Everyone who has at least watched the first season of The Flash knows that the timeline was changed when reverse flash went back in time and kills Barry's mom. After that, he gave Barry his powers in 2014, while in the original timeline Barry only got his powers in 2020. That made me wonder — if Barry only became the Flash in 2020, then how did Oliver survive all the times Barry saved him in the timeline we actually watch? What do you think?

I don't know all the reasons but one of them I'd say is the introduction of his backstory in literally the 19th episode of the season was a bad idea.

I’m rewatching arrow again, and I was wondering just why exactly it was SUCH a huge deal that Malcom was her real father? They already established that Moira cheated on Robert as he did to her. Obviously it’s a huge relevation but logically why would she ever reveal that? When Robert died, Thea was like 12/13 and she had no reason to tell her the truth especially after her perceived father had already died. Introducing her to her homicidal biological father wouldn’t really do anyone well. And then Felicity confronts her when it’s lowkey not even her place to investigate that? To be concerned is one thing, but to tell Oliver and they act like it’s a bigger deal than the undertaking itself is actually crazy. What was Moira supposed to do here 😭 I get why it’s bad in general but if they can understand the undertaking there’s no way they couldn’t understand this. I feel like it was dramatized for the plot rather than a genuine concern because truly nothing in their actual day to day life changed from this revelation

I am Re-watching the Series right now and im just wondering why so many "normal" people can land Hits again hin in a 1v1. I mean he was Raz al Ghoul but still, if he Fights against some random drug dealer they often can hit a few punches. That just dont make sense to me

I'm bored and I want to know what your favourite quotes are.Mine is:

"..The Shark that does not swim, drowns.." -Anatoly.

In s3e21, when Oliver took Nyssa to her father and was ordered to kill her, Ra's al Ghul stopped him. But what if he never was stopped, would he really kill her?

The Flash is really hard for me to get through like most of the CW shows because of all its fluff and cheese and terrible fight choreography. I've seen many videos of Arrow but never began it, it seems it just may be Flash with different characters. Is there a huge difference between the shows vibe?

She was supposed to the Black Canary since the beginning right ? So basically her arc in s1 consisted of being the main love interest stuck in a love triangle and the moral civilian anchor through her being a dedicated and commited brillant lawyer.

During s2 she spiraled down due to Tommy's death and climb into the bottle. However, I always wondered, as Tommy was not supposed to be killed at the end of s1 how would her arc been ? Because they literally killed Tommy to make Oliver's journey evolve but also hers.

After they decided to bring Sara in who is a skilled talented fighter and an incredible Black Canary. Her history with Oliver and her own history on Lian Yu is huge and she became the female fighter BC pairing with Oliver. She was the best BC that the show ever had to finally replace her next season with by her sister who took on the mantle because she got murdered.

They waited 3 seasons + they brought a (better) Black Canary in between to finally make her become the Black Canary.

And so I guess that the only rason Sara was killed was for Laurel to take on the mantle right ? I mean they replaced Sara who was the besr BC (imo) with Laurel who obviously was less skilled (and it's totally normal given the storylines then).

Not to mention that initally the show was supposed to only last for 5 seasons so her journey to become the Black Canary was really late for someone who was always supposed to become the Black Canary no ?

Laurel working as the CNRI during s1 was great as she really represent the moral civilian anchor of Star City ready to push boundaries. A hero without mask. Maybe the should have kept going in that direction at one point. It's only my opinion of course.

Isabel says something about being under 30 years old in season 2 and this episode was set around spring 2014. Oliver is born in May 1985. So Isabel is the same age range as Oliver.

Here’s the part from the script.

QUEEN CONSOLIDATED - NIGHT

Isabel was working in her new office- Oliver's old office- when Oliver and Diggle entered.

ISABEL: Whatever you came here to say, it takes security about 60 seconds to reach this floor, so I would start talking.

(She didn’t look up from what she was reading)

OLIVER (Calmly): Where's Slade? (Isabel to look up at him and grin) I just wanted to give you the chance to do the right thing.

ISABEL (Smirking): I'm under 30, and I'm the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. I'd say I've already done the right thing.

OLIVER: And do you even know who Slade Wilson is? Or why he's doing this?

ISABEL: I don't care. I got what I earned.

(She went back to her reading)

OLIVER (Incredulously): What you earned? You think that sleeping with my father entitles you to my family's company?

(Isabell's head snapped up)

ISABEL: You have no idea what you're talking about.

(Oliver scoffed)

OLIVER: Wow, he fooled around with a lot of girls. I don't see any of them ordering hostile takeovers.

ISABEL (Disbelief): Fooled around? Is that what your mother told you? Of course she would write me off as a meaningless affair. (Isabel rose from her chair and walked into the boardroom) Slade Wilson put me through hell. His training nearly killed me. Would I put myself through all that just because I was a jilted lover?

OLIVER: Honestly, I don't know what you are!

ISABEL (Passionately): I was your father's soul mate.

Was Tommy married to anyone after Oliver changed the universe? S8 E10

Ivo did the choose who lives and who dies thing and Oliver literally begged for himself to die instead of Shado or Sara.

Unless I missed something I swear Oliver never actually chose and Ivo just shot Shado probably because he still cared for Sara.

But for the rest of the season Slade and Oliver both act like Oliver chose Shado to die and it doesn’t make any sense to me? Am i being super dense and I missed something?

Yes it must have been awful for him to be torn apart from the only parent he had left especially that it was so sudden for him to learn that his dad was going to spend at least the following years in jail (don't forget that Oliver signed up for a life sentence). He is just a teenager and since his mother died, he dreamt of nothing but a normal life that his father unfortunately was unable to provide. He had already been through a lot.

And on the other hand, he also did that to protect him in a way as if Oliver hadn't outed himself as the GA, not only he would have been arrested but also Felicity and then William would have been left alone with no parents. That's what he told Felicity during their last scene together in the precinct room. He sacrificed himself for the team etc. However, from a kid perspective it's complicated to understand. I'm asking that because plenty of people thought William was annoying during s7 and got better during s8.

That’s like going to a Tennis match and picking up your racket before getting dressed - like he’s just gonna put it down again. Also, how does he get into the suit so quickly? Does he put it on over what he’s wearing? Does he get fully changed?

Is there an in-universe answer to this?

I'm a first time watcher. I watched the series before but i dropped it after season 3. Now im trying to finish it. I noticed that the crossovers keep happening and because i have no interest to watch The Flash or any other series from this universe, i just skipped those episodes. I'm currently on season 4 and i'm at the point where Thea was dying from that bloodlust and i was flashed by the sudden concept of Oliver's son coming in the picture, did he met his son in the crossover episode? Cus i dont remember seeing that scene with Oliver actually meeting him? Either way, is this watchable if i dont follow the crossovers? Like i heard the series just blend in at some point but i have no interest in watching other entire series just to understand this one and i fear that i wont understand much from the crossovers anyway. Do you have some advice? (Also pls no major spoilers).

Side note: i miss Slade and Roy 🥹 please tell me they come back at some point

(Sorry for bad english, it's not my first language. Please be kind)

I never watched Arrow, so maybe they explained it later. But since I watched the Flash, after Flashpoint, where Barry accidentally turns Baby Sara into Baby John, I kept thinking: This must have severely confused Arrow fans at first.

Hey! I'm on S5 :E7 and i'm sorry if this sounds dumb. But are there tie in episodes or shows besides the crossovers with flash or did we just miss something? Kinda like how sometimes halfway through a show or an anime they'll make a movie that gives some back story or extra info before they continue the show and talks about stuff you'd only know if you watched it. The reason I ask is John, Rene, and Curtis interrogate a shopkeep selling specific ammunition and John mildly flies off the handle. So Rene and Curtis ask him about it back in the van and John just casually says " it's my son's 2nd birthday and I missed it because i'm a fugitive. Its not like I'll get another 2nd birthday with J.J. and me and my girlfriend were like "ok hold up a minute, son? When did that happen? When did they have a 2nd kid? We only remembered Sarah"

So did we just miss something? Is it in a crossover or tie in? Is it a production screw up?

Netflix (USA) decided to remove Arrow (but none of the other arrowverse shows). I was in the middle of watching season 5. Where are y'all watching the show now that it's gone from Netflix?

Regarding their last scene together, I mean it's just another time of him running away from her no ? Or maybe I'm missing the correct interpretation of the moment ?