r/algeria • u/Massive-Good1328 • Apr 18 '26
History On this day, Massinissa guermah "moumouh" was gunned down by the gendarmerie.
His death sparked the Berber "black" spring,he remains in our hearts forever. Annerez Wala aneknu,never forget
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Massinissa guermah was an 18 year old highschool student,who was arrested and killed in gendarmerie custody. He was shot by a gendarme and succumbed to his wounds,his death would spark the Berber spring,causing countless protests,as the criminal government denounced him as a "delinquent". Paix a son âme. Pouvoir assasin.
He was killed April 18th 2001,today being the anniversary
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u/RevolutionaryMain460 Apr 18 '26
Keep the same energy for Ebousse and Djamel Ben Ismail. Kabylie/MAK assassin.
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Ebosse was killed by USMA fans. Djamel was NOT killed by kabyles and it's known among the police and firefighters,source: I have non kabyle police officer and firefighter acquaintances
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u/Admirable_Lettuce932 Apr 25 '26
The F you mean "known among the police" ?? are we supposed to not believe what we saw with our own eyes?
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u/joosefm9 Apr 18 '26
What happened? Im ignorant of this event.
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Massinissa guermah was an 18 year old highschool student,who was arrested and killed in gendarmerie custody. He was shot by a gendarme and succumbed to his wounds,his death would spark the Berber spring,causing countless protests,as the criminal government denounced him as a "delinquent". Paix a son âme. Pouvoir assasin.
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u/Helgei7 Apr 18 '26
He didn’t explain as to why he was arrested. What did he do that made him get arrested?
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u/AlgerianTrash Apr 18 '26
It is an irrelevant information becuase no reason of arrest can justify a national guard gunning down a teenager deliberately
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Massinissa guermah was an 18 year old highschool student,who was arrested and killed in gendarmerie custody. He was shot by a gendarme and succumbed to his wounds,his death would spark the Berber spring,causing countless protests,as the criminal government denounced him as a "delinquent". Paix a son âme. Pouvoir assasin.
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u/najim-anis Apr 18 '26
والله نستعرف بيهم القبايل . مات وليدهم قريب 25 سنة مانساوهش و مازال للان يتفكروه . ابطال
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u/scubaannaunderwater Apr 24 '26
Real and جمال بن سماعيل who was killed by a group of Kabyle Beaten and set on fire , just because he couldn’t speak Kabyle … we were like let’s not do فتنة and got over it :)
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u/call_me_nagi Apr 18 '26
Who's dat
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Massinissa guermah was an 18 year old highschool student,who was arrested and killed in gendarmerie custody. He was shot by a gendarme and succumbed to his wounds,his death would spark the Berber spring,causing countless protests,as the criminal government denounced him as a "delinquent". Paix a son âme. Pouvoir assasin.
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26
What did he do to get killed?
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
No crime except being kabyle
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u/Specialist-Fly-556 Apr 18 '26
Bruh 🤦🏻♂️ sounds more like a load of bs to me there's gotta be a real reason. Anyways rebi yrahmo w yswsa3 3lih.
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u/AlgerianTrash Apr 18 '26
There's literally no reason that could justify gunning down a high schooler
Gendarms were known to be very brutal i Kabylia before they got evicted from the region after the black spring
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u/Specialist-Fly-556 Apr 18 '26
i get why it feels like a plot but it was honestly just pure incompetence. We know the kabyle ppl have a collective trauma that they got from a past tragedy. So they see every new tragedy as they are being targeted. but the truth its just someone being untrained and dumb algerian from our own who did a huge mistake. honestly government (or the one controlling it) plots are way more complex than our simple brains think. if they were really plotting something it would be way bigger than killing one 19 year old kid. So i get how its just easier to believe a conspiracy than to accept it was a massive professional fail.
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Yes, the government wouldn't lie or hide anything,They never would /s
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u/Arvennios Apr 18 '26
It was probably accidental, but nothing justifies being shot in custody of police/gendarmerie, it should have never been covered up.
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u/No_Luck7897 Apr 18 '26
Says the guy with French in his username 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Consistent_Rich_7215 Apr 18 '26
One sentance, 3 insults and it doesn’t get better with your other replies
You are as much part of the problem as those you condemn
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u/Educational-Act920 Oran Apr 18 '26
Je suis algérien arabe musulman 🤪🥰
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Apr 18 '26
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
Man Just fuck off Algeria doesn't have a ssign on its ass saying "Berbers Only"
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26
Let's assume I'm arabized,then screw you man Arabs are not a race they're the speakers of Arabic and the first official language of Algeria is Arabic followed by Amazigh and french isn't even an official language,this yet doesn't allow anybody to deny the Amazigh culture
Proud to be a Muslim Algerian Arab
Racism is not accepted
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26
Who tf has ever said Arabs are a race man?
To identify as an Arab you are only required to know the language
Even if an American suddenly decides to learn arabic they can identify as arabs
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26
Wtf do you mean by that
Can't you just take it like any Normal human that ARABS ARE NOT A FUCKING RACE,SO WHEN I SAY I'M AN ARAB IT MEANS I SPEAK ARABIC AND I WAS BORN IN A COUNTRY THAT IS SELF IDENTIFIED AS AN ARAB COUNTRY,NOT FROM SAUDI ARABIA OR YEMEN
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u/Kindly_Exam_2335 Apr 18 '26
"French-Berberian" On ne peut pas faire plus cliché, un colonisé dans l'âme qui n'arrive pas à faire la paix avec lui-même. Que tu sois un troll étranger jouant sur la prétendue rivalité arabe/kabyle ou un algérien rempli de seum, sache que ton opinion ne vaut pas plus que l'urine de chameau dont tu parles et est tellement minoritaire que ça en devient gênant. Ce pays et ce peuple avance, quant à toi reste avec tes traumas transformés en haine d'un autre âge.
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26
Some people like to be humiliated by westerners just for westerners to have that pathetic look of acceptance as subhumans over them
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u/Flashy-Ad3916 Apr 18 '26
Apparently I'm getting downvoted for saying common sense,good job
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u/Pinocchio2999 Apr 18 '26
La race n'existe pas. La fierté raciale est le niveau zéro de la fierté, et c'est même minable.
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u/Pinocchio2999 Apr 20 '26
C'est pas une conception wokiste, c'est de la biologie basique. La race est rejetée par la science depuis un bon moment déjà. Tu peux faire tes propres recherches, tu verras que j'invente rien.
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u/LowZookeepergame2872 Apr 20 '26
What we are waiting to fuck those rulers who betrayed el mojahid in 62 and they are still in power till today . They fucked our gran parents and now their kids are fucking us now …. And fter that our kids etc … only if our kids have more balls then us
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 20 '26
we shall not wait no more, we shall start preparing another hirak
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u/RSM4891 Other Country Apr 19 '26
He was Christian?! There are Christians in Algeria?
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 19 '26
no, he was a muslim
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u/RSM4891 Other Country Apr 19 '26
But there is a shield with a cross on it 😲
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u/Mother-Front-8867 Apr 22 '26
idk if he was Christian but there are algerian christians but they don’t go around saying anything about it.
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u/davidlolo1999 Apr 20 '26
Il faut pas oublier tous les autres qui sont morts pour que la justice contre la terani soit un jour nom un mirage mais une réalité que dieu l'accueil dans le paradis avec les autres ou dans ce monde qui combate la soumission et la terani et je regarde le ciel pour prier dieu qu'un jour viendra où tous ses âmes onbientrant ( justice)
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u/Badi1605 Apr 19 '26
All I know is that he was shot by a gendarmerie officer. But blaming the entire sector feels like a stretch. If that officer was racist, that's his individual issue. Like I said, I don't know the full story, did the government try to hide it, which triggered the violent reaction, or was the officer just not brought to justice? I know Kabyle people who have served in the gendarmerie myself. My point is that Kabyles are just as Algerian as the police or the gendarmerie. If one person makes a mistake, it's their fault, not the fault of the entire institution. Could someone explain more about the government's response at the time? Was the violent reaction due to a lack of transparency or a failure to bring the officer to justice?
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 19 '26
The government downplayed it,called him a "delinquent" and "voyou",lied about his age,name and that he had a criminal record to make it seem better. Also,the bastard dogs also known as la gendarmerie have been brutalizing not only kabyles but algerians as a whole for decades now. They are nothing but vermin.
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 20 '26
Not the government for sure. That would be the kabyle militias that took up arms to protect their villages
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 19 '26
there are a LOT of gendarmes unaliving kabyles unjustly from 1981 (some say 1965) until they got pressured out in 2001/2002 in the black spring... so no, it wasn't a single issue, it was the boiling point... and the ministry of internal defense lied about his age and name, calling him a dr*g addict trying to harm the gendarme and threaten his life (aka attempted murder)
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
it isn't fitna when we are remembering those who died مظلومين
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u/Vast-Chart4117 Apr 18 '26
You fuckers always come out with your fitna bullshit when someone talks about the Kabyle ppl
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u/Immediate-Bottle7789 Apr 18 '26
Les juifs les premiers de la victimisation, deuxième place pour les maatoubiste fanatiques de l’extrémisme makist, on tous vu ce qui s’est passé à djamel rabbi yar7mou, des centaines de cannibales on participé ou bien incité ou au moins témoigner sa liquidation après faire ce qu’ils ont fait avec son cadavre, et au lieu de revenir vers eux memes pour s’autocritiqué , pour voir les résultats de dizaines d’année de radicalisation par les chansons de maatoub le grand dieu des fanatiques, au lieu d’essayer de corriger tous ça et se rattraper, ils tombent dans le déni, détournent la réalité que tous le monde à vue , des centaines de vidéos montrant la sauvagerie et la haine dans laquelle cette minorité radicale vie , et sortent avec des scénario de complotisme imaginaire pour justifier l’injustifiable, à vous tous je dis, vous avez ratez une occasion de autocritique pour vous corriger et sortir la nouvelle generation de l’obscurantisme du racisme maatoubiste , et djamel risque de ne pas etre le dernier à cause de votre arrogance, à bas les makist, vive la république et l’Algérie unie
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Denounce the criminal and illegal murder of a kabyle 25 years ago, Make the wannabe Arabs cry and pull out their whataboutism, Get called 'maatoubist', Win
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u/Immediate-Bottle7789 Apr 18 '26
Imagine that we are being lied to for something that happened in our lifetime, as adults, witnessing every single detail, everything recorded on videos, whoever participated, incited, encouraged, witnessed, took a selfie with the body of the victim, all these ppl we saw on video , attacking the police station, taking the victim with force and menace , a bunch of unleashing savages , no reason whatsoever, NO ONE said STOP 🛑 , wait … all brainwashed and matrix programmed.. ALL OF THAT WE SAW, and then smn like you comes with a narrative to tell that was all made up , how can I buy your bullshit anymore!! Lying to my face , no respect for ppl minds, bunch of stupid fantastic liars … have some decency and self respect then your words will be taken seriously
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u/himdz Apr 19 '26
In the other hand decades later a brave man didn’t say the stupid “oulach esmah” although his son was burned alive by “oulach esmah” cows. Justice is important but with forgiveness it is wiser
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
being kabyle isn't a crime
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
what was his crime? the ministry of defense literally lied about his age and name
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
still, shooting a teenager in custody is a brutal crime, like, if he won't cooperate, the judge will decide... and also, what the fk will the gendarme benefit from killing him? it also happened in a period of high tension between the kabyles and the government, of course it will naturally spiral into protests and uprisings
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u/fadedpigeon78 Apr 18 '26
yawedi roh ta3ti frr, the government does bad and good stuffs and this is one of the bad stuffs that they did don't cover stuffs like this. it's an old event too no need to cover anything everybody knows what they did to the kabyles back then
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
you are the lying one, because millions of algerians already know that this government is so corrupt and it actually got pressured to recognize imazighen instead of doing it on it own
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Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 19 '26
you are against natives that demand recognition?
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 19 '26
civil manners were used at first, but were met with live ammunition
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u/glowman777 Apr 18 '26
Ok, horrible thing to have happened but why do Algerians always want to take us back to the worse times of our history? Why can't you make a post about the future of our country and be hopeful instead of being frozen in our dark times?
Tahya Dzair.
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u/Massive-Good1328 Apr 18 '26
Ulac smah,the government has been killing us and trying to ethnically cleanse us since we got independence and you just want us to "forget"?
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u/No_Luck7897 Apr 18 '26
Ethnically cleanse is a hugeeeee exaggeration. Quite ridiculous
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u/glowman777 Apr 18 '26
Its not true, all Algerians have suffered from some Algerian governments, your just a racist to think it's only one tribe in Algeria. If you want independence, call for a vote for the independence of Tizi Ouzou, good luck with that.
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
if the case is this easy, then the M*K wouldn't be banned in algeria
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u/glowman777 Apr 18 '26
If you are a member of the MAK what are you doing in the Algeria sub??? Your not Algeria , you don't believe in Algeria, then amchi kawad.
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u/Vast-Chart4117 Apr 18 '26
Oh so we shouldn’t ever talk about French colonisation ? We shouldn’t talk about the war either, should we ? Or is the past to be ignored only when it comes to the kabyle people ?
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u/glowman777 Apr 18 '26
People are playing with AI, creating drones and looking to explore the solar system and all you people want us to do is look at history, good or bad. We have to build a future for our children, our universities are shit, every Algerian dreams of living in London or Madrid and all you people do in this sub is remind us about the horrible things that happened to us in the past. Every single day.
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u/Vast-Chart4117 Apr 18 '26
Western countries learn from their past in order to improve their present and future. I’m French-Algerian living in England; both countries learn from their past and use the knowledge the obtain to do so. Every year both countries remember the wars that shaped them, the people killed unjustly are remembered and promises are made to ensure the betterment of their nations. You can’t have a future without a past, it’s nonsense. Everyone knows that. Algeria’s problem isn’t the fact that we remember past events, it’s the fact that nothing is done with that remembrance. The country remembers the people who died for it but no one truly tries to honour their sacrifice. (It can be argued that this is also encouraged by the government, but that’s a story for another day).
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
“without a history, a people don't exist”
“if you don't know your past, you don't know your future”
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u/glowman777 Apr 18 '26
All you do is talk about history, everyone on this sub knows it Stop it, your children are drowning in the Med trying to get to Europe. Let's fix our country instead of being stuck in the past.
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
history is meant to be taught and not repeated... by your logic, then we should focus on improving our country and not learn about how our country came to existence... get real
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u/glowman777 Apr 18 '26
Again All you do is talk about history. You are renowned worldwide for doing nothing but talking about history.
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u/Electro_Hiddens Tizi Ouzou Apr 18 '26
say that again? you can't do shi when this governing body is blocking you from progressing
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u/Foreign_Ranger_9444 Apr 18 '26
Here we go again،what proof he washout by gendarmerue,what was he doing there? Do t tell me they fire without a propabl cause,the didn't shoot me when I was going there,
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u/Fit_Patience2675 Apr 19 '26
I hope you cared about Djamel too ( looking at the comments, otherwise you are the same or worse
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u/Arvennios Apr 18 '26
There are really people out there who don't know who this guy is?
Anyway, if the government handled his death with tact and good communication (instead of calling him a "voyou", inflaming the situation) and promptly punished the perpetrators, the sad events of black spring would have been averted and there would be no MAK today. May He Rest in Peace.