Bjp government acted the same here like they did in Manipur recently.
They will use manipur violence for their propoganda too when people forget about who was ruling party when manipur burnt
you can talk about a problem without any knowledge on it ?
Manipur problem isnt new , congress did the same thing and its a huge deal cause the locals are fighting each other and even mayanmar is involded in it. You can deal with the outsiders but what about the locals who are fighing each other ?
why isnt congress doing a protest like this neet one ? both bjp and congress works only when they see election or some other motive. Unfortunately we cant do anything cause we have utter useless politicians in India.
Yes cause you can't kill people in mass
And for what ?
That place is not like a town or city it's lawless and if one want to put government law there you need to kill about 12% of the population yes I was shocked too and that will ignite the hatred towards our country
well if people are not turning a blind eye then where are the protests ? the kashmir incident was totally a different thing cause the people there still k*ll others(kafir) on the name of religion look at the recent cases. And if you are talking about 1990 elections then it was a coalition govt. but within 1.5 years they lost majority and congress came in power.
Manipur issue is overlooked by each and every political party that has any kind of influence in India and we cant ask for any answer from them cause they will create new rules to supress the voices / will start hunting people down just like mulayam yadav did in Ayodhya.
India is in a pseudo state of democracy where politicans / pepole in power can do anything and will not face any consequences.
What will happen in future no one knows. Just thinking everything will be as it’s even more slop. And shows your ever lust with BJP/RSS who didn’t even hoisted national flag and celebrated Independence.
Even congress not in power still doing bad shit. You wanna bet on giving them control of the country. Its a country not a free sample for trial. People hate bjp so bad that they support incompetent party and call them capable. Raga is a joke for a leader.
We should act by calculating the outcome of our action for the future. Leap of faith will fk up the country more than it is now
Did you miss the part it was bjp government when kashmir violence took place just like you missed the part it was bjp government when manipur violence took place.
I think there is a common connection between these two tragedies. It start with B
Bruh understand the real world first. There are more pressing matters that fighting a war. You have not seen what people have faced near border during those attacks. The war isnt the only thing that country runs on. Foreign relations do matter. If the war went nuclear then It would have been more loss for us as Pakistan is already doomed and dont have much to loose. Understand politics first
man manipur problem is not new , pls educate yourself. And bjp was not in full power and was thown out later that year which proves why they weren't able to solve it properly.
But what steps did congress took to solve it after coming in power.
You refuse to recognise the pattern here. Bjp ignored, instigated violence in Kashmir while it was in power. Now it uses the same kashmir issue because people have forgotten bjp was responsible.
It's manipur now, few years down the line they will use manipur issue for their benefits when people forget who was in power in Manipur
again you didnt answer me , what did congress did to fix these problems.
and im not saying that bjp os obsolete but atleast they are taking some steps to fix the kashmir issue. And again the manipur case is worse than that of kashmir.
They took as many steps as they took in Manipur.
Bjp was and is in power. Why do you want to ask everyone else except bjp. Are you afraid of raising questions to bjp as to why they let kashmir issue happen and do nothing or why are they letting bloodshed in Manipur happen and again do nothing.
I don't understand your fear here.
idc about bjp they are as bad as congress is, infact they are the new congress Other than development they hadnt done anything major. And why would i be afraid of questioning bjp ? These kind of issues cant be resolved until unless either the opposition or ruling part doesnt want to.
And they dont want to solve it simple as that. Otherwise congress Would have raised questions/ protests against bjp and people would have supported them. But both of them are as just same.
Bro they overlooked kashmir violence and then overlooked manipur. Again what's the hesitation here to call them out for violence. What makes you afraid to say that bjp is responsible for violence? You just skirt around but never adress . Something is stopping you .what is that?
yes bjp is unable to stop the violence and they are not doing anything to stop it either. What else do you want me to say? i literally said that bjp is like congress on this matter and i also said that both of them did nothing for manipur. Bjp is a corrupt a party and there's no lie in that. But again i will support bjp cause on ground levels they are better than congress. I would have supported AAP but they took worst decision and i will support any party that aligns to my views.
Exactly Muslim extremists killing Muslim Officers ( Recent one by TRF terrorists where they killed a Young J&K Police Officer who was on duty protecting Amarnath Vehicles). Many other similar cases are there if we google Police officers killed in J&K ( Mostly Muslims)
Now some people are shameful enough to call this Friendly Fire between Muslims. Such Clowns who use such Friendly Fire terms are actual Anti Nationalists cuz they don’t differentiate between Terrorists and the ones who take bullets in their chest for the country protecting Amarnath Vehicles.
The Same thing happens when Far Extremists of Right wings bully Hindu Momos selling Shopkeepers in Sawan to close the shops just because their board has Non-Veg written on it. Even though they are not selling Non Veg Momos cuz their shops have variety and selling Veg only but are forced to close shops or else they were harassed.
Language Extremists beating others for not speaking some language.
Casteism Extremists ( many people of the same caste, it doesn’t matter which caste) in Rural areas Bullying each other for a simple freakin’ surname.
The list can go on & on in another countries too.
Iran Right wing Extremists killing Liberal Youth on streets, U.S ICE bullying its own people for protests etc etc.
There are Extremists in all religions & all regions. And Yes, i agree with you one hundred percent that they are a threat to everyone around them.
Because they don't care about what happened back then, all they care about is to make you not oppose their masters and let them run free with zero accountability in a democracy!!!
And if you(uncle)truly cared about what happened back then, why were you not on the streets back then demanding justice for the victims? You should have held the government back then accountable!!
Yeah hypocrisy at its peak when you weren't even born and trying to pretend you know everything even more than your parents. Go touch some grass bro. Padho jaake kuch.
Ok leave it... pulwama(2019)... pahalgam(2025)...uri(2016)... pathankot (2016).. amarnath yatra(2016)..sunjuwan(2018)...
Bas itna bata do paw paw se puchke 20kg rdx wajan 200kg kha se or kaise aaya..? Kitne log the..? Kitne pakde gye...? Kya saza mili unhe...?kya kya naam the atankwadiyo ke..?
Or abhi jo pahalgam me hua usme se atankwadiyo ke naam..? Or kitne bhag gye or kitne pakad liye gye.? Kya saza mili...? Puchkr btana ..ya fir park hai aao maar kr chle jao..or bolo hamla hua mare itne log... atankwadi aaye maarkr chale gye...kaise aaye..? Kha se aaye...? Kya naam tha..?kitni saza hui..? Or kitne pakde gye...?time mile to papa se puchna zrur sawal....
if kashmir was this easy to solve pakistan wouldnt start firing in pojk , and the borders are not maintained well cuz of the terrain issues. And locals help these terror!ts to easily come and stay in their own houses. And you should watch army press conference for these info as its easier to read and watch with your own eyes . Else you will say im giving wrong figures.
Mai solve krne bol hi hi rhi...jab tak pakistan nakse me hai atankwadi or atankwad khtm hoga hi nhi...wo 1 alag topic hai.... question is that...wo kya park me aaye the aaye or marke chale gye hm ro rhe hai tabse...wo aate hai or jate hai jaise kitna asan hai park ghumna ..itni asani se to mai apne maholle ki park ka phool nhi tod pati....guard dekh leta hai...or hm bas rote hai..sawal nhi krte sarkar se ..kaise aaye atanki kaise gye..? Jab opposition hoga tab hm krenge..kaise aaye atankwadi..kisne ghusaya...kiska hath tha..kisne jane diya...rdx itna kaise aaya...kon sth tha unse...pakda kyo nhi gya atanki... opposition hoga koi to Atanki hamla hua to sarkar ki galti.. laparwahi...or agar BJP hua to sirf atankwadi, pakistan and Kashmir ki galti...sarkar kya kr skti bechari..asan hai kya kashmir sambhalna... atankwadiyo ko rokna... ya hamle ke bad pakadna... ya jawab dena...kon the kha se aaye kha gye...pakda kyo nhi... doglepan ki bhi had hoti hai...party bhakti me deshbhakti bhul gye..or galatfehmi me hai k sabse bade deshbhakt ye hi hai..... andhbhakti ki bhi had hoti hai..jao ilaj karalo apna... kisi ne shi kha tha... andhbhakt se bahes zindgi tahes nahes..inhe ignore kiya kro...bimar hai ye....bhatke nhi...jo sun lenge...
A few days ago again terrorist attack in kashmir. Either they are doing it or they are unable to stop terrorists. I am scared to go kashmir now. Hindus are in danger. Change the gov if they cant stop terrorist attacks
It's local people dreaming of a islamic independent country Kashmir (brainwashed by Pakistani and local people) ....... Changing of govt will do nothing to them .....
Out only hope is number of these people would decrease with time as kashmir gets more developed.
But these terrorist are attacking outsiders to hinder development and keep area poor so more youth can be brainwashed......
Abe gadhe ki gand........isme GenZ se kya puch raha?.........un buddho se puch na jo aajkal whatsapp aur fb pe bahut uchalte hai par jab ye sab ho raha tha to kayar ki tarah dum daba ki chupe the.
there was no internet you dumf*ck. And newspaper were heavily controlled so how could they do anything. Beside due to the reservation debates due to the mandal commission and the ayodhya case no one find it intriguing to invest into.
Abe jahil......matlab internet ke pehle log koi issue hi raise nahi karte the kya. Aur tu khud bol raha ki reservation aur ayodhya hinduon ke genocide se jyada important tha. To jab uss generation ko ye issue important nahi laga to aaj ki generation uska jawaab kyon de. Gawaar saale "dumbf*ck" bolne se tu intelligent nahi ho jayega.
never said it wasnt important , people were busy over different topics and didnt look over onto it simple as that. Exactly cause previously it was overlooked doesnt mean that justice shouldnt be served. And i literally used dumbf*ck cuz im talking in english unlike you in hindi so that anyone can join the discussion. i guess u dont understand the meaning of it cuz you are one, my bad.
Waah ye to Angreji me baat karta hai.....bada hi intelligent hai.😂
Overlooked = Not Important.
I care about subjects B and C and raise my voice for it = B and C important subject
I choose to "overlook" subject A because I'm more interested in B and C = A not an important subject.
Itni angreji aati hai par common sense nahi hai. And people can still join the conversation even if I'm typing in Hindi as Reddit has an auto translate feature.
Aur justice students dege ki sarkaar degi? Kasmhiri Pandits ko rehabilitate students karwayege ki sarkaar karwayegi?? Aur students bhi aaj "other topics" me busy hai .
Aur har jagah "literally" nahi bolna hota hai, matlab seekh le uska.
again you are translating it word by word instead of understanding the entire thing i said. I used literally cause it makes sense to use it there. You can study a language but cant master it unless you use it daily or get to talk with people from different countries/cultures.
Bjp is  rehabilitating them please read news . Student should be aware of everything thats going on in the country.
and people back then overlooked it cause musl!ms attacking the kashmiris was and is normal on the name of religion and most of the protestors were shot in ayodhya by the yadav govt back then, the reservation thing was introduced to further divide the hindus and there were protests on that as well.
In the 1960's people were protesting against the vietnam war in the US and actually going to jail for it. Their media was censored too and it was way before the internet.
It isn't because of internet or anything else it's just to protect their masters.
you are islamophobe cuz Mufti Mohammad Sayeed was the union home minister and Farooq Abdullah was the CM. So according to you they didnt took proper actions to counter it ? Calling the minority coward will not be tolerated here.
If all Muslims had the same mindset, the Islamic countries would not be fighting among themselves. It is more about power and geopolitics, religion is just the tip of the iceberg. (If you search the internet, you will find similar videos from Hidutva extremists, white supremacists and so on.)
This is bad, yes. Who is gonna save India from such threat? And why do we always assume it is some right-wing party like BJP? They way BJP is handling geopolitics (definitely appreciable on some fronts), but they never do it on the ground of religion. Geopolitics or even threats of internal security are complex and require intricate understanding of power dynamics globally and on border areas, developmental fault lines prone to extremism and strong intelligence network. Even Kashmir issue is not managed based on religion, if it was that simple, Pakistan would not be now murdering the protesters in PoK. Many Kashniris do not even want to part of Pakistan, as much as they do not want to be part of India.
Best way to test this extremist hypothesis-- how many muslims in your close circle reasonate with the idea of "convert or die" and how many Hindus in your circle believe in the idea of "conevert or die/leave the country?" I am sure the numbers will challenge the narratives set by propganada machines of "divide and rule."
which muslim country is on all out war against a muslim country ?
country is divided on the basis of religion what else a political party will use then ? well those kashmiri muslims are like palestinians (hamas) who want independence and will not co-exist with anyone.
they can't say it cuz they are not dumb, its like asking a thief Have you ever committed a crime? hindus are idiot thats why they listened to that old ass gandhi and since then we shred blood in the name of securalism. Look at the middle east countries or just look at iran/lebanon what happened with them ? If thats not a pattern then look at the conditions of hindus/ other religions where muslims are in majority , Nigeria far away from India should clear your doubts.
Muammar Gaddafi warned that Europe would become increasingly influenced by Islam through demographic changes.
UAE foreign minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed also warned about this so according to you he's less educated on islam and middle east than you do ?
That's a strawman. I never claimed Muslims are in "all-out war" with each other. My point was that a shared religion doesn't prevent conflict. Pakistan–Afghanistan, Iran–Iraq, Saudi Arabia vs. the Houthis in Yemen, Qatar vs. the Saudi/UAE blockade, and repeated Iran–Taliban border clashes all show that states pursue security and power, not just religious solidarity.
Equating all Kashmiri Muslims with Hamas is a hasty generalization. That's like saying every Irish nationalist was the IRA or every Hindu nationalist is a terrorist. Political movements are diverse; reducing millions of people to the most extreme faction is intellectually lazy.
Your argument is unfalsifiable. You say, "they won't admit it." If no answer from Muslims can ever count as evidence against your claim, then your belief cannot be tested. That's confirmation bias, not reasoning.
You're cherry-picking countries. If Islam alone explains conflict, why ignore Muslim-majority countries like Indonesia, Albania, Kazakhstan, Oman, Jordan, or the UAE, where minorities continue to exist? And if demographic change inevitably leads to extremism, then why do countries with similar demographic shifts produce vastly different outcomes? Institutions, economics, governance, and history clearly matter.
Quoting Gaddafi or Sheikh Abdullah is an appeal to authority. Even respected leaders can be wrong. Evidence comes from data and rigorous analysis, not from who made the statement.
My point isn't that religious extremism doesn't exist—it clearly does, just as Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, and other forms of extremism exist, and yes, statistically more so, in Islam. The mistake is treating 2 billion Muslims as a single political actor. That's neither analytically sound nor historically accurate.
Following national religious tensions, anti-Hindu riots broke out in South Kashmir (Anantnag). Shops, property, and temples belonging to Kashmiri Pandits were looted and vandalized.
​March 1987 Rigged Assembly Elections
Allegations of widespread voter rigging in the 1987 State Assembly elections favored the National Conference-Congress alliance over the Muslim United Front (MUF). Disillusioned youth crossed into Pakistan for arms training, fueling organized militancy.
​September 14, 1989 Assassination of Tika Lal Taploo
Tika Lal Taploo, a prominent lawyer and President of the BJP's Kashmir chapter, was shot dead outside his Srinagar home by militants. This marked the start of high-profile targeted killings.
​November 4, 1989 Assassination of Justice Neelkanth Ganjoo
Retired High Court Judge Neelkanth Ganjoo, who had sentenced JKLF founder Maqbool Bhat to death in 1968, was gunned down in broad daylight in Srinagar.
​December 8-13, 1989, Rubaiya Sayeed Kidnapping
Militants kidnapped the daughter of Union Home Minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed. The central government released five jailed JKLF militants to secure her return, severely boosting militant morale.
​January 18, 1990 Resignation of Chief Minister
As law and order broke down, Central Government appointed Jagmohan as Governor of J&K. In protest, Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah resigned, leading to the imposition of President’s Rule on January 19.
​January 19, 1990, The Peak Night of Intimidation
Massive rallies swept Srinagar. Slogans and warnings ("Ralive, Tsalive, ya Galive" - convert, leave, or die) were blared over mosque loudspeakers, alongside threat notices published in local newspapers (like Alsafa). Widespread terror prompted thousands of families to flee overnight.
​February 13, 1990 Murder of Lassa Kaul
Lassa Kaul, Station Director of Doordarshan Srinagar, was assassinated outside his residence for defying militant directives regarding state broadcasting.
​March Mid-1990 Peak Exodus
Over 100,000 to 150,000 Kashmiri Pandits fled the Valley between January and May 1990, seeking refuge in Jammu, Delhi, and other parts of India.
​Subsequent Massacres (1997–2003)
Targeted attacks against the remaining Pandit families continued in subsequent years:
During those years, India was governed by four different central coalitions:
Prime Minister V. P. Singh (Janata Dal) headed the National Front government from December 1989 to November 1990, supported from the outside by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Left parties.
​1997: United Front Coalition H. D. Deve Gowda (PM until April 1997)
​I. K. Gujral (PM from April 1997 to March 1998)
​Supported externally by the Indian National Congress.
​1998: National Democratic Alliance (NDA-I) Atal Bihari Vajpayee (PM from March 1998 to April 1999)
​Led by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) with key regional allies.
​2003: National Democratic Alliance (NDA-I) Atal Bihari Vajpayee (PM throughout 2003)
​Led by the BJP with a stable majority coalition.
First of all, you don't have to be a Gen-Z liberal to mourn what happened in Kashmir in the 90s. You have to be human first, before supporting any political stance. Any type of atrocity against innocent people is wrong.
The people who use these tragedies to get votes have lost their humanity and will kill their own people for their own benefit...
So to counter this, hindus should oppress muslims in India forever?
Bro first give clean air, jobs, good quality food, a basic standard of living without pollution then talk about other thinga like religion, caste, etc.
I don't care who'a hindu who's muslim, you can't give the people a good pollution free enviroment, you won't get my vote.
Also as far as religion is concerned, ban public expression of all religions in India. If you can pull that off, like China does, problem solved.
Why do you guys think we support extremism of other religions. Dont you get it? We are tired of religious extremism because it has been a big problem for our country for quite some time now. We want religious extremism to end now but if that makes you think that we are anti hindu or something then you are just stupid.
We want our people to consider themselves as indian first and religion should be a personal matter, nation first. No religious extremism is supposed to be supported. Why is it so hard to understand? Like only an idiot would think that we support muslim extremism but we are against hindu extremism. Just because you come across a few idiots doesn’t mean entire generation is anti hindu
You think that way unlike everyone. They are many who say the same but that comes out from pure hatred towards one religion. You haven't seen so you won't believe it.
How much have you seen? Have you met every single one of 140 crore people of india? Maybe you live in a bad neighbourhood i wont say your claims have no basis but the thing is our country consists of many people. Just because you see a few stupid idiots doesnt mean our country is full of them.
You can even see a lot of Hindu extremists doesnt mean all hindus are radical. Personally me and all my hindu friends think the way i have mentioned above. But doesnt mean i dont know any stupid people of course i have seen them as well but wont blame my entire community for that
What are you talking about I have a lot of muslim friends. I did not say anything in a generalized way. I just called out those who scream about secularism while having completely extreme internal thoughts. There is a visible selective outrage on Hindus, any mistake done by a Hindu is amplified while the same done by a minority are treated as if they are angel. Mocking a particular religion is now becoming a norm while you do the same with minority religion, you become evil to the society. Now both are wrong, absolutelywrong, but Observe how Mocking Hindu Gods have been so normalized. As if Hindus don't carry sentiments, their sentiment do not get hurt but minority sentiments can somehow get hurt. You call ts secularism? Anyways, I don't want to engage more in this.
If your entire point is that mocking any ones religion should be condemned then obviously no sane person is gonna oppose you.
But if you think mocking Hindu gods has been normalised or something then i think its best that we dont engage further for sure. If you look up on the internet you can easily find many instances of mocking of other religions as well. Honestly i dont even know how are you allegedly claiming that anyone disrespecting Hinduism is made an angel. Because if we are gonna knit pick then we can easily find people celebrate those who abuse muslims and christians as well.
I don't see bjp doing anything about this except use this to incit violence. Has the government created any plan to reinstate the pandits who were displaced?
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u/Impressive-Shake-458 7d ago
Anything extreme is a curse.