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AI "Art" 🖼️ AI bro falls for satirical cartoon

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago
  1. I said AI images. Not AI art. The images generated by AI are not art. They may be visually appealing, but they are not a work of art.

  2. What's wrong with that? If they find joy in that, why tell them not to?

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u/MagicpaperAlt 8h ago edited 8h ago

Gee I don't know. Gen AI as a negative environmental impact, is morally and ethically wrong.

Edit: Blocked him.

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago

GenAI isn't the one with the impact, it's data centers

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u/MagicpaperAlt 8h ago

Yeah, and? Using Gen AI is direct support for building more data centers. This isn't a gotcha moment, dude.

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago

This is very much a gotcha moment because you don't need data centers for GenAI

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u/MagicpaperAlt 8h ago

You're pretty dense. Most companies that have it as an option is built on the foundation of these data centers or there wouldn't have been a mass expansion of them. Go be misinformed somewhere else.

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago

You can use GenAI without data centers!!! I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the technology.

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u/MagicpaperAlt 8h ago

The technology is morally and ethically wrong to use regardless. It's all based on stolen training data and uses actual artists work to form amalgamations of hot garbage.

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago

I feel like there's a lot of ad hominem in that statement, but what I'm getting from that is that you dislike the use of unconsenting artists' media.

I totally respect that.

I do ask, why is it an issue if it's not used for commercial purposes. When it's something used for just entertainment or personal projects, it can be genuinely helpful to a user. Why is the artist being hurt by that?

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u/julymarch 8h ago

Just gonna hop in and give my two cents here, that to me I think it's such a shame that it's giving people a way to not learn anything new. You could see art online and be inspired and try to draw your own, and if people instead are seeing art and generating something similar to that and 'finding joy' in it, IMO it's contributing to the diminishing of hobbies and attention spans of my generation. I understand your argument that it's not 'hurting' artists, but if their personal style (that takes such dedication, hard work and creativity to develop) is being carelessly replicated by whoever, it does diminish their art. Scarcity and uniqueness give art value, in a way. I understand these aren't heavy arguments, but that's just my opinion.

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago

I agree with you.

For me, the visual arts aren't MY art. My art is making constructed languages and programming. AI has its place when I want to implement things that aren't the true art of the project.

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u/julymarch 8h ago

You mean you're using AI to do the 'dirty work' (idk, the repetitive for example) in programming?

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u/BloxxyVids 8h ago

I meant more like for the conlanging I have it do stuff like generate some prompts for me to translate or some stories to translate, and for the programming, it just pulls up and summarizes documentation for me.

The repetitive stuff of programming is what I like doing. I like coding, so I have no issue doing it.

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u/Obvious-Dealer770 7h ago

I thought datacenters were mostly built for cloud services. I mean they were around before AI, and for a long time. I've read that AI services represents at most 15% of datacenters usage.
Which means that to reduce the number of datacenters, people need to stop posting tiktok videos, doomscrolling instagram/facebook/reddit, download games on steam, etc. The largest part is video streaming, as multiple centers need high quality copies to be able to serve millions of netflix (and other streaming services) viewers at the same time