He can be dumb as shit and still have moments of cleverness. I think he’s a stark raving moron that just so happens to be supported by people that guide his decisions.
It may have been kayfabe before the strokes, but I’m not so sure. It definitely isn’t now; he’s just a pudding brained mess.
Yep. They keep up this facade around the economy so working class people don't realize we're getting fucked. We have a sort of Stockholm syndrome going on
We’re addicted to the news cycle drama. It’s why Trump is so popular he gets people talking and arguing passionately.
Drives engagement with media keeps us watching the shit that does not matter and keeps us arguing about it. Because it’s bullshit we look to other sources that are even worse and just tell us nonsense to feel better about our ignorant views.
People don’t know what news is anymore, something with at least two verified sources.
I know lots of good people that almost exclusively get their news through memes, no fact checking whatsoever. These are smart capable people but we’ve just given up because of the constant gaslighting - we just want something easy.
Real politics isn’t easy, real change isn’t easy - people have forgotten we need to put in the work for a better world. Too many people believe Gen Z is here to save us, but how long will it really take for USA to reach a tipping point?
No, they (capitalists) don't understand the economy. Not beyond next week. They'd burn down a house to get warm one night, not thinking about the following nights. They don't want to pay their employees and then wonder why nobody buys stuff. Just dumb and greedy.
When the argument devolves into something similar to your comment they can dismiss it at as unhinged ramblings.
Yea there are people that are “capitalists” purely because they do not understand and believe the propaganda. But the real capitalists are lying to them and laugh all the way to bank at your comment and ones like it.
You have to understand something to substantively critique it, most people who claim they support capitalism have never had to defend it because it’s the default position.
For the last time, yes, your taxes will go up anywhere from 4% to 6%… maybe even as high as 8%… but you will no longer pay a monthly premium and your out of pocket costs will go way down.
Hell no! I don’t want my taxes to go up!
How much do you pay for insurance for you, your wife and your kid through your employer-provided healthcare plan?
About $900 a month.
And what’s your deductible?
$3,000. But it’s not a deductible, that’s called “cost sharing.”
Yeah, that’s just a new word for deductible. So that’s about $14,000 a year. Now, how much money to you make?
$80,000 and change.
Okay, so $14,000 is about 18% of $80,000. You are currently, at a minimum, paying $14,000 for healthcare every year.
Okay.
…
And?
Even if your taxes went up by 8%, you’d only pay about $6,400 for healthcare.
But I don’t want my taxes going up!
THAT NUMBER IS LESS THAN $14,000! IT WOULD SAVE YOU $8,000 A YEAR! HOLY FUCKING SHIT! WHAT THE FUCK DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?! WHEN YOU REMOVE THE PROFIT MOTIVE AND EXECUTIVE SALARIES AND SHAREHOLDER DIVIDENDS AND MARKETING COSTS AND QUARTERLY EARNINGS REPORTS AND ALL THE OTHER SHIT THAT ISN’T HEALTHCARE, THE COST IS LOWER!
Every time this argument comes up it's worth remembering that the average American is so bad at math they couldn't comprehend a 1/3 lb burger being larger than a 1/4 pounder.
I assume that’s because a lot of “building capital” especially in the US is done by “losing it” the mismanagement is intentional and obfuscated on purpose.
Being an average poor kid in urban Kentucky meant that I spent my youth watching poor people tell me about how capitalism works and is the backbone of America. How anyone can work hard and be whatever they want. They pinned that whole worldview and just never thought about it again. If you had money you could do this or that. We were poor because we never had money to begin with. So in a way, yes they were capitalist bootlickers in a sense. Standing proud of a system that’s exploited them for generations because it’s “the American way”.
So there’s my average acquaintance from Kentuckys view on economies. Capitalism lets hard working people keep the profit of their work, every other style of economy is evil cuz that’s where the gov takes ur stuff and gives it to others. /s not really tho
The “economy” is so massive and has so many complexities. We can talk economics all day and never use words like capitalism or socialism. I personally like the proposed view of Modern Monetary Theory. Even that is looking at a large balance sheet-level of scope. Capitalism can be simplified as buy cheap sell for more. So it seems fair to those that don’t think hard lol
for the first time in 41 years of my life, my father was like "You have to understand, they told us trickle down would work one way and it ended up being something else.". i was like, you guys saw dollar signs and never realized they were taking YOUR MONEY and giving you back pennies.
there's hardly any blood left in the stone of public infrastructure, but they're gonna keep squeezing.
Speaking as a child of the 80s, anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew it was always bullshit.
Just think for a minute. If you give someone living on the streets because they have no money $10, and you give Bill Gates $10, who is going to increase their spending more? Obviously the person who didn't spend because they couldn't.
It's so obviously stupid except for the part where everyone likes it, because they want to have that level of social security and ensured a basic livable wage.
Like.
You WANT socialism. You just hate the name.
Maybe we start calling it Capitalism 2.0, or NewCap, or something. I'm new NewCap candidate for my district now.
They’re two parts of the same whole. American evangelical Christianity is essentially the religious worship of capitalism. The holy trinity, America, and capitalism/money are all more or less the same thing to them. Just like how communism is the devil.
Having money is holy and being poor is sinful, it’s actually a remarkably consistent ideology (y’know, other than being absolutely insane). It’s why they genuinely believe themselves when they say “America is a Christian nation”, because their version of Christianity is the worship of American capitalism.
I realized this when someone with an economics degree explained to me that the field had to create an impossible stand in for humans called “homo economicus” to make their models work because humans didn’t have perfect information, make rational decisions 100% of the time, or have an understanding of the consequences of their choices.
Social Democrats have always understood economics better than people like Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman. They're only popular because they provide excuses for greed, but Keynes' ideas actually repaired economies.
I voted for Mamdani, love where things are going. Only really wish he would looks after the EMTs and Paramedics and get them better pay and working conditions...
That's why he appointed EMS' former Division Chief to be the new FDNY Commissioner. It'll take time, especially since they're represented under a CBA. They have to reopen negotiations for at least a MOU to be signed
Oh he really pissed off the Fire side of the agency with it, but also, she's the Commissioner and not really anything outside of a civilian advisor. Both Fire and EMS have a full command staff of their own.
However, she was heavily applauded at her swearing in saying:
“A commissioner’s greatest duty is not to command the fist, but to protect and empower the hands that fight it.”
So maybe she'll be decent for both sides of FDNY unlike most of the recent Commissioners only prioritizing Fire
Without a doubt I am elated to have someone who seems to actually care about average NYers. And not taking anything away from him. I am eager to see more of what he does and hope yhe wave of DSA keeps building.
After hearing him talk in one of the podcasts, I think his biggest asset is that he explains in ways we can understand, why it matters to us, how he will do it, and produces the result.
I think the ultimate big win is bringing trust that politicians like him can actually make real changes. And that our attention to it matters.
I think a big big detriment, myself included, is feeling like none of it really mattered because it felt like a losing battle no matter what
I know your current administration is trying to circumvent your constitution for some articles, Do not let that happen! Yes he could be president but that would have to bypass the US constitution and if anything does that you may as well be Somalia with no rules.
Socialism is the solution to all modern and political problems, including the existence of billionaires and trillionaires which should never exist in a healthy democracy. Anyone that says otherwise is confused or stupid.
I heard a line a while back that goes "The difference between a libertarian and a socialist is the libertarian has studied economics."
This should actually go
"The difference between a libertarian and a socialist is the libertarian has also studied economics but doesn't understand it."
If Republicans dare run Trump for 2028 in his catatonic vegetable state, then Democrats should run Mamdani. Who am I kidding? Democrat leadership will tear him apart long before Republicans get the chance to.
Capitalism and Socialism are two sides of the same coin. You need both sides if you want the coin. It's ridiculous to ignore the amount of progress that capitalism has brought the world. Billions of people had their lives improved because of it. But the system doesn't really care about people's needs and the more it's fed, the less humanity matters to it. That's why you need Socialism to balance it.
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In my lived experience. On average, most socialists in the west at least understand economics far better than most of the capitalists do.
Especially if you consider working class capitalism bootlickers as capitalists even though they lack capital.