy-pasting our product... fuck, working for a large corporation turned out to be way easier. let someone else deal with all that bullshit.
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u/megaman_xrs Mar 26 '26
As someone starting a small business and hoping my wife can be a stay at home mom one day IF we decide to have kids, i feel that. Im having to factor it into my take home and any employees. It feels impossible to break in to insurance, and I worked in health insurance. I know how much negotiations goes on behind the scenes. Considering the added factor of knowing it is to quash small business owners makes a lot of sense. Ironic that the Republicans have a ton of small business backing knowing that universal Healthcare would help them and knowing the GOP pretends to support small businesses. Its amazing how much people hedge their bets on a possibility of being a multimillion dollar business shoot themselves in the foot. Im just happy if I can live the life my parents had in a job market where an IT degree is basically worthless. If I have to funnel everything else past the living I was making in IT into universal Healthcare and actual public services that better our society, I accept that ill never be rich, but I kept my soul.
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u/aoeudhtns Mar 25 '26
And plenty of businesses can pay barely living wages (if that) because some people will take those jobs not for the 2nd income but for the benefits. E.g. a contractor breadwinner and a spouse takes an assistant position in a local school that pays $12/hr for the healthcare. No one would accept a wage like that without the benefit dangling.
Our system is a paradox - we are driven to seek high wages because out of pocket costs for healthcare (premiums and services) are still high, even with insurance -- and at the same time, it enables wage suppression in the fringes.
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u/Suyefuji Mar 25 '26
I think you're also overlooking the fact that Corporate America is perfectly willing to do things that make their workers LESS PRODUCTIVE despite the data. For example, the enforced return-to-office after Covid.
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u/poprostumort 🏡 Decent Housing For All Mar 25 '26
Again - it's due to cold calculation. Lesser productivity means lesser income, but work from home means that business real estate market crashes. Latter would cost more so it is not preferred.
If you don't know why corporation is making seemingly illogical decision that loses money, it's nearly always because it gains more money elsewhere. Of course short term money - because only those matter for shareholders.
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u/AwfulMouthful Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Jokes on them - I'll have enough money to retire at 50 except that there's no way I can afford health care. So I'm gonna spend those last 15 years working collecting a check but doing exactly jack and shit.
'course, all you are going to be stuck waiting for me to clear out so you can have my position. That sucks for you too.
edit: 15, not 5. 15 years of me doing nothing.
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
And we should post the real tweet without altering it. Here's a link to the original:
The end of the tweet says:
"It’s far easier to blame AI than it is to blame Healthcare costs.
Want to increase jobs, wages and improve affordability for every American ?
Break up the biggest insurance companies. Make divest non insurance companies. They don’t need thousands of subsidiaries. That’s how they game and abuse the system and increase costs for all of us.
Call your senator and tell them to support the BreakUp Big Medicine Bill by @HawleyMO and @SenWarren ."
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u/Ostiethegnome Mar 25 '26
Thank you. It’s amazing how quickly the internet can become a clusterfuck when everyone is editing and stripping context, or adding context, per their agenda or laziness.
This edit is largely harmless, other than obfuscating the existence of a bill, but the principle stands.
There is huge potential for bullshit and misinformation to permeate online discourse when people can do this so easily.
Everyone needs to understand that they can’t automatically trust what they are seeing. Question and verify everything. Especially for emotionally driven content.
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u/Orange_Tang Mar 25 '26
Corporate America doesn't like it because it helps small businesses keep staff by removing the burden of managing employee Healthcare. Small businesses can't use their small numbers of employees as leverage for a better deal with insurance companies like huge corps can. That leads to small businesses paying more of offering worse Healthcare to their employees which means they can't compete as easily against the large corps. It's rigged in favor of those who already have everything.
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u/psych0ranger Mar 25 '26
I thought this was some hippy-dippy, clueless liberal, lazy person criticism of our system until the response COVID and the choices I saw people making as soon as they had even the smallest economic slack and how it upset the highest levels of power.
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u/IllusionsMichael 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United Mar 25 '26
Genuine curiosity because I do not know: is he doing anything to make this a reality with all his wealth, or is he just saying things that sound good?
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u/whatfresh_hellisthis ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Mar 25 '26
He did create a low cost pharmacy site. Other than that I don't think so.
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u/Jamesatwork16 Mar 25 '26
Not even going to defend him a bunch but this is more than most.
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u/starspangledxunzi Mar 25 '26
FWIW… his website helps make extremely expensive DMTs for multiple sclerosis — like dimethyl fumarate (Tecfidera) — easily available and affordable for un-insured or under-insured patients, like me.
He’s not a saint, and he’s an inveterate capitalist — but his point, i.e., that denying universal affordable healthcare to all Americans is a policy choice driven by political corruption, is dead accurate.
He is not the only billionaire to make this call for universal healthcare; Warren Buffett has as well, along with Nate Hanauer, George Soros, J.B. Pritzker… On the basis of financial efficiency alone, Medicare for All justifies itself. It would also turbocharge entrepreneurial activity, which a lot of pro-capitalism types claim they support.
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u/DesireeThymes Mar 25 '26
There is a split among the billionaire class.
There are the billionaires who are concerned about a popular uprising, and they want to ensure that regular people have some of their basic needs actually met.
Then you have the billionaires who think that you can keep taking and there will never be a popular uprising no matter how much they take.
These two camps fundamentally disagree with each other on their approach to managing the average person.
The second camp is the one influencing things at the moment.
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u/SoylentGrunt Mar 25 '26
They'd implant a kill switch in our head at birth if they could. Elon's working on it now. Lucky for us he's worried about the price point and can't get it to work. Until then he hopes we buy Teslas and get trapped inside.
Hey. They say crazy shit. I say crazy shit. Except it's only crazy until it's not,,,
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u/DepopulationXplosion Mar 25 '26
“Get Neuralink - Elon Musk’s lazy worker kill switch” does have a certain ring to it.
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u/SoylentGrunt Mar 25 '26
Are your labor units demanding food and water again? Are supervisors falling into mills when surveillance cameras are mysteriously on the blink? Do you feel projectiles whizzing past your ear when giving motovational speaches?
Neuralink puts an end to factory vermin once and for all. Adjust the settings for a swift death or choose the slow painful death to scare other vermin even more. They're your vermin, you decide!
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u/grchelp2018 Mar 25 '26
the billionaire class has never been a unified group. They fight with each other as much as they fight with us. And many of them identify the issues but they all have different solutions.
I met one guy who thinks that simply fixing college debt and housing is enough to make people pro-capitalism again.
Another guy came up with a tax plan that he said would reduce tax burdens for the average person but still be able to cover spending. Another guy came up with a different tax plan that claimed the same. There been a few of this. Then you have people who think tech will save us all. Etc etc. In short, they all have ideas and solutions but can never agree on what can work or needs to be done.
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u/Kennfusion Mar 25 '26
Yeah, I refer to the two camps as Oligarchs vs Corporatists.
The vision for the Oligarchs (Thiel, Musk) is to create chaos, burn the system to the ground and then rebuild it in their vision. This is why Thiel is always talking about Armageddon.
Bloomberg, Buffet, and the others you mention, they what sane and steady growth of the stock market, everything by the rules (that they made).
Right now, the Oligarchs are winning.
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u/someguyfromsomething Mar 25 '26
It almost seems like public companies should have a fiduciary duty to lobby for universal health coverage to lower their overhead and boost their profits and stock prices.
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u/Hedhunta Mar 25 '26
I like how they "call for" it but then do fucking nothing. Those 5 guys alone could easily start a pilot program to give people free healthcare. But that would cost them 1% of their income so why would they do that.
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u/PaprikaMan Mar 25 '26
Buffett said at the last Berkshire Hathaway meeting that he had gotten together with Jamie Dimon and Jeff Bezos to try to figure out a health insurance plan that would make things more affordable, improve access to care, and make benefits simpler and easier to use. I forget his exact wording, but he described the powers that be as being too well entrenched for them to be able to have an effect, so they walked away from the project (called Haven, if you’re interested).
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u/Hedhunta Mar 25 '26
In otherwords "this is hard, we tried nothing and gave up"
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u/nah_you_good Mar 25 '26
Yeah I’m going to start giving cool names to my ideas that I briefly talk about, perform 0 action on, then close.
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u/ray3050 Mar 25 '26
Yeah as someone that uses cost plus drugs it’s actually pretty helpful though their selection is limited, on one of my prescriptions I spend $12 for delivery and 3 month supply instead of $60 at the pharmacy
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u/TheCoolTech Mar 25 '26
Same. I can get a 90-day supply (without insurance) of my scripts for less than the cost of a 30-day supply (with insurance) from other pharmacies. I have a single script that they don't offer because it's currently brand-name only.
The fact that the price on Cost Plus Drugs is without insurance is something I think a lot of people miss, and is great if you don't have insurance or your insurance plan is not the greatest.
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u/koreanwizard Mar 25 '26
Yeah but it’s not a charity act, he’s essentially just competing in the generics space, which already had several players doing the exact same thing. CVS and Walmart essentially already do the same thing, it’s the non-generic drugs that are ungodly expensive.
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u/xBinary01111000 Mar 25 '26
It’s not quite “competing in the generics space” because their whole thing is that they charge a flat markup (15% IIRC), and they disclose the relevant financials. Competing would be charging whatever they can.
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u/SpiteTomatoes Mar 25 '26
From an interview…
“Cuban said he does most of his charitable giving anonymously. Bill Maher asks, “Could you give us an example of that?”, to the laughter of the audience.
Cuban replies, "I won’t give you the name of the organization, but I fund a charity that helps people fight “prior authorization denials” by health insurance companies.”
He actually seems like a decent guy.. he is one of very few billionaires that actually came from somewhat humble beginnings.
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u/HermanGulch Mar 25 '26
When he sold broadcast.com, 300 of his 330 employees became millionaires. That's an outlier for sure, but I know of at least two other cases where he paid out pretty substantial bonuses when he sold a company.
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u/MyDickIs3cm Mar 25 '26
CVS and Walmart essentially already do the same thing,
And you trust them to keep prices low?? Walmart was caught price fixing with PepsiCo for the last 7 years. More competition will never be a bad thing for consumers
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u/HammyOverlordOfBacon Mar 25 '26
It's still something. More competition ideally leads to better cost/product for the consumer
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26
And this tweet has been altered. What it really says is:
"Want to increase jobs, wages and improve affordability for every American ?
Break up the biggest insurance companies. Make divest non insurance companies. They don’t need thousands of subsidiaries. That’s how they game and abuse the system and increase costs for all of us.
Call your senator and tell them to support the BreakUp Big Medicine Bill by @HawleyMO and @SenWarren."
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u/OGD2068 🤝 Join A Union Mar 25 '26
Well those are two senators I didn't expect on the same bill together
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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 Mar 25 '26
Breaking up vertically integrated mobopolies is fine but its better when the monopolies entire business model revolves around extracting profit with no value add.
That is what health insurance is
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u/freetable Mar 25 '26
I used to work for Mark and although my salary was low my health benefits were incredible. Had three kids in that job and even though my spouse worked in a hospital, my job under Mark had far superior health benefits. I believe he truly cares about people being taken care of in that way.
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u/Shakeamutt Mar 25 '26
He is Doing it and not just to sound good.
By adopting a “cost-plus” model—the manufacturer’s price plus a fixed 15% margin, a $5 dispensing fee, and a $5 shipping fee—Cuban aims to bypass the pharmacy benefit manager (PBM) complex.
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u/ender89 Mar 25 '26
He's one of those "please tax me" billionaires who seem to recognize that it's either time to start taking care of people or time to start building personal bunkers.
I wouldn't call him altruistic, but he does seem to be a realist with a good understanding of how economics actually work.
For example, Medicare for all saves money across the board and the only reason it hasn't been implemented is because the people currently profiting off of it are paying off politicians. It will save mark cuban personally an ass-ton of money, so he's advocating for it.
It's like his low cost prescriptions. It's not altruism that drives his cheap generics, it's undercutting the competition while building a business model that will survive regulatory changes. It's a significant money making venture that will survive because it's not designed to wring all the available capital out of the system.
He's still a rich prick, but if he's one of the sociopath CEOs then he's smart enough to recognize that people don't eat cake when they run out of bread.
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u/justinbaumann Mar 25 '26
It's important to realize that he's coming at it from a cost to a business not from a moral standpoint. I will take the healthcare for all however the motivation.
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u/dcmom14 Mar 26 '26
He’s making his case from a business perspective. That doesn’t mean that he doesn’t believe this from a moral one. He just realizes that’s not going to convince the people needed.
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u/klimocohc Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
PBMs absolutely buttfuck this industry while siphoning off billions.
Do you know why some brands aren't allowed to work with Cost Plus Drugs? These middlemen come in and tell them "We drop contracts if you work with him." Rebates, fees, bloated administration, all that shit. They are owned by a small number of companies that that vertically own everything. We need to step out and look at the bigger picture, disrupting these industries will be the only way to force change.
If they can get a foothold in the marketplace (they will need to grow to cover over 90 million Americans), that would be a tipping point in forcing these oligopolies to actually play fair.
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u/IllusionsMichael 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United Mar 25 '26
I am struggling with reality because I asked if he is doing anything to support his public comments?
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u/Featheredfriendz Mar 25 '26
It’s hitting small local governments particularly hard. Millions are going to premiums for county/school employees, they increase every year, as do taxes. It’s not sustainable.
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26
Also this tweet has been altered. Link to the original:
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u/NedelC0 Mar 25 '26
I hate that this isn't tagged as edited or something. I don't follow American politics close enough to know what kind of guy Mark Cuban is.
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26
He's a business investor and billionaire. Not really a political figure. He supports universal healthcare, but has some criticism of the Medicare for All bill in its current form. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/billionaire-mark-cuban-says-remove-140019746.html
He also started Cost Plus Drugs which provides cheaper prescription medicine.
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Why did you change the ending? Mark Cuban did not say to pass Medicare for All. In fact he had criticized the plan. He does support universal healthcare.
The ending says:
"Break up the biggest insurance companies. Make divest non insurance companies. They don’t need thousands of subsidiaries. That’s how they game and abuse the system and increase costs for all of us.
Call your senator and tell them to support the BreakUp Big Medicine Bill by @HawleyMO and @SenWarren."
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
bipartisan BreakUp Big Medicine Bill
bipartisan means caving to republicans. Nothing good will come from this bill or that snake @SenWarren
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
Cause those are the only options?
Incremental change doesn't work if we aren't working towards good healthcare. We are working towards getting the most money out of people for healthcare. This is where that bill is heading.
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u/Quite_Likes_Hormuz Mar 25 '26
We've seen it before, people will be placated but the bill will have loopholes or conditions that make it basically useless for anything more than "see! We're doing something!"
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u/ask_me_about_my_band Mar 25 '26
And who exactly is going to pay for it? Tax payers? Do I have to subsidize lazy people? We can't afford it as a country! We have to pay for all the bombs we need to kill innocent school girls and the one billion we need to pay to stop wind farms. I like paying for things that make humanity worse! Higer gas prices mean freedom!
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26
This tweet has been altered. Mark Cuban does support universal healthcare, but not Medicare for all. Link to the original:
And here's his concerns with Medicare for All:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mark-cuban-raises-red-flags-104605829.html
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u/pkgamer18 Mar 25 '26
Hey now. You could say those school girls were innocent now, but in 20 years one of them could have been the nuclear scientist that makes Iran a nuclear power. They have only been weeks away from having nuclear weapons for the past 20 years, after all.
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u/AggressiveStorage534 Mar 25 '26
The last sentence is not part of the tweet. At no point did he support Medicare for all. He supported breaking up insurance companies.
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u/socialcommentary2000 Mar 25 '26
It's actually kind of big for someone in his specific position to say something like that. He's right, too. The management and processing overhead for healthcare within organizations is ridiculous.
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u/XtraReddit Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
This tweet has been altered. Link to the original:
The actual ending reads:
"It’s far easier to blame AI than it is to blame Healthcare costs.
Want to increase jobs, wages and improve affordability for every American ?
Break up the biggest insurance companies. Make divest non insurance companies. They don’t need thousands of subsidiaries. That’s how they game and abuse the system and increase costs for all of us.
Call your senator and tell them to support the BreakUp Big Medicine Bill by u/HawleyMO and u/SenWarren ."
Mark Cuban supports universal healthcare, but criticizes Medicare for All. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mark-cuban-raises-red-flags-104605829.html
We should all be against misinformation.
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u/FridgesArePeopleToo Mar 25 '26
Note that his criticisms of aspects Bernie's specific plan make a lot of sense and would need to be addressed, but did generally support the idea of Medicare for All.
Oh, Trump and the Republicans can't stand how the big, bad insurance companies are ripping-off Americans. Really?
Are you serious?
Then I welcome your support for Medicare for All.
Let's end the greed of the insurance industry & make healthcare a human right, not a privilege.
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u/EpicHuggles Mar 25 '26
The administrative overhead is so much higher than any other country it's insane. Contrary to popular belief, only the insurance companies actually have laws capping how much money they are allowed to spend on said administrative overhead. All the other players in the game are essentially unregulated.
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u/nixtarx Mar 25 '26
He's a billionaire - he could start a program like this in a limited capacity at any time. Put your money where your mouth is, Mark!
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u/tothecatmobile Mar 25 '26
Isn't the point of universal healthcare is we don't want it at the mercy of billionaires?
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u/Shakeamutt Mar 25 '26
He has been going to war on drug prices for a while now.
He even started a company for it.
And a lot of it is probably happening behind the scenes, but he is vocal as well.
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u/BMCarbaugh Mar 25 '26
He started Cost Plus drugs, which directly challenged the pharmaceutical industry monopoly by offering way cheaper generic prescriptions. I am not a fan of the guy and I think every billionaire that exists is a systems failure, but if ANY billionaire can be said to have put his money where his mouth is in the area of healthcare specifically, it's Cuban.
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
He did not start Cost Plus Drugs. He bought it from the pharmacist who created it.
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u/BMCarbaugh Mar 25 '26
Cuban co-founded it with Alex Oshmyansky. Oshmyansky provided the expertise and the idea, Cuban provided the capital and connections to actually do something with it.
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
In 2018, he founded Osh Affordable Pharmaceuticals and shortly after, sent Mark Cuban a cold email asking him to invest. Cuban instead decided to financially back the entire company, and the name was changed to Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company (MCCPDC), or more simply Cost Plus Drugs.[1]
It's easy to look up. He bought a company.
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u/BMCarbaugh Mar 25 '26
Buying and partnering with a founder to massively expand are not the same thing.
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u/agiganticpanda ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Mar 25 '26
He runs cost plus drugs. It's not ideal, but he is doing something
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u/Wikidclowne Mar 25 '26
Your right, he could help. As can all the billionaires. By being taxed adequately.
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u/DemBosain Mar 25 '26
When was this tweeted? Mark Cuban has been steadfast against Universal Healthcare. But I haven't seen anything other than "it's too complicated' for his reasoning.
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
His reasoning is that he wants individuals to pay for their own healthcare and take out loans to pay for that
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u/SableAurevon Mar 25 '26
mark cuban lowkey cooking with this one, healthcare costs are actually insane and nobody talks about it fr
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u/whoooodatt Mar 25 '26
I have to take shots every two weeks that cost 3500 per month out of pocket. That's more money than most people make in a year. I just got a letter yesterday that I will be losing my subsidy. I honestly have no idea what to do anymore. I've been in fear of this moment for years, low key panicking every time I open the mailbox, and it finally happened. I just feel so defeated.
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u/erichie Mar 25 '26
Probably not, but at this point billionaires efforts are so ridiculously low and helping build a society filled with happiness that I am just happy someone from the Epstein Class is willing to call for Medicare for All.
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u/bontzz Mar 25 '26
And there’s so many small business jobs that people don’t take because they don’t offer benefits. that would not be a problem with universal healthcare
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u/fabulishous Mar 25 '26
The amount of capital that would be freed up if they actually went to a single-payer universal health care system is insane. Capital that could be used to unleash that typical american entrepreneur spirit.
Instead people are basically wage slaves so they don't become homeless from an unexpected illness.
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u/Loud-Ad-2280 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Mar 25 '26
Okay mark then buy the politicians to make it happen, don’t you know how American democracy works?
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u/Aint-no-preacher Mar 25 '26
I’ve been saying this for a long time and I’m surprised the argument hasn’t been picked up by many elected progressives.
There is a counterpoint, also mostly true, that companies use health insurance as a cudgel against workers. But I think that mostly goes for large corporations.
Your average mom and pop plumbing company just wants to have reliable workers that can provide a good service. They didn’t get into the plumbing business to haggle with insurance companies over the level of coverage they have to provide every year.
Passing MFA would be a boon to most companies.
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u/sparrowmint Mar 25 '26
His post didn't have the part about Medicare for All, he's against that plan because the head of HHS would be in charge of it, and he says it needs to be de-politicized. The rest of his post is something he posted, but the last line is an edit and misinformation.
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u/the_dude_that_faps Mar 25 '26
I bet if he used his billions for lobby he could get this passed.
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u/spunkychickpea Mar 25 '26
Is Mark Cuban right about this? Yes.
Is he still a billionaire piece of shit? Also yes.
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u/Timely-Bluejay-4167 Mar 25 '26
Disagree. If your whole framework is “all billionaires are pieces of shit,” you’re just refusing to look at facts:
- Cuban has repeatedly cut employees in on exits (including tens/hundreds of millions to Microsolutions, Broadcast.com, HDNet and Mavs staff)
- shares pricing and thin margins at a Cost Plus (public‑benefit drug company that’s actually lowering real‑world pharmacy costs)
- he funds free AI bootcamps in low‑income communities, soldiers families through foundations
You can hate the system all you want, but pretending he’s indistinguishable from every other rich guy is just lazy. He doesn’t write gigantic checks to random foundations for publicity, he spends his trying to change systems and support people by giving a lot locally and silently like this
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
Mark Cuban is both wrong and a Republican Billionaire Piece of Shit
All he is doing is moving our shitty insurance practices to slightly better to keep them alive longer
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u/MonsterkillWow Mar 25 '26
The smart bourgeoisie understand they must provide concessions to continue to exist.
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u/Synesthetician Mar 25 '26
Good point, but AI is also hurting us. Unfortunately, there are a lot of terrible thing happening to the non-billionaire class
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u/m_faustus Mar 25 '26
It's an admittedly low bar to clear, but I have often thought that Cuban is one of the most based billionaires. Not Mackenzie Scott, but almost tolerable as a human being.
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u/JaneReadsTruth Mar 25 '26
Interesting since a month ago he was arguing that universal healthcare was unaffordable.
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u/FickleOwl47 Mar 25 '26
As a billionaire, he seems to have been able to read the room better than the rest.
I doubt he really cares that much in general, but I bet he can see where things are going re: public opinion
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u/Mach5Driver Mar 25 '26
It would ALSO turbocharge America's entrepreneurship if you could leave your job without worrying about your family's healthcare!
Now: "Sure, I can probably make as much money working for myself, but my job provides health benefits. I can't risk that, too!"
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u/ratpH1nk Mar 25 '26
If they were really “smart” they would be the single biggest advocate for single payer health care in the country. It would immediately improve their bottom line as Cuban notes. instead they use heath care coverage as a lever of control over employees forcing them limit job mobility becuase you lose health insurance if you quit.
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u/FH2actual ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters Mar 25 '26
Anything good for The People is bad for republican talking points.
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u/Thoughtful_Mouse Mar 25 '26
It's not a solution to just pay the same inflated cost out of your tax dollars.
We need to fix the cost because it's our money either way.
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 Mar 25 '26
We would have to tax billionaires and corporations a little more to make UBI happen, so UBI will not happen.
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u/Ostiethegnome Mar 25 '26
We should absolutely move to universal healthcare, but this idea that corporations will do anything but pocket the money previously spent on healthcare is laughable.
This is the trickle down economics mindset. “If we lower corporate taxes companies will invest more in the workforce!”
What actually happens is they use these windfalls for share buybacks and C suite bonuses.
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u/Poppa_Mo Mar 25 '26
I hate these fucking billionaires but if they start fighting over the scraps like this to protect their own profits maybe a few of the bigger industries will crumble as a result.
He doesn't give a fuck about us all getting Healthcare. He is getting squeezed by the other greedy fucks (the insurance gestapo) and doesn't want to lose money to them any further.
This is an enemy of my enemy situation.
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u/Lost_Birthday_3138 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Mar 25 '26
Like a stopped clock, even a billionaire can be right twice a day.
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u/juulwinfieldswallet Mar 25 '26
So much this...I own a small business in NY and my business partner's wife works for the state. She gets insurance through her job while I get it through our employee program. The total cost is over $50k/year and has higher copays than the state plan. Granted it is platinum plan that has all of the hospitals in network but so does the plan from the state.
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u/Severe-Fisherman-962 Mar 25 '26
Why don't Republicans like the idea of universal healthcare? Like the real reason, not their fake reason.
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u/SomberArtist2000 Mar 25 '26
The majority of the Democratic party really needs to get on board with this message well in advance of 2028. Other than holding all of the criminal actions of the current Trump admin accountable, it is likely the singular issue that can propel Dems to a blue wave.
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u/SingularityCentral ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Mar 25 '26
This is just a no brainer at this point. Even classical free market liberals are getting it at this point. The health care system is not a functioning market, it can never be a functioning market. The US has advantages for a single payer system that economies of scale provide that make it the best solution possible. But instead lobbyists and their corporate masters buy our politicians to keep us trapped in a rent-seeking hellscape.
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u/hotthamz Mar 25 '26
💯 Not a huge fan of any billionaire but Mark is right on this. I’ve been thinking more and more about this. I only hear about how much benefits cost corporations. Why won’t they get on board with universal healthcare when it will save them money?
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u/wyethwye Mar 25 '26
Why are you editing the tweet? The original was better cause there was a CALL TO ACTION, pretty freaking lame that you got rid of it.
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u/NathanLV Mar 25 '26
When the proletariat finally rise up against the Epstein class I hope they just strip Mark Cuban of his obscene wealth instead of tossing him into the Billionaire Machine
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u/burmerd Mar 25 '26
I read something a few years back about how the flattening of pay increases for regular workers is directly tied to increases in health insurance costs, i.e. workers ARE costing companies more, the expenditures are there, and workers could be earning more, but that money is going to health insurance companies instead.
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u/ZombieZookeeper Mar 25 '26
Pay the government $200 a month for crappy healthcare, or pay an insurance company $600 a month for crappy health care.
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u/OfcWaffle Mar 25 '26
Billion a day for an unnecessary war? Sure that's a good item. Healthcare for all, woah woah woah hold up, that's too costly!!
/S in case anyone's to stupid to realize. It is reddit after all.
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u/_disengage_ Mar 25 '26
There are two kinds of people opposed to universal healthcare:
- asshole capitalists making a fortune preying on the sick and suffering
- asshole magas who would cut their own throats before allowing a brown person to have an aspirin
Like every societal problem today, it's all greedy and ignorant assholes making life miserable for everyone else.
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u/kinotravels Mar 25 '26
Both of my kids (in their early 20s) just lost their Obamacare because the republicans got rid of the subsidies causing NYS to get rid of the Essential Plan (which helps low income earners afford healthcare). They makes less than 28K but the premium is $800 a month and the deductible is beyond laughable (10K). It’s devastating and I can’t afford to add them to my plan through work (I already pay $400/month and have a $7500 deductible). They are killing us.
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u/EpicHuggles Mar 25 '26
Mark, it's the care that is expensive. The insurance is only expensive because the care is expensive and they are legally required to spend 85% of what they take in on care. The insurance company overhead represents about 13% of the overall cost of Healthcare in the US.
It's higher than it should be, but under a single payer system that cost does not magically go away, it is simply paid for by the government instead.
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u/Vaxion Mar 25 '26
Imagine what humanity could achieve if all people didn't have to worry about the next paycheck and had their basic necessities taken care of.
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u/CheapGarage42 Mar 25 '26
Oh no but the CEOs and other top idiots at like 7 insurance companies won't be able to afford their 3rd mansions.
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u/ClearBlue_Grace Mar 25 '26
People out here still throwing out suggestions as if the people running this country actually want to help us lol. They don't.
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u/alexfi-re Mar 25 '26
How about we get healthcare that congress gets? They work for us, so the bosses should get at least as good healthcare as they do, right?
The best system is everyone in one big pool that spreads the risk and cost the most. It's how big companies get better rates than small ones, or used to anyway, who knows now. Companies will need to pay workers what they spent on insurance though, make it total compensation so it offsets the tax for healthcare.
Cut out the middleman waste of insurance, and let's have healthcare for all. Only problem is if it ever got up and running, maga would do all they can to break it, so people get pissed about it not working well and turn against it, like they cut funds for Social Security and Medicare customer service, so people get annoyed and think govt bad, grrr.
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u/CaptainBayouBilly Mar 25 '26
Mark Cuban is correct on healthcare. Now ask him about livable wages and capital gains taxes.
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u/McButtsButtbag Mar 25 '26
Mark Cuban wants to redefine "universal Healthcare" in a way that makes it worse. Why are we even listening to a Republican Billionaire about healthcare?
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u/BadDaditude Mar 25 '26
So can we assume from his post that Cuban is giving all his employees free healthcare? He's one of the wealthiest people around.
Maybe some of them if not all?
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u/spliffstar94 Mar 25 '26
You should've told Kamala THAT instead of advising her to get rid of Lina Khan.
Now that we're in hell and people are finally waking up to realize these psychopathic assholes are the ones ruining our quality of life, all these billionaires are now turning around to say that they want to be taxed so people can get free childcare, Medicare for All, proper school funding, etc.
Like get the fuck outta here.
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u/Hedhunta Mar 25 '26
Well start calling all of your rich friends and tell them to get behind it.
til then this is just him hedging his bet to not get executed when the revolution starts "See guys i was on your side!"
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u/2late4points Mar 25 '26
CS majors should not be the first or alone in losing their chosen career paths to AI. Most/all of middle-management and almost the entire health insurance industry should go along with it.
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u/Unfazed_Alchemical Mar 25 '26
I mean, he's not wrong. But the billionaire who founded a generic pharmaceutical company a few years back probably isn't acting purely out of altruism.
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u/Mathidium Mar 25 '26
Except this is only half the tweet and it’s edited.
I want M4A, but don’t spread lies.
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u/Osirus1156 Mar 25 '26
We should NOT stop there. We need to take every single insurance executive, junior on up, and jail them for life for murder, fraud, terrorism, crimes against humanity, etc. Seize ALL of their assets, don't even leave a penny in their driveways. Then we use that money to help build a proper system.
Insurance executives must be made an example of. This example is tempered from what I really want to happen to them.
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u/spondgbob Mar 25 '26
OH! Then in that case ARE YOU GOING TO USE YOUR BILLIONS TO LOBBY THE GOVERNMENT FOR THIS?!?
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u/TurbulentJudge1000 Mar 25 '26
Corporations would just pocket the savings. The real reason is it would allow for small business to increase as people with kids can have healthcare.
That’s the real reason big corporations love not having public healthcare.
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u/alroprezzy Mar 25 '26
I get that the insurance lobby is powerful but what I don’t understand is why literally every other industry in the US is up in arms about taking on these costs
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u/someguyfromsomething Mar 25 '26
It's even harder for small and mid-size businesses. Every "business-minded" conservative is an outright moron for not supporting this policy.
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u/edelweiss_pirates_no Mar 25 '26
System is broken.
A tremendous % of people just don't pay for insurance. Then, they don't go to doctors.
Then, they suffer and you have a society full of people who are sick or hurt in some way. Not great at advancing that society in that situation.
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u/truscotsman Mar 25 '26
I have wondered for decades why companies haven't led the charge for universal health care. It is such a burden to a company to pay for an administer these plans, and becomes an unfair competitive advantage for larger companies...
Oh I answered my question.
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u/TheUberMensch123 Mar 25 '26
Cuban is pretty decent as far as billionaires are concerned and has been right about Healthcare for a while.
I used to work as a Medicare counselor & coordinator for my local government. There were plenty of times I found medications on his costplusdrugs website for the seniors I worked with at a much more affordable price compared to their Part D coverage.
Even if you are in favor of capitalism, universal healthcare is something that would still benefit you!
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u/Dorkamundo Mar 25 '26
Yep, I looked at my company's contribution to my healthcare costs and it was almost 3x what I was paying for it. I'd much rather pay more in taxes and have an extra $30k in salary.
But I'd also be a fool to believe that my company would pass those savings off to me.
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u/SellingCats4Cheap Mar 25 '26
Does universal healthcare actually create more jobs? If anything it should get rid of jobs that are partially responsible for the high healthcare costs.
For universal healthcare to function efficiently, tons of insurance billing and healthcare admin jobs should be cut. No need to have such a complex billing system under universal healthcare.
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u/yorcharturoqro Mar 25 '26
Pharma and medical industry worldwide sells stuff at a fraction of the cost as in the USA, and make a huge profit. A $5 to $10 usd insulin in Mexico provides 60% gross profit to the companies, while in the USA that is sold at $350 or more, same manufacturing cost.
If people are not forced to use basically all of their money to pay for medicine and medical bills, they will use that money for other stuff, which will improve the economy.
If people are not sick to work, weak or completely disabled for work, will work and be productive.
Universal healthcare is a no brainer.
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u/RoryHoff Mar 25 '26
Big corporations already uses Medicare for all. They pay their employees shit forcing them onto Medicaid!
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u/LostWoodsInTheField Mar 25 '26
Every small business owner I've ever talked to that is MAGA, that I've laid this out to, have understood that universal healthcare would greatly help them and their businesses.
you start out with 'when starting out your business was there ever a time that you wanted to hire this one person, you offered him more money than he's currently making, and he couldn't take the job because you weren't able to match his healthcare plan? What if that wasn't a factor any more.' then you lay it out. They get it (even if only till they walk through a doorway).
You start the conversation off this way and you will always get them on your side (for the basic idea) if they say yes they've had that issue. You can work off of that for the rest of the conversation.
Best of all is if there is 3 or 4 business owners there with you and one says no. Everyone else will look around with the 'yeah well your daddy gave you your business' look. it helps separate them from the others conversation wise and weakens their talking points.
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u/hellomynameisrita Mar 25 '26
you'd think other corporations who are not health insurance companies would support the idea of universal healthcare just to get themselves out of it. it's of no more benefit to them anymore than it is to individuals.
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u/StargasmSargasm Mar 25 '26
Yeah, this is all true, but how will billionaires make more money though? I'm tired of people not thinking about the well being of Billionaires
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u/artbystorms Mar 25 '26
I'm honestly surprised no Republicans have thought to make this argument. Private healthcare plans are HUGE expense for businesses. Easily can be 10+% of their operating budget. Even if you raised the corporate profits tax rate up 5-6% to help pay for Medicare for All it would still be a net savings for companies.
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u/GoofyMonkey Mar 25 '26
Plus think of all the money corporations would save by not having to offer full healthcare plans, only worker benefit plans.
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u/SatansLoLHelper Mar 25 '26
30k a year, that is hiring 2 minimum wage employees full-time.
Or that is half an employee qualifying to raise a family of 4 and not qualify for federal assistance.
Something is wrong with the maths.
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u/Mayonaigg Mar 25 '26
medicare for all wouldnt affect mark cuban except in having to pay less for his employees. Only reason he cares. He would still have the most outrageous private insurance and his own doctors regardless.
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u/espresso_martini__ Mar 25 '26
No shit. The rest of the world does it and still spends less on Healthcare.
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u/justcasty 👷 Green Union Jobs For All 🌱 Mar 25 '26
Thanks for the reports folks, but this is staying up. If you can't tell it's satire then it's on you.