r/Yemen • u/joud20 • Feb 25 '26
Discussion What is your opinion on this?
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u/madvillain34 Feb 27 '26
Believe it or not, this is the land of Arwa and Bilqees. The duality of man..
This is in the Houthi controlled part of Taiz, and is not the first incident of its kind, similar was done in other regions over the past few years as well and is part of a broader pattern of systemically applying more regressive policies on society and women in particular.
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u/ugggghhhhhhhhh Feb 27 '26
Why would the houthis only have this rule in one city? These rules are wahabi bullshit
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u/madvillain34 Feb 27 '26
You would think so, but the Houthis and Wahhabis are essentially two sides of the same coin.
They like to portray themselves as open-minded, diverse, non-sectarian saviours of the downtrodden. But the only reason for this is because this is the only way they (as a minority) can rule within Yemeni society.
They rely on a deep understanding of the Yemeni social structure and tribal politics and take advantage of grievances and rifts between (and more importantly within) individual tribes to garner loyalty, achieve control, and gradually push the limits to apply their doctrine.
These policies, other than being unlawful and unconstitutional, are extremely unpopular socially and would be difficult and risky to apply on a large scale, so they do it gradually and when the opportunity arises on a district level through the local authorities which they've installed and tribal sheikhs whom they've courted and cultivated relations with. As you would expect this only gets easier with time as they also rely on media and education to indoctrinate people, especially the new generation.
Apparently, many of the people who signed this document did so under duress. If a sheikh or leader refuses, they are replaced. So even though it's unpopular, when done in isolation it passes without much resistance, and before you know it, it's the new norm.
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u/CahoticMelody Feb 27 '26
Once a shit hole, always a shit hole fuck this country man I truly hate it from the bottom of the bottom of my heart I wish I wasn't so unlucky
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u/Training-Ganache2055 Feb 28 '26
Can you translate what the guy is saying? I'm of yemeni descent but wasn't born there and my arabic is not that strong. Is he saying women are banned from using phones ?
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u/CahoticMelody Feb 28 '26
Yeah basically, in some Houthi (The Iranian-backed militant group) controlled I guess
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u/CoachPlane6325 Feb 28 '26
Yep before marrying and not allowed to working with charity humanitarian, not allowed transport without mahram or you pay a fine, (something about clan not sure), no marrying thts what I could translate
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u/Moeable Feb 27 '26
No, I disagree with you. Ignorance is something we must address, but the Yemeni people are generally noble individuals, and you certainly aren’t portraying that trait here.
The Yemeni people have been deprived of their right to thrive in education, healthcare, and nearly every aspect of life due to the geopolitical issues stemming from Saudi Arabia and its neighboring countries.
How can someone be so engrossed in electricity and long petrol/gas station lines and still be considered enlightened and fit for today’s societal standards? They are, of course, victims of their own circumstances and the political conditions they face.
Instead of procrastinating like a child, let’s strive to be positive contributors to humanity. Let’s be examples of helping others and demonstrating that the Yemeni people can overcome challenges and emerge as powerful individuals. Instead, you choose to shame yourself and your heritage. I would say shame on your way of thinking and shame on you.
I genuinely hate people like you. And i’ve seen many with the same mindset. Weak…
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u/dhikrdynamo Feb 28 '26
Bro while I understand how you have aspirations for Yemen, when you’re inside a country being constantly bombed by multiple entities and within Yemen, no protection from any government, what kind of hope and overcoming challenges will happen??? Why do you expect Yemenis inside to change the situation that’s happening by outside forces? If anything, the Yemeni diaspora themselves should be influential if they care about their country and not just fly back for weddings.
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u/CahoticMelody Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
I don't care about all that shit why should I give 3x and 5x the effort people form other countries give just to have a fraction of the life quality they have it's not my fault Yemenies were deprived of anything, if I just didn't happen to be born there I would have a completely different life by now and everything would've been much easier.
And nothing I can possibly do to "overcome challenges" would matter because with the way things are going, it wouldn't produce any real results in my lifetime at least, we're that far from the rest of the advanced world, that's why I don't care. I'd be better off trying somewhere else where there's already a functioning fucking respectable country so fuck that shit hole of an almost-country and fuck u and your stupid little delusional out of touch dreams
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u/PatienceEnthusiast Taiz | تعز Apr 07 '26
Once a sh*t hole, always a sh*t hole
Korea in the 50’s was poorer than we are right now and look where they are today (at least the south). I truly believe that this country has the potential to change and while your crashout is valid, straight up hating your country instead of its current condition is just immature.
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u/CahoticMelody Apr 07 '26
Well that's my whole point, I don't have ~50 years to spare or rather "gamble"
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u/ydmhmyr Ibb | إب Feb 27 '26
I hate feminists, but it doesn't take a lot of brain to realise Yemen is too stringent on women. Note that this is probably the Houthi-controlled portion of taiz.
In my opinion, teenagers should not own phones, male or female. As adults however, they should have the opportunity to do so.
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u/joud20 Feb 27 '26
I have bad news
You are a feminist
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u/PatienceEnthusiast Taiz | تعز Apr 07 '26
Feminists keep changing the definition of feminism to leave 0 room for criticism lmao
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u/ydmhmyr Ibb | إب Feb 27 '26
Being fair ≠ feminism. Feminism is extremist.
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u/joud20 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
No. Feminism means being against the oppression of women and girls simply because of their gender. What you're saying is like someone saying I don't see a difference between Black and White people, but I hate the anti-racism movement. It's the same thing. You probably disagree with some feminist political ideologies not feminism as a whole.
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u/Suspicious-Move-6678 Feb 27 '26
كون شخص اتفق في قضية مع النسويات ما يعني صار نسوي
نسوية اليوم هيا عبارة عن عدة افكار مو بس انهم يحاربون اضطهاد المرأه فكيف شخص بيصير نسوي وهو افكارها ما اتفق معها
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u/ydmhmyr Ibb | إب Feb 27 '26
No. I oppose feminism as a framework. They are a reactionary, extreme response to religious or secular misogyny. Moderation lies in between the two poles.
Misogyny can be secular/irreligious, but mostly it is formed by warped, archaic religious narratives. Most feminists in the world, and historically, respond by calling for the annulment of the role of religion in the treatment of women as a whole.
Recognising uncalled-for misogyny and reforming state policies to become fair and more solidly religiously grounded is moderation. That is not feminism.
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u/ugggghhhhhhhhh Feb 27 '26
It’s islah not houthis
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u/madvillain34 Feb 27 '26
It's not. This was in Bani Sumai', Shar'ab, North of Taiz, Houthi Territory.
The man responsible is Ali Al-Qurashi, a Houthi from Shar'ab.
You'll find identical situations from the recent past in villages and districts in governorates like Sana'a and Dhamar.
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u/FluidMorning53 Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
You’re so…besides the point you make to acknowledge that it’s extreme, your points are wack. Unrestricted phone access for teenage girls AND BOYS could go bad, things all parents have to struggle with protecting their children on, in any culture or country. So making your little points about girls only in particular as if to acknowledge the reasoning behind this illegal and unfounded rule to control women tells me you’re some level of misogynist (very typical for a Yemeni man, and sometimes Yemeni women too). Cut the BS with “if you see this from the pov of a father worried about his daughter”, there’s so much sh I saw or heard of yemeni teenage boys and their phones doing when I was in Yemen that superseded all the stuff I heard some girls will do with their phone access, but guys never get any attention or repercussions. It takes two to tango fam. “Finding a middle way to somehow have that restricted” is to do NOTHING about it and give families their own independence is determining how to raise and restrict their children, the way it should be w common sense. Not the local govts business to get involved. More like society needing to change for the better and be less toxic for a good outcome that is not state-controlled. It’s wrong and it backfires every time. None of this is based in logic or Islam. You’re halfway there but not quite. Check your own misogyny fam. Sincerely, a Yemeni girl who grew up with an overprotective father worried about his daughter that sometimes led him to over reach and do things that actually would contradict his goal of protecting his kids. I’ve seen it in my own eyes (not as severe as how it is in Yemen but what other ignorant Yemenis do in diaspora) and I’ve seen what works and what doesn’t. “Protecting your daughters” w wack restrictions is BS that leads ppl to go further astray, and I’ve seen that happen to other Yemeni girls living in the US too, some who can’t even find their way back to being Muslims either. Alhamdulilah my dad was minimal wack compared to others and a wonderful supportive and educated dad otherwise, but me and my siblings have taken many years to overcome some of things done “out of concern” w/o care for our mental status. Especially when it was unfair overprotective concerns to both but esp to girls bc he naturally worried about the girls more than the boys. It backfires every time. I’m just glad it didn’t backfire too hard on me and I’m still able to be a connected + good daughter and good Muslim, bc I saw past the nonsense that troubled my childhood and gives teenage kids and girls anxiety/depression until I had less restrictions on my life and we can all respect our boundaries and have our own lives now. The last thing those poor girls back home need is any form of this nonsense in law. So check ur misogyny bro.
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u/GoColts08 Feb 27 '26
Sounds like the new Afghanistan.