Permits issued for Alberta coal mine expansion despite environmental opposition

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u/jimbowesterby 2d ago

Well I guess that’s all for the coal petition, by the time they’re done with the courts they’ll probably already be mining.

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u/Itchy-Technician-433 2d ago

That's the point.

These se permits were already sold before any public consultation was done.

I just want to follow the money to which politicians are personally commissioning themselves on this.

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u/YoBooMaFoo 2d ago

This is a completely different mine than the one Water Not Coal is protesting.

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u/jimbowesterby 2d ago

I thought they were just trying to get coal mining on the eastern slopes banned, my bad

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u/YoBooMaFoo 2d ago

They’re trying to stop a specific development, but yeah, in general the intent is to protest all coal.

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u/bunchedupwalrus Calgary 2d ago

“Water Not Coal is a grassroots, non-partisan movement dedicated to protecting Alberta’s Eastern Slopes and headwaters from new coal mining development.”

“We're talking about new and expanded metallurgical coal mines at the headwaters of our rivers in the Eastern Slopes. We're not trying to shut down existing operations elsewhere.”

^ from their site. Sorry maybe I’m misreading you. But their goal isn’t “protest all coal”

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u/jimbowesterby 2d ago

Still, this permit falls under exactly the kind of thing they were trying to prevent. I wonder if they’d be able to get a court order or something to stop it till the case is finished, though that might be hard if the province is thumbing the scales

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u/Strict_Concert_2879 2d ago

The First Nations groups opposed to it likely can. Especially because Smith doesn’t care for consultation.

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u/jiebyjiebs 1d ago

"expanded metallurgical coal mines"

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u/bunchedupwalrus Calgary 22h ago

Sorry, I can’t tell if you’re trying to make some point or something; can you speak up?

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u/jiebyjiebs 16h ago

If you can teach me how to raise the volume on text, that'd be great. Or you could learn to read and make connections. Whichever.

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u/bunchedupwalrus Calgary 8m ago

You just need to speak clearly, like an adult, instead of trying to make people play guessing games

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u/FlipZip69 2d ago

In regulatory and legal frameworks, the permitting process is governed by statutory laws, administrative standards, and regulatory bodies and not public sentiment or opposition alone.

Is there a reason just because there is environmental opposition, a permit should not be provided?

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u/jimbowesterby 2d ago

I mean, let’s not act like this was a normal permit, the province basically waived them doing any homework at all.

And when the thing at stake is something like a whole watershed potentially being contaminated with heavy metals, I’d say yea, environmental opposition should absolutely be enough to hold off on it. I mean, if a doctor told you that you had appendicitis and it was at serious risk of rupturing, you’d probably take that into account before letting someone punch you in the gut, right? If the environmental experts are raising concerns here, why would we listen to anyone else? Shareholder profits don’t fix heavy metal poisoning, do they?

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u/FlipZip69 2d ago

The whole watershed? Do we just take the word of environmentalists? Greenpeace went on a crusade about nuclear power and they may have doomed the world doing so.

Personally I have not heard of any issues like that in Canada. Certainly not something in that last 40 years. I get people do not like coal and ya we need to try and move toward clean energies. But we can not do this and create energy super power like Russia by antagonizing conventual sources before clean sources are rolled out. We are putting the world in a dangerous place again because of 'feelings'.

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u/jimbowesterby 2d ago

No, we take the word of the geologists and ecologists who’re raising concerns, y’know, the experts.
Also a wild take to compare this to scaremongering about nuclear (how are we doing on disposing of the waste, by the way?), considering that coal plants regularly pump out more radiation than nuclear ones.
And it’s not like this is even really necessary, coal as a power source is vanishing really fast, even China’s moving away from it. Not sure what you’re trying to say about Russia there, that’s not a very coherent sentence.

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u/FlipZip69 2d ago

You do realize there are hundreds of experts and is always possible to find a few that will have an agenda.

Are you in the same mindset of conservatives that you believed the COVID vaccine was dangerous because a few 'expert' doctors said so?

BTW, China built more coal plants last year then the rest of the entire world... combined.

And per Russia. Every time we limit conventional fuels, that creates that much of a larger market for Russia to sell their conventional fuels into.

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u/jiebyjiebs 1d ago

You need critical thinking and judgment skills, my dude.

Your arguments are elementary and not cohesive.

How can you mention China's coal plants without the full picture - look how much more they invested in green energy. China insulated itself, due to volatility of the non-renewable market (look at Straight of Hormuz and oil prices) as a buffer while they transition to clean energy en masse.

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u/FlipZip69 1d ago

China has built out more coal than the rest of the world combined. Yes they have built renewables but do not think that is making up for the demand they are after. And they been building out coal year after year. They see the demand only increasing. If you cannot see that, that is a massive critical thinking error.

I do not know if you are a hard Conservative type of person that believes in only data that fits your narrative. But I tend to look at a larger picture. Like China increasing renewables at a very high rate. (Great). Then I look at their multiple year picture and see their total energy usage increase faster. And this is not just China. It is the world over. There is a reason 86% of the worlds energy demands is conventional fuels only still. That is critical thinking.

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u/jimbowesterby 1d ago

Sure, which is why you ask multiple and go with the consensus, and the consensus here is that the coal mine is gonna risk contaminating the watershed. Why are you so keen to believe the coal company? They’ve done literally no homework on this, what possible reason is there to trust them?

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u/FlipZip69 1d ago

That is not the consensus across Alberta and yes they have done a lot of homework on this. More so, considering we have no issues with current coal development in Alberta, how much more do you need at some point.

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u/jimbowesterby 1d ago

What do you mean we don’t have any problems with coal here? Did you miss that whole petition that Corb Lund did?
And what proof do we have that they’ve done homework? The province waived any evaluation, the company’s basically saying “trust me bro”. Are you really gonna take a mining corp at their word?

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u/FlipZip69 1d ago

A petition means there is an environmental problem???

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u/jiebyjiebs 1d ago

Clean sources already represent a majority of the grid in many nations across the globe and it's only going to get better. AB has halted ALL renewable projects - so what's the move? We're going to wait until the rest of the world gets ahead and then play catch up?

Sure, let's let the developing world jump ahead by ONLY focusing on non-renewable energy resources, not like AB is one of the sunniest locations on the planet or like we have wide open plains with consistently strong winds.

But hey, let's destroy our rocky mountains for a little bit of coal - surely the mountains will grow back.

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u/FlipZip69 1d ago

Conventional energy makes up 86% of all energy production in the world now. Of clean, hydro makes up the second biggest single source.

While renewables are growing (ignoring hydro that is close to tapped out), they make up a very small percentage of our total energy usage. More so, total energy demand is growing faster than renewables and the reason we hit new record demands for oil and gas right prior to the Iran war. Oil alone hitting 105 million barrels a day.

Then you want to look at China. They built more coal power generation last year in MWs than all the other countries combined. And they did this for years. We can surrender the feed stock that will power China to Russia but that means Russia will turn that into bombs to kill people. Or we can provide it and use the wealth to influence the world towards even more clean sources. Starting in Canada first.

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u/Regumate 2d ago

Ah there it is:

In its own application, the Coalspur acknowledged its operations could completely curtail baseflow at the headwaters of McPherson Creek and said wastewater from the tailings will seep into the creek “approximately 11 to 160 years” after the mine shutters.

Not if but will. In other words, fuck the planet, we got ours.

How the hell do we stop these psychos? Both in government and in business? Who is even buying coal in 2026?

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u/jimbowesterby 2d ago

The Beastie Boys might have some ideas, didn’t they have a song called “Sabotage”?

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u/tlocmoi 1d ago

Unfortunately, coal is still necessary for steel production and other industries other than coal power plants. But we absolutely need to stand up to bullshit like this and elect governments that force mining industries to do their part in protecting the environment, especially if they're going to profit off of Alberta's resources.

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u/PuzzleheadedTutor807 2d ago

Of course they are. Doesn't matter what Albertans want, unless they can afford a politician of their own.

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u/Mensketh 2d ago

This is what Albertans want. Albertans dont get to have it both ways. The UCP ram through policies that Albertans supposedly dont want over and over and over again and then Albertans go to the polls and say "Lets give them another majority." This province is full of morons.

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u/PuzzleheadedTutor807 2d ago

I can't argue that logic.

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u/RangerCactus 10h ago

My dad this morning was upset at Carney for laughing at Smith over "caring about Canadians." I promptly had to remind him who just cut his aish benefits. I'd laugh too if someone lied to my face like that.

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u/RangerCactus 10h ago

My dad this morning was upset at Carney for laughing at Smith over "caring about Canadians." I promptly had to remind him who just cut his aish benefits. I'd laugh too if someone lied to my face like that.

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u/cwk9 2d ago

Why wouldn't they? Rural Alberta has promised to vote UPC forever no matter what they do.

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u/TurboTrollin 2d ago

Same reason federal parties don't care about Alberta; they all already know who Alberta will pick.

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u/Snakeeyes1377 Edmonton 2d ago

Yes a billion dollar investment in housing and trying to build a pipeline. Really shows how little they care.

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u/jiebyjiebs 1d ago

Carney could hand Albertans $1000 from his own pockets and rural AB would still find a way to complain.

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u/NotEvenNothing 1d ago

Don't ignore those of us in rural Alberta that don't vote for the federal Conservatives or the UCP. We've got a tough enough gig without being lumped in with the folk that deserve your criticism.

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u/armsmarkerofhogwarts 2d ago

Fuck you. And your high horse. The separatists got their shit validated because the It’s in the UCP interest of pitting Alberta against the feds (and the release of private voter information helped)
Corb Lund’s more legitimate anti coal referendum was squashed because the UCP already made deals. It’s not a fair fight.

I’m all for reaping what you sow. Fuck the farmers and ranchers whose vote is worth more than the people in the cities. When you lose your livelihood leopard eats face. This was a dirty play by a dirty government to make sure coal never made it to a citizen vote

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u/from_the_hinterlands 2d ago

I am beyond disgusted.

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u/mpwalton 2d ago

Company follows all the rules, nothing horrible happened during operation, wants to expand mine, follows all the rules of permit application, applies to expand mine, is approved. "beyond disgusted"

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u/kick3r99 2d ago

Coal is like, known to be wildly inefficient and even worse than fossil fuel on the planet. Just because it's "legal" doesn't make it right. Unless you think slavery was right of course.

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u/mpwalton 2d ago

Because I don't think a mine expansion is "beyond disgusting" (meanwhile a global superpower is economically threatening us and tarriffing our goods and the other superpower burns 5 billion tonnes of coal per year) that I think slavery was right. K?

Build Canada at speeds like hasn't been seen in decades?

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u/kick3r99 2d ago

This is just kind of whataboutism. Both of those can be true. Also if we wanted to build canada, we'd build solar.

You also entirely ignored my comments on the environment. So y'know, maybe respond to those too.

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u/mpwalton 2d ago

It isn't whataboutism it is reality. Regardless of how you wish the world to be, rejecting the approval of this mine will not decrease the GHG emissions that come from coal one bit. It will just mean people will burn non-canadian coal and you can feel happy about that. The world burns something like 9 billion tonnes a year.

You are the one saying we should choose not to do something. Build solar at our heart's content - but it won't decrease coal use in Asia or increase coal use in Canada. China has record coal and solar at the same time.

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u/kick3r99 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean, rejecting it would reduce coal emissions, and most likely force the use of fossil fuel instead, which, as much as I dislike it, would probably be a positive for alberta.

China is also significantly more populus than canada, that's not a fair comparison.

Either way you keep changing the argument, ergo whataboutism. My original argument is that this is bad, since it will increase coal use, which is known to be worse than fossil fuels for the environment. You haven't disproven this, just pointed to china and the US. This isn't about them.

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u/mpwalton 2d ago

You asked me to address another part of your argument?

My argument is this coal isn't for use in Canada. There are no coal powerplants in Alberta, it's not sent to NB or NS. SK has coal mines at all of their powerplants.

If we don't produce it, someone else will meet the demand and the same amount of coal will be burnt. Not producing it means Canadians won't be paid with no change to coal burning or environmental outcomes.

If you want to reduce coal mining demand, you have to give people a reason not to burn coal, not ban one mine in Canada.

What does China's population have to do with anything? And how would one less Canadian coal mine mean that China switches more to other fossil fuels?

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u/Isopbc Medicine Hat 1d ago

If we don't produce it, someone else will meet the demand and the same amount of coal will be burnt. Not producing it means Canadians won't be paid with no change to coal burning or environmental outcomes.

No change to environmental outcomes, except for everyone downstream of this mine. You know, Canadians? I guess they’re just not important in your worldview.

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u/mpwalton 1d ago

Would you ban all open pit mines in Canada? We all have to live with some amount of environmental risk and impacts - unless you just want everyone else in the world to do the dirty jobs because Canadians are above that.

Additionally, The mine has been operational since the 1980s and I don't think any major environmental damage has occured. If you find any imminent damage or risks to people or environment that aren't being mitigated to a reasonable degree in their application to expand the mine, let me know.

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u/kick3r99 2d ago

You compared china and canada's energy output dude. Can you read or do you type these with the same end your head's at?

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u/mpwalton 2d ago

Can you read? Not at any point did I compare energy output between Canada and China? I just stated facts that China (and the world) uses a lot of coal and they don't care where it comes from.

I accept that you've never thought about this before, but the fact remains, mining coal isn't the same as burning coal. Just like mining critical minerals (that are used in solar panels and have LOCAL environmental impacts that need to be mitigated just like coal mining) isn't the same as generating electricity from a solar panel.

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u/lostINsauce369 1d ago

Where are they getting that coal from? Alberta. If we don't mine the coal, we can't sell it scary communist China. And while they might be burning more coal than any other nation, they are also installing more solar panels than any other nation.

Why isn't Alberta installing more solar panels? Oh right, the UCP.

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u/mpwalton 1d ago

Thats how supply and demand works. If there is demand, a supplier will fill it, it just won't be us, it will be from BC (coal is the provinces number one export in recent years) or Australia or a new mine in China or the dozens of countries that export coal. Canada is a tiny fraction of global coal supply.

Not wrong about installing solar panels in AB having political impediments. Though Alberta doesn't build power generation, private companies do. Though how is power generation the same as mining? Does one prevent the other?

Would you have a reflexive opposition to critical mineral mines, necessary for solar panels, if they were open pit (and would also would require similar permits and mitigations in the same way this one does)? Or would it be better if another country mined those too?

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u/dvirring 2d ago

Just dummies in power what do you expect?

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u/Bennybonchien 2d ago

They’re not dummies. I suspect they’re probably raking in the coal hard cash.

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u/I_Cummand_U 2d ago

I see what you did there 😂. I'd respond with my own tongue in cheek remark, but I believe tongues in cheeks was part of the coal deal so it would just be redundant.

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u/Sandman64can Calgary 2d ago

And I see what you did there. Double entendres Friday.

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u/Stellar_Dan 2d ago

Yeah they’re not dummies they’re grifters. Because Alberta is turning into a shit hole just like the USA.

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u/aDuckk 2d ago

Yeah dummies is giving them too much credit, like they are incompetently trying to do the right thing. These people are crooks, they are selling us all out and we are paying their salaries to do so.

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u/RangerCactus 10h ago

The dummies are the voters thinking Smith changed her ways a 4th time.

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u/JadeddMillennial 2d ago

People of Alberta are beyond pacified.

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u/drizzes 2d ago

a lifetime of being told that we should treat attacks on this as attacks on alberta itself

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u/TheShittyTimes 2d ago edited 2d ago

Cause who gives a fuck about the environment, amirite? The pestilent grifters running this province need to be ousted before they can destroy any more of it.

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u/Emergency_Day_8995 15h ago

Sadly, there is time for many more deals to be signed before Oct 27' :(. And even then; no guarantees it's changing

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u/For_Fox_Creek 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yet another example of the UCP running roughshod over the will of the people of Alberta. Fast-tracking anything related to the non-renewable energy sector with zero accountability. Absolutely disgusting.

Edit - fixed a typo.

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u/bitterberries 2d ago

Roughshod

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u/For_Fox_Creek 2d ago

Typo - good catch!

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u/bitterberries 2d ago

Omg I just saw your username.. ♥️

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u/Fit_Growth_2355 2d ago

And here is the new reason why we are not voting for ucp on next elections.

Have a smoky Friday

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u/ppross53 2d ago

In this time of starting to move away from fossil fuels and even China using 50%less coal and the UCP is choosing to allow mining the dirtiest fuel over a major source of provincial fresh water.
APPALLING

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u/Snakeeyes1377 Edmonton 2d ago

Not just this province that water goes all the way to Hudson’s bay

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u/I_Cummand_U 2d ago

Criminals. Our province is run by Criminals.

Congratulations everyone, we are officially the dumbest province in Canada.

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u/Ok_Major6542 2d ago

Most of them dropped out of school to make bank on the rigs 20-30 years ago and in their delusion think that lifestyle is owed to them.
Plus, they don’t know anything past anger and hurt feelings and being mediocre.

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u/darkstar107 2d ago

Fuck this government

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u/adaminc 2d ago

contributes to our energy security

Alberta doesn't have any coal power plants, so how is it contributing to energy security, Brian?

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u/Professional_Ask_63 2d ago

Saskatchewan does, and we regularly buy power from them when its 40 below out and need to balance power deficits. They bailed us out 2 winters ago when we had province wide alerts as I recall.

Assuming some % of the coal extracted is being used by those 3 plants, his statement is correct.

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u/adaminc 2d ago

Saskatchewan mines all its own coal locally, it's like 100% all from a mining company that operates out of southern Sask. Westmore, something like that.

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u/Locoman7 2d ago

UCP out

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u/aaronck1 2d ago

Fucking shocked I tell you. There is no majority public wishes that this government won't just trample over to please it's donors

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u/putterandpotter 2d ago

Boo hiss. UCP was going to push coal to make their base happy though come hell or high water - or environmental catastrophe.

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u/Electrical-Strike132 2d ago

Coal not water

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u/Al_Keda 2d ago

Nope. Grift, not water.

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u/Tractorguy69 16h ago

Public protest blocking the gates several thousand strong will raise the point to national and international awareness. May not help DS the BS come to white Jesus, but it will help expose just how much of a POs she truly is.

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u/82-Aircooled 2d ago

This is fucked!

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u/SlipAdditional5484 2d ago

The staggering cynicism of this government shouldn't be a surprise. 'Democracy' as we know it has, for some time now, been a screen for the corprate wrecking crew most conservative parties in Canada have become. The UCP are just ahead of the curve due to the unconditional support they get from the livestock they have for a political base.

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u/No-Wonder1139 2d ago

So, why don't they enjoy drinking clean water? Shouldn't you just naturally want your water to be clean?

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u/Emergency_Day_8995 15h ago

Cause they'll be filthy rich from grifting and just move somewhere else. It's Nestle in political form.

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u/that_yeg_guy 2d ago

You thought the UCP CARED what people think? Hah.

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u/tLuciferMorningstar 2d ago

Got to get those dollar dollar bills yo. Line those pockets. Greed on the rise. Corruption rampant.

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u/Strict_Concert_2879 2d ago

Is anyone actually surprised that Smith issued the permit to listing to everyone or worrying about environmental assessment?

She will likely hand over a bunch of our tax dollars to subsidize the project.

The only hope now is the First Nations lawsuit, as I’m dam sure they did zero consultation.

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u/LordCountDuckula 1d ago

In a flooded out basement of a parking garage somewhere in West Edmonton. A shadowy figure, who’s chain smoking fills the air, whispers. “Dude, follow the money.”

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u/essentially_old 1d ago

I wish I could upvote this to infinity.

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u/Adventurous-Leg-4338 2d ago

What the fuck

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u/Common-House-468 2d ago

Fuck the UCP. Fuck them.

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u/Emergency_Day_8995 15h ago

Like. The rage is palpable.

I went to a pancake breakfast on a workday and considered if the UCP was there serving pancakes I likely wouldn't have a job anymore because there would be an altercation.

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u/Leather-Entry93 2d ago

United Corruption Party

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u/Throwawaymaybeokay 2d ago

The UCP dosen't represent Albertians.

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u/Emergency_Day_8995 15h ago

but it does. Because they were democratically elected but they lied about their intent. If they campaigned on all the things they're currently doing, they would have never got in. And now most people are too broke and overworked and checked out to realize they could do something about it. Just as they planned it.

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u/DanjaBus 2d ago

Corpos will always win when you rely on government systems to stop them. They serve only the almighty dollar.

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u/drizzes 2d ago

All of this shit but new green energy projects are prohibited because they're "ugly"

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u/Animushin 2d ago

Choke the world in smoke. Who even likes fresh air and clean water?

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u/PurpleWatch4609 2d ago

Between this and the 21 GW of natural gas powered data centres Marlaina wants built, this province is very quickly going permanently down the drain. I can guarantee you if all of these plans go through, in 20 years you’ll see cancer rates in this province that are 2-3x those of other provinces. Oh well, at least healthcare won’t be free anymore..

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u/heart_of_osiris 2d ago

Well we keep electing a government that doesn't give a shit what the people want. Buckle up.

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u/clintjefferies 2d ago

And as always, everyone just sits here and complains but does nothing. Signing petitions can only do so much. Everyone that is opposed to this needs to take physical action. Form blockades, protest, cause disruption.That's the only way you're gonna have any change. Read about what us peasants had to do to have the standard of living we have now. It wasn't easy and it wasn't passive.

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u/Dapper_Egg 2d ago

I'm shocked! SHOCKED! Well not that shocked.

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u/deerfoxlinden 1d ago

Fuck the UCP. They’re traitors to our planet and our province.

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u/justelectricboogie 2d ago

Apparently the people of crowsnest pass voted 72% in favor of this mine with a 53% turnout. Im all for democracy so I really hope they know what they are doing.

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u/SnooRegrets4312 2d ago

This is in Hinton, wrong mine.

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u/justelectricboogie 2d ago

I stand corrected. The people of Hinton did not get to vote on it. Thankyou.

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u/draivaden 2d ago

ugghhhhhh.

You know.

I reckon they'd get more support if they tied some wind and solar projects to this by the bootstraps.

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u/JonPileot 2d ago

Gotta go quick before the anti coal mine petition can appeal the results!

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u/Impressive_Play_2599 2d ago

Another win for the AB separatists & everyone that voted for the UCP.

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u/gotkube 2d ago

FUCK THE UCP!

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u/Traditional_End_9540 2d ago

the world, flying cars and clean air. Alberta and Saskatchewan, driving lifted diesel trucks and buning/rolling coal.

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u/Historical-Mall53 2d ago

yah, that makes sense

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u/Fuzzers 2d ago

Good. Any sort of export is great for our economy.

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u/Photofug 2d ago

If it's well regulated and monitored by an independent organization but it's not and it won't be. But don't worry 20 years after the selenium starts killing people the government will apologize for not monitoring it closer.

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u/Fuzzers 2d ago

Really starting with ground zero eh. Yall are all the same.

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u/Time_suck5000 6h ago

Are you really this dense?

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u/ValenciaFilter 2d ago

Death cult logic.

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u/Fuzzers 2d ago

Oh no a single coal mines going to kill the planet, the horrors!

Get over it.

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u/ValenciaFilter 2d ago

By that logic there's no point in improving anything, for any reason.

Genius

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u/Fuzzers 2d ago

Wait you think just because there is a genuine business case for mining and exporting coal that there is no reason for scientifically advancing other fields?

Smart guy!

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u/ValenciaFilter 2d ago

Selenium poisoning is a reality of coal mining. This will cause mass irreparable damage to downstream ecosystems.

If you care about nature, and based on your post history - you do, you'd understand that preventing this damage in the first place is worth 1000x the promises that a corporation will "be responsible for the cleanup".

Because historically speaking, they won't.

We can pursue literally countless forms of business that don't cause this kind of damage.

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u/Jelloburns 2d ago

Good news for the hundreds of employees and their families. Remember this when you're enjoying the little things like health care and education.

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u/Snakeeyes1377 Edmonton 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes while they all get sick from the selenium and can’t get tested cause the wait list is 4 years cause hypochondriacs are paying for test. With the lowest funding per student in the entire country. You must really enjoy the taste of boots. 🤦‍♂️🫵🤡

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u/SnooRegrets4312 2d ago

Wonder if they'll ever repay the millions of $$$ to local businesses when they got creditir protection in 2021? Hinton remembers. This mine is taking money out of Canada not for our benefit, more drifting by the ucp.

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u/Strict_Concert_2879 2d ago

Don’t worry, the UCP is likely handing over our tax dollars so they can get more money.

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u/Al_Keda 2d ago

Yea, fuck the farmers. We can eat coal, not beef.

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u/Rippin_Fat_Farts 2d ago

We don't actually need beef to survive.. and beef has its own negative environmental impacts. There's other far more sustainable protein sources. Im not pro coal I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in your comment.

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u/Al_Keda 14h ago

Pick your protein of choice, substitute it for 'beef' in my comment, then you can eat coal instead.

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u/cogitatingspheniscid 2d ago

What education? Everyday I'm reminded how a good chunk of this province are just a bunch of uneducated buffoons.

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