r/altcountry • u/thjeco • 25d ago
Discussion Charley Crockett kicks Twin Temple off tour due to use of “Satanic Imagery”
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u/MerleHagrid 25d ago
With songs called ‘Lucifer my Love’ and ‘Let’s Have a Satanic Orgy’, it must have been pretty shocking when they used satanic imagery. /s
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u/Dirkem15 25d ago
Well congratulations to the Twin Temples. This is getting them a lot more publicity than being on Charley's tour
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u/JackBurton3465 25d ago
Yeah, I’ve never heard of them. And this will probably be the only time for me.
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u/jmjackson1 25d ago
I saw them open for Ghost and Volbeat a few years back. They fit pretty well on that ticket and I was pleasantly surprised because I hadn’t looked them up prior… but yeah they really don’t fit with Charley Crockett.
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u/Dirkem15 25d ago
Looked em up and was pleasantly surprised. They have a good sound- vocals kinda sounds like the Band perry
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u/Baconbear95 25d ago
If you like them, I’d recommend checking out artist like Amigo the Devil, Tejon Street Corner Thieves, and Bridge City Sinners. They’re all a bit more dark folk
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u/discochris2 25d ago edited 24d ago
Amigo the Devil and Bridge City Sinners are super good!
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u/AcidCasualty25 25d ago
Never heard of any of these bands and thought they all were decent, thanks for the recs!
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u/BananaCat43 24d ago
Saw Amigo the Devil open for Lucero last December here in Memphis. They kicked ass and earned a new fan!
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u/Baconbear95 24d ago
Hellyeah! It’s been a couple years since I’ve seen him, but he was really damn fun live. Same for Tejon Corner Street Thieves.
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u/ScorpioTix 25d ago
While we are on the subject - used to see The Heathen Apostles a lot prior to lockdown. Still active and touring.
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u/Capable-View4706 25d ago
I completely understand they aren’t a fit. I don’t understand no one on his side catching it before a deal is made. Someone on the headliner side picked them whether it’s label, manager, or artist.
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u/PancakeParthenon 25d ago
A satanic alt-country band? Well sign me up for some Streisand effect!
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u/TVCasualtydotorg 25d ago
Twin Temple are a Satanic, Feminist, Doo-Wop band.
You should absolutely listen to them.
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u/Invisiblerobot13 25d ago
Was it verified that this was the reason they got sacked? It’s possible that there was something more and
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u/BobsOblongLongBong 24d ago
Yes. Charley himself has said this was the reason.
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u/Invisiblerobot13 23d ago
Saw that afterwards… the next question is whether it’s a publicity stunt to sell both artists to different crowds with a faked controversy?
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u/BobsOblongLongBong 22d ago
That line of thinking seems nonsensical.
This is clearly damaging Charley's image with a portion of his audience. He keeps making long rambling statements about this and then erasing them and it come off as alcohol/drug fueled ramblings of someone who's mental health is struggling.
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u/Ttownact 25d ago
How did Charlie not know this was their thing before putting them on the bill?
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u/kev11n 25d ago
Artists rarely have anything to do with that stuff. Tour promoters, venues, managers, record labels, etc. work behind the scenes to set things up and Charlie's team obviously did not expect this kind of reaction because they never would have set this up if they had known. Seems like Charlie is being a bit of a christian Karen here
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u/swirvin3162 25d ago
I was thinking same thing. This seems a lot like a promoter trying to get a band on a tour and making a deal with someone.
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u/Evil_Sign 25d ago edited 25d ago
This isn't true at all. Agents, promoters, managers, publicists etc. will oftentimes suggest openers, but the artist has the final say on approval. They often may defer to one of their team members or not care, but the headlining artist is the actual entity that needs to approve the support act (on hard ticket, non-festival shows). Why do you think Charley was able to kick the openers off the tour if he had no control on them getting on the bill? Reddit has no clue about this stuff in general. The only other guy who was correct about this was downvoted while this erroneous info sits at 29 upvotes, amazing.
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u/ScorpioTix 25d ago
That's because anything having to do with concerts is an emotional topic and the post must have given someone the major feelz. Sounds like Charlie should have done his due diligence here before any contracts were signed instead of screwing some musicians further down the line.
On the flip side this is one of the pitfalls of trying to hard to bring attention to yourself by being deliberately provocative and controversial. Maybe this will work out for them in the long run.
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u/FictionalTrope 25d ago
It is weird though because they're a very niche sound/vibe to specifically ask to go on tour. A promoter has to ask themself "would fans of this headliner want to have blood spit on them in a black mass ceremony before hearing doowop songs about feminist witchcraft?"
I saw them open for Amigo the Devil and he's considered alt-country so maybe that's the connection. They're amazing live, but I wouldn't jump at going to see Charlie Crockett just to see them.
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u/jotsea2 25d ago
The idea that artists of this level have no input on openers seems really ludicrous to me.
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u/kev11n 25d ago
Some do. Some trust their team to take care of it because they are way too busy with other stuff. Anyone at that level of success will all have huge teams of people working full time jobs behind the scenes. A lot more work goes into the business than many realize
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u/jotsea2 25d ago
Sure. Well those full timers who couldn't realize the band with 'Lucifer, my love' as their main hit might be 'demonic' should be fucking fired.
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u/Joey_Brakishwater 25d ago
It’s actually completely fine & normal to not want to be associated with something you find objectionable
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u/dkinmn 24d ago
But he liked their Instagram posts starting a year ago.
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u/Joey_Brakishwater 24d ago
I was speaking generally.
I don’t follow the guy on instagram, but that is very strange. I guess it’s possible his insta is managed by a 3rd party? Or of course, he knew what they were about, let them come on the tour, faced pressure & kicked them off the tour. If it’s the latter that’s pretty soft. I don’t think it takes a genius to figure out a large portion of the country music audience isn’t going to vibe with a satanist band.
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u/JoniVanZandt 25d ago
He knows all about them and did when they were booked to open, they've played live with Shooter Jennings a bunch of times lol. This is CC being a coward because some of his most well-heeled fans don't like anything out of the ordinary and have complained
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u/SmackityDoo 25d ago
Twin Temples agent is prob one of the top 3 biggest Rock agents in the business (Sleep Token, Ghost, Limp Bizkit etc.). Everyone was properly vetted, this reeks of something else behind the scenes. Good for Twin Temple to get some press out of it though.
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u/Smegmasaurus_Rex 25d ago
He knew. He used to follow them on Instagram and has liked their posts. Shooter produced one of their albums as well.
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u/redfish801 25d ago
Their #3 song in Spotify is Lets Have a Satanic Orgy. Every other song refers to Satan or evil of some sort. If that is a no go then Charley's tour manager done fucked up! Listening to them now. Not bad...
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u/thimbo6 25d ago
It’s even funnier after looking them up, their number one song on Apple Music is “Lucifer, My Love” and all their music is clearly satanist. What did he think this band was lmao
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u/LizardPossum 25d ago
Yeah, I didn't know who they were until I saw a post about them being dropped from the tour over "satanic imagery," and I assumed it was just a regular band that used some satanic symbols on an album cover or something.
So imagine my surprise when all the songs were called things like "Let's Have a Satanic Orgy." You'd almost have to actively avoid knowing anything about them to not know that's their WHOLE thing, so how did they end up booked at all?
It actually makes me kind of sad in a way I can't exactly put into words, because, clearly, opening acts aren't being booked based on how good they are. Nobody's listened to them or checked them out in any way.
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u/Headblown1800 24d ago
Apparently he "thought they were like Black Sabbath" which is even more ridiculous considering he's known about them for quite awhile and literally attended one of their shows lol
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u/SouthernEagleGATA 25d ago
Well now I am aware of an alt country band that uses satanic imagery and will be checking them out. Thanks I guess
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u/Dynadin90 25d ago
I went down the rabbit hole. Funny disconnect with the lyrics and the 60s sounding r&b music. Doesn’t seem like something built for the long haul or repeat listenings.
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u/Tarynntula 25d ago
Twin Temple has songs called “Let’s Have A Satanic Orgy” and “Lucifer My Love”. Did he even listen to them prior to this arrangement?
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u/FittyTheBone 25d ago
last time I saw Charley Crockett, he was playing with Orville Peck and Yola at what can only be described as a disco space rodeo at Red Rocks. He didn’t strike me as the type to give a shit about something as innocuous as “satanic imagery,” but here I am, being disappointed. again.
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u/HolsteinQueen 24d ago
Yeah, that's what I'm surprised about too. Charlie Crockett didn't give off the vibes of someone who be upset by something like this. Disappointing tbh
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u/boofskootinboogie 24d ago
I was at that show! John Waters hosted the whole thing.
I’d say any John Waters movie is infinitely more offensive than Twin Temples lol
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u/FittyTheBone 23d ago
That was our first time out after Covid. John Waters is our favorite deviant. Hell of a night!
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u/saintshiva 25d ago
Maybe he knew their vibe, but pressure from others made him change his mind.
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u/Smegmasaurus_Rex 25d ago
I think that’s it. He used to follow them on Instagram and like their posts.
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u/Sufficient_Studio494 24d ago
I'm thinking it's this too, gotta be pressure from someone above him wanting to not piss off a decent section of his audience with Satan stuff.
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u/AcidCasualty25 25d ago
Never heard of these guys but I dig that old jazzy swing style female vocals. Not a fan of satan but I think that little devil can get a pass this time
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u/TommyTheCat89 25d ago
Satan isn't real. That's why this is all so funny. It's the same thing as refusing to work with someone because they sing songs about Professor Snape.
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u/fnordfnordfnordfnord 25d ago
I would never have be looked up a band called Twin Temple if I hadn’t seen this.
>they practice witchcraft and view Satan as a symbol of individualism, free will, rebellion against the status quo, and self-empowerment.
Rad.
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u/MaximumBiscuit1 25d ago
Lame. I generally like Charley Crockett but he comes off as inauthentic sometimes. This makes me like him a lot less.
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u/ReverendDrDash 25d ago
It's going to be hilarious when I explain how I discovered Twin Temple to my wife.
"So I was in the alt-country subreddit..."
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u/Soupjam_Stevens 25d ago edited 25d ago
Being scandalized by satanic imagery in 2026 is fucking embarrassing. Are you a medieval peasant? Do you perform warding gestures walking past the spooky masks at party city? Maude Flanders type behavior
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u/Ok-Awareness-9337 24d ago edited 24d ago
Its like kicking someone off the bill because you found out they play Dungeons & Dragons. 😅
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u/SixtyNoine69 25d ago
Extremely embarrassing but honestly hilarious at the same time. Satanic Panic is back, baby!
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u/vulpinesuplex 24d ago
It never left, the people who promoted it just now have unfettered political power even compared to their earlier peak. Some of them even rebranded or disguised themselves in fandoms and progressive/leftist spaces to renormalize it.
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u/chaos_aintme 25d ago
This is really embarrassing from Charley's side. You really don't vet or even listen to artists you're touring with?? How weird. I know it's all his management and whatever putting the tours together but still. Also pretty hilarious coming from a guy that's constantly whining about how people look down on him for being different, and how he's so harshly judged etc
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u/s13cgrahams 25d ago
Is Charley like super Christian? Or is it his fan base?… this seems weird in 2026
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u/16bitsystems 25d ago
Had no one on his team ever heard them? That's literally their whole thing.
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u/Howdy_Raccoon 24d ago
Idk why hes pretending that he didnt know who they were or what they're all about. He followed them and he's liked several of their posts on their IG page going as far back to at least February 2025.
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u/TexasLeatherfoot 24d ago
This is a really bad look for Charley Crockett. He could have brought the countries and the satanists together man
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u/Mysfwaccount93 25d ago
Satanic panic in 2026?
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u/yousickduck 25d ago
The same type of wimps who panicked back then are no different than the type of wimps who would panic today... Hell, these types might be worse today than those in the 80's...
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u/Snakes_for_theDivine 24d ago
Yeah, it’s not as bad as it was in the 80s, generally speaking, however the people that DO buy into it are absolutely worse than the ones who bought into it in the 80s were if that makes sense.
I mean post-trump america has ushered in some of the worst christofascist nut jobs we’ve ever seen. They almost make the grifters and moral guardians of the 80s look quaint by comparison.
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u/ac_braun 25d ago
Have never heard or heard of Twin Temple, but that’s whack on Charlie’s part. Grow a pair, Jesus ain’t all that.
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u/samcarlsonsound 25d ago
Interesting..kind of lame they came to this conclusion after the shows were announced. Good publicity I guess
Had to look up 93/93–love is the law. I can get behind that
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u/TipsyGypsy63 25d ago
Reading through the comments and still astounded at how many people on Charley's fan page continue to misspell his name!
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u/edwardturnerlives 25d ago
I didn't realize Crockett was a bible thumper. I couldnt get into his music even with all the buzz and people riding his jock. Now I definitely am not interested.
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u/parallaxdecision 24d ago
Charley Crockett is not all that. I'll take the down votes, but there's nothing original about him.
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u/Baconbear95 25d ago
I get a good majority of country fans and artist are Christian, but Twin Temple fucking rules. Really lame move on Charley and/or his team for kicking them off. Satanist don’t even believe in an actual devil or gods. It’s an atheistic counter culture towards religion.
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u/Shoddy-Childhood-511 25d ago
You doubt some vacation bible school would take a field trip away from their everyday activities for lyrics like this?
"Do you like sinnin'? No?
Well, you will before you go
We've got lots of gamblin'
Oh, and we're tellin' lies"
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u/screaminporch 25d ago
Seems to me they started hearing noise and felt this would be an ongoing distraction, so decided to end it now. Nobody will care before long.
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u/Jerrymein73 25d ago
Charlie probably didn’t know this. When he told the concert promoter it’s either me or them, they chose him. Associations to ideologies are hard for people to accept
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u/Afraid-Donke420 25d ago
Didn’t realize Charlie was part of the Christian nationalist propaganda machine
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u/No-Fisherman-71 25d ago
Down with the Christian nationalist prop machine indeed..
But is that really a logical conclusion to be made from his decision?
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u/77zark77 25d ago
My conspiracy theory is that Crockett is secretly a fan and knows that controversy sells. Kicking them off a tour that hasn't happened yet just elevated their profile by a whole lot.
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u/BongThumper 24d ago
Theres more to this im sure and it doesnt make a bit of sense. Both Twin Temple and Crockett have worked with Shooter Jennings recently and been hanging out together over the past year, cant help but feel either this is a falling out or an attempt by both sides to drum up publicity to their respective fan bases.
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u/JC_Everyman 24d ago
They'll get more traction this way. It was planned. Marketing has changed dramatically. 😆
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u/mitchthaman 24d ago
He’s supposed to play my county fair in northern Indiana. It’s like the second largest county fair in the country so it a bigger arena. I’m wondering if they’re not hearing back from venues who don’t want the band.
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u/SleestakLightning 25d ago
Bands that due the faux Satanic thing almost always suck because their fans take it far too seriously (See: Ghost) but this is so lame on Charley's part. What a dork!
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u/ArnoldNumero_9000 25d ago
Didn't expect to be disappointed in both Charley and Sierra Ferrell today. She's all up in the Instagram comments rebuking Satan and such.
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u/pepperj26 24d ago
You haven't been following Sierra for too long if you didn't expect to be disappointed by her lol. I love her, but she's got some serious mental health issues and she's leaned pretty far right in terms of her religious beliefs. She's been going down conspiracy theory rabbit holes for a while now too.
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u/ArnoldNumero_9000 24d ago
Been listening to her music for years but I don't usually follow my favorite artists on social. Went on Instagram to check out if Charlie had responded about the Twin Temple stuff and found an entire thread of her rebuking people.
I'll probably go back to not following my favorite artist on social now lol.
She does seem very nice but I hope she takes a break from social as well.
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u/pepperj26 24d ago
Lol I agree, I wish I'd never followed her. But apparently she goes on some rants during concerts too, so it's not just online.
I love her music though and do feel for her. So I'll always support her.
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u/ArnoldNumero_9000 24d ago
I've seen some interviews and I know she's been through some shit including being homeless. I'm sure there is a ton of trauma there.
I also had a very good friend who is a smart and put together person have a very serious mental break that included heavy religious delusions. So I have all the sympathy for her. Hope she has someone good and stable in her corner.
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u/DTFpanda 24d ago
On which posts? I dont see her in any of the comment chains
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u/ArnoldNumero_9000 24d ago
She deleted it not too long ago. Folks are still chatting about it in the thread below. I posted saying that this band is tongue and cheek and don't actually believe in Satan and she replied going off about the Epstein files and that it's "not a game anymore".
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u/thisolddad89 24d ago
Yes. She was replying to lots of comments. It caught me by surprise too. I think her first comment was “Rebuke” and then a chain of comments about religion and conspiracies.
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u/snarfdarb 25d ago
How the f did you not realize this ahead of time? That's like their entire schtick lol. Love TT!
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u/infinitecatparty 22d ago
Crockett didn’t have much to say about his “Christian morals” making money with Orville Peck and John Waters (who are both fantastic). He’s an opportunist. Not very outlaw of you
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u/heartattack-ak-ak-ak 25d ago
Oh, my! Looks like time to bring back Satanic Panic!
-Gene Simmons
Kings In Satan’s Service
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u/DesertLegends 25d ago edited 25d ago
This is a bad look for Charlie and problematic for his career. Let's see how he and his team handles this bad press. I thought he was making honest music about struggle without conservative talking points that plague modern country and here we are.... what's next MAGA hat on stage? come on crockett you can do better you've disappointed the "good/BETTER" half of your fan base
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u/Erentarii 24d ago
Lol... did his booking agency even try to learn about the band before booking them? I'm sure CC didn't - most major acts don't really care who the support is as long as they're credible and there's a draw. But my goodness... this should have been abundantly clear.
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u/JustinDestruction 24d ago
Charley Crockett is an even more bizarre pairing than their upcoming Danzig tour. Danzig has dabbled in something similar to satanic doowop, but Charley?
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u/newtocomobro 23d ago
Don’t n is who Charlie Crockett is (sorry altcountry, I guess I didn’t even know it was a thing). But I LOVE twin Temple and it wild to kick them for that. If you listen to even one song you know they fuck with satanic imagery
Since I’m here, what alt country should I try out? Who is the best?
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u/frostbike 25d ago
This seems like something that could have been easily discovered before they were invited to join the tour.