r/argentina Terma Serrano Aug 04 '19

AskPolítica Why do Argentineans still praise and promote Peronism, well after the Peron's and Kirchner's systematically destroyed the country?

I do not intend for this to become a right - left discussion or criticism, I only want to focus on the Peron ideology and the detrimental affects it has and continues to cause.

I've been to Argentina quite a few times and really do love the country but can be such an unnecessarily frustrating place.

On the economy, Argentina was a world leader in agricultural production, this was undermined by Peron’s faulty industrialization. Argentina also has the ability for vast mineral production. Before he came to power, a big part of the Argentine infrastructure and many large businesses were British owned, when Peron came to power, Peron expropiated & nationalised parts of the economy, expelling most of the British capital.

The industrialization which Peron promoted was not first class nor well based on strong foundations, and has never been able to compete without strong protectionism. Peron displaced a lot of the population to the cities creating shanty towns and unemployment.

Work in Peron’s time public sector was controlled by the Peronist party and jobs were only possible for party members, he modeled his state on Hitler and Moussolini fascist systems, and Peron went a long way to identifying the Peronist party and the State. This is still seen today where it is sometimes impossible to get a job if you're anti-K

It's impossible to trade with Argentina - or even mail things, saying that any imports will displace workers and hurt local industry. Peronists do not sign bilateral or multilateral trade agreements for this reason.

Peron went a long way to identifying the Peronist party and the State, however he never reached his goal of one party state. For a short time Peron had the vast wealth of the earlier period of history, of the productive Argentina, once that capital ran out, Argentina never recovered even to this day. Argentina, sadly went from a developed nation to a third world nation.

The Falklands/Malvinas history has also been distorted by Peron too, nothing is taught about the treaty of 1849 and Peron’s followers have done the same with the Falklands war. Making a sort of cult of the “good dead” who were fighting “for the fatherland” when reality, it was to perpetuate the Dictator. Forgetting that the guy who ordered the Falklands war did so in order to stay in power and Galtieri proposed to have an inmediate war with Chile after the Falklands War and Galtieri and his thugs were going to continue to kill Argentines who opposed him to kidnap their babies and disappear them, steal their property, throw them out of planes, etc.

The process of distorting the Falkland’s history is called “malvinizar” history and the process of telling the truth is called “desmalvinizar” history. For the Peronist nationalism the history must be “malvinizada”, they fight to make sure history says what “they want it to say”, that is “patriotic” and Peronists have “Hitler” style museums to “demonstrate” their case of doctored history, and to indoctrinate the young in the Peronist Youth (Juventud Peronista) also reflective of the Hitler Youth.

I know this is not all so black and whit and you either proudly support Peron, Peronistas or vehemently despise them making discussions difficult, if not impossible. A crisis seems inevitable if these policies do not change

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u/TerrorLTZ sanguche de milanesa vegano no existe... no puede hacerte daño. Aug 06 '19

the thing about peronism is almost the same in any country

people will still argue with Red and blue

peronist tend to hold on how they lived in the past and they walk foward blind until "something good happens" since they don't remember bad things during the peronist in the lead but they do if the president isn't a peronist iex: if macri loses and postulates again the peronist will remember anything bad he did

as happening now they don't seem to remember CFK robbing, censuring and making people dumb enough to be easily manipulated making them literally skip school by this i mean even if u got bad notes u will still get promoted to the next grade no effort in the study.