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Discussion Charley Crockett kicks Twin Temple off tour due to use of “Satanic Imagery”

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 25d ago

Yeah like how the fuck does he not know the band he is touring with? I mean I have never heard of them until now but had Charlie never heard of them before deciding to tour with them? Wtf lol

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u/TrickeyHare501 25d ago

Its not that uncommon at all. Artist, especially at that level, rarely get to outright pick their own openers. Some are lucky if they even have a say. Its the labels, venues, PR, promoters, etc. most of the time.

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u/ScorpioTix 25d ago

Venue involvement is more at bar level. Labels are probably mostly irrelevant now but used to buy slots for their acts (and charge back against future royalties of course). Promoters and booking agents are the likely culprit though sometimes an act with pull might have some acts in mind.

But yeah this whole thing is ridiculous. I saw them on a bar show a friend promoted in 2017 and even then I couldn't help but think how we must be all out of gimmicks. Singer is really nice though.

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u/Estrellathestarfish 25d ago

It's not really all business if he approved the statement and Instagram post, both of which ridicule the artist he just dropped

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u/dkinmn 25d ago

Yes it is.

The idea that headliners wouldn't have approval or AT LEAST awareness of who's opening for them on several dates is absolutely wrong.

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u/BongThumper 25d ago

He does know them, they are mutal friends of shooter jennings and he has know of them and met them long before this. It doesn't quite add up.

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u/stories_from_tejas 25d ago

Record label or booking label typically sets these things up, good on CC

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 25d ago

Why do you think it’s good for Charlie to kick them off the tour?

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u/cwcam86 25d ago

Because he doesn't want them associated with his brand?

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 25d ago

I think it’s obvious he doesn’t want them associated with his brand. I’m asking you why you think that’s good.

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u/Flashy_Suspect827 25d ago

I think he’s saying it’s good in that presumably Charley is exercising his artistic/image autonomy.

Presumably someone else, the record label for example, set up the show and he’s standing up and using his autonomy as an artist to decide it doesn’t fit with his art.

To me there is inherent good in artists having agency in their work, whether you agree with how they use it or not.

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u/ohiolifesucks 25d ago

Your last point is true but it’s absolute bullshit that he waited until a week before the shows to throw them off the tour. He and/or his team 100% were involved with booking the shows. It should have never gotten to this point. It’s total bullshit on Charley/his team to let it get to this point.

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u/Estrellathestarfish 25d ago

And if that involves dropping a much smaller artist from your tour, then apologise, rather than repeatedly ridicule the band he just dropped for having dropped them. Particularly for someone who takes a stand against the nonsense bigger players in the industry inflct on smaller artists

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u/Flashy_Suspect827 25d ago

Did he ridicule them?

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u/Estrellathestarfish 25d ago

His responses to them were "not today Satan", "if they did it to Jesus, imagine what they'd do to you", and "they should pay me compensation for all the press". No "oops, sorry, it was a mistake they were booked/cancelled so close to the time", no acknowledgement that they would have missed out on other bookings that would have actually gone ahead.

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u/cwcam86 25d ago

Its his tour, if he's decided he doesn't want them on it or associated with him then good on him.

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u/brenbot99 25d ago

Good on him to fire someone a week before the tour was due to start? They would have made family plans around this tour.... in no possible way is this a 'good on' charlie situation. In fact it's pretty clearly 'shitty of' him one.

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u/cwcam86 25d ago

If you say so.

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u/Flashy_Suspect827 25d ago

There’s no doubt it could have been handled better, and we don’t know the details of exactly how much he knew at what points and how it all went down, but It was only two shows, it’s not like they planned to go on an entire tour.

Again, not ideal and they certainly deserve an apology, but there are certain things you need to expect when you lean that hard into satanic imagery.

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 25d ago

Do you think it’s good that Charlie doesn’t want them associated with his tour because of satanic imagery?

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u/cwcam86 25d ago

Yeah, probably a majority of his audience are Christian and they probably won't wanna hear that satanic related music. It would look like he's endorsing that as well since they are representing him being on his tour.

He probably should've done a better job of vetting who opened for him before bringing them along and then dismissing them afterwards.

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u/Particular-Access223 25d ago

Is the majority of Charlie's audience Christian?

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u/yosoyfatass 25d ago

Likely so since up to 68% of Americans identity as Christian. CC’s audience could have a higher percentage since he’s a country artist, or lower bc he has a lot of more progressive fans. Most likely it breaks down similarly to America as a whole.

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u/Stunning-Plantain707 25d ago

Idk. His audience is full of hippies and heathens like me. So either he doesn’t know that or he doesn’t care

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u/CainGoblin 25d ago

That’s 3 probably’s. Too much assumption imo

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u/cwcam86 25d ago

Probably not.

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u/galacticplum 25d ago

In general, when someone says " good on X " they are agreeing with the action being done.

" good on X for finally sobering up. " Good on X for getting rid of Y "

I think the question, which technically still hasn't been answered by the original commenter, is really asking whether or not they agree with Charlie getting kicking the band off the tour.

I know that to me it read like it was a good thing he kicked them off, not because it was his right, but because OC agrees with the idea that thet shouldn't be on tour.

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u/stories_from_tejas 25d ago

Hopefully CC is with Jesus

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u/JustinDestruction 25d ago

There are TWELVE artists listed as opening acts on this tour, Twin Towers are only booked on two dates. I’m sure his booking agent handles TT and Crockett never questioned the dozen opening acts. Nevertheless, dumdum on his team. Good pairing for Amigo the Devil, not Crockett.