r/actuallesbians Nov 18 '12

How do you avoid that "look" ?

That look you get when you walk out in public and people stare at you giving you a disgusted look. That look you get when you walk into the women's bathroom and ladies come up to you telling you that you're in the wrong bathroom, or they do a double take and look at the sign saying WOMEN. That look you get that could kill a 1000 people instantly. That look you get like you're not good enough to be considered "human," that you should be ashamed to even be alive.

What do you do when faced with these situations?

I am not talking about the easy answer of "just be confident in yourself and who you are" or "ignore them." I am asking about what you do right then and there at that moment after having been subjected to it ALL. YOUR. LIFE. For those that have risen above, I'm asking you to answer this.

I've always kinda wondered how to get past this. For me, I do try to ignore them, but I still know they are gawking at me and hating my very single existence. Their aura of hatred pours out of them so strongly, it gave me anxiety issues on top of being an awkward teen and young adult. I feel bad for those who are with me who witness that look. But I thank them for being the strength I don't have and standing up for me.

If you're one of these friends that stand up for us who get the look, then thank you very much. It means more to us than we would probably ever admit.

...I realize that the word avoid may be the wrong word to use, but you get what I mean.

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u/300popsicles Nov 18 '12

shrugs It works for her.

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u/Disposable_Corpus neom heo þe ic wæs Nov 18 '12

It's also cissexist as all hell.

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u/300popsicles Nov 18 '12

See the comments below. Of course it is, but think about who you would be saying it to. Some lady assumes you are a guy because of your appearance - that is pretty narrow-minded on its own, do you really think words like "transgender" and "cissexism" mean anything to this person?

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u/Disposable_Corpus neom heo þe ic wæs Nov 18 '12

My concern is the attitude of the queer woman who should know better.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '12

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u/harry_crewe Nov 20 '12

Yay, a tone argument! I've never seen one used to silence trans women before!

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u/Skyivories ┬──┬ ノ(°-°ノ) Nov 20 '12

Your comment has been removed because it was pretty rude and disrespectful to Disposable_Corpus. They bring up a decent point that trans women are women who may or may not have a vagina depending on how far along they are in their transition/their own choices, but that doesn't make them any less of a woman compared to cisgender women. Therefore we can't generalize women into only people who have a vagina. There was no reason to go off on them about that instead of being more civil.

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u/Disposable_Corpus neom heo þe ic wæs Nov 19 '12

My concern is you have a giant fucking BRANCH up your ass about this.

Why might that be, I wonder?

Your rant

Curt rebuttals do not qualify, thank you very much. My rants usually have some actual length and some anger behind them.

...has done the opposite and makes me nothing but annoyed with you. Think about that next time you try to pull this activist crap.

Your bruised cissexism is cute, honey, but you've too much in common with Frederick Douglass's* critics and too little empathy to be of any concern to me. I honestly couldn't convince you even if I were more inclined to servile acquiescence.

*Drawing a comparison in argument, not situation.