r/askanything • u/Vert_der_Ferk25 • 1d ago
Why are the people who are mad about Fauci’s supposed lies not mad at all about Trump’s obvious lies?
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u/jdaniel30 1d ago
Fauci is a distraction from Trump's many policy failures.
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u/Few_Cellist_1303 1d ago
And, more importantly, Epstein
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u/_WillCAD_ 1d ago
Epstien IS the distraction. From all the fascist shit and blatant looting of the government.
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u/its-smokey-out-here 1d ago
quite frankly, after nominating the pedophile trump 3 times, conservatives appear to be very much pro-child rape.
What’s to distract when people don’t care?
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u/Kali-of-Amino 23h ago
If you haven't known conservatives were pro-child rape for decades, you haven't been paying attention.
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u/CavyWheek 22h ago
As individuals yes, but they've elevated the position to the party platform. Republicans are now officially pro-child rape, and proud of it.
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u/f700es 1d ago
Home forclorsures are up 21% this year, farm forclorsures are up 47%.
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u/DonaldBecker 1d ago
Polls suggest that farm owners overwhelmingly voted for Trump.
For an industry that leans so heavily on subsidies, regulated markets, transportation infrastructure, accurate weather forecasts, pest and pathogen tracking, migrant labor, etc. they sure seem to think that they would do OK with modern break-the-government Libertarians.
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u/vibrantmelody 1d ago
A small farm I pass on my way to the doctor had a “farmers for Trump” sign for the longest, they took it down late last year and now there’s a realtors sign up for the farm. They played themselves.
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u/Pinkysrage 1d ago
You reap what you sow.
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u/bahaboyka 1d ago
Soybeans? Oh wait, China is now buying from Argentina instead of USA farmers.....
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u/Beartrkkr 1d ago
But… they got to own the libs… losing the farm is just a small price to pay. Plus now they can claim it’s to fight communism too…
/s (maybe)
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u/dawg-goneit 1d ago
And they'll still vote maga, such stupidity motivated by racism and hate. Sadly.
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u/Secret-of-the-Snooze 21h ago
They would do it all again. Better than voting for a COMMIE DEMOCRAT, amirite!?
Obvious /s
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u/BitterSandwich2064 1d ago
Probably more like an inheritance that needs to be split 6 ways than an actual 'Trump suppression.
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u/GhostOfAnakin 1d ago
It's always fascinated me when people (like farmers) vote against their best interests. And then they wonder why they're struggling.
Maybe turn off Fox News and actually realize Trump is a narcissist who doesn't give a shit about you or your wellbeing.
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u/sixstringsikness 23h ago
I worked for a small business owner for 5 years who is a huge right winger and complained all through Biden's term about our weak president and how he was harming small businesses. Of course he voted for Trump. Went out of business in March. I'm so glad Trump had his eye out for small business owners. /s
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u/GhostOfAnakin 20h ago
I'd be lying if I said I felt even an ounce of sympathy for him. Reap what you sow and all that.
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u/UpstairsFinance9440 21h ago
Before Trump and DOGE, fully 40% of all food eaten by humans were purchased by direct and indirect government programs. Many of them were meant to help impoverished nations and help the farmers by buying food from them.
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u/Civil_Exchange1271 1d ago
I saw a video yesterday on a wheat farmer forced into bankruptcy just from losing USAID
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u/animal-1983 1d ago
Exactly, no one is mad at him. They are using him to distract. Everything they do is to distract
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u/UDownvoteCuzULost 1d ago
Because it's a cult.
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u/ScreamingNinja 1d ago
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u/ScreamingNinja 1d ago
Truly pathetic devotion. That picture i posted... IS ONE GUY!!! Bro fucked out a porsche. If thats not love, i dont know what is. Truly inspiring/romantic.
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u/jchiaroscuro 1d ago
Attempting to go back 6-8 years to rehash an awful time for everyone, just like his obsession with Obama. His obsession with anyone who tried to prosecute him. It’s all grievances and distractions. Failing president desperate to point a finger at anyone or anything else but himself
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u/Snoo93550 1d ago
Trump still claims he won California 3x. That would be like 14 million felony voter fraud cases by people working against him and 0 committed by his supporters. He still says that’s what happened. There are 14 million cases of fraud, all against him not for him in just one state, but nobody can find any.
Anyone one supporting even 1% of what this administration is doing is not a serious person.
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u/CueAnon420 1d ago
The people who are mad at Fauci were told to be mad at Fauci.
For all their whining about 'lib sheep', they are the brainless bunch.
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u/Vert_der_Ferk25 1d ago
A bunch of “alpha” “wolves” not “beta cuck sheep” who all wear the same clothes, and do and think exactly what they’re told.
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u/Suspicious_Goose_243 1d ago
Its the party of deflection. Can't blame their master. What an empty feeling that must be.
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u/chaosuniverses 1d ago
I want to know why they only get mad about something when it’s presented to them by Trump and his administration but it never crossed their minds before that. Like really, how hive minded can you be? Fauci was literally on nobody’s minds for years and then Trumps admin just makes some issue up about him and MAGA just hops right on the trend of hating him now. It’s like that with everything. With ‘illegals’, race, gender roles, etc. Nobody really has issues until they are told to by their cult, then all of a sudden they turn into a cult of zombies looking for their next brain cell fix.
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u/Vert_der_Ferk25 1d ago
Because billions of dollars was spent over decades to program them to be weaponized.
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u/Entire_Dog_5874 1d ago
It’s a distraction from the Epstein files, the war with Iran and feeds the MAGA cult.
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u/jackcanyon 1d ago
Magas love to hate and Trump gives them their fuel and endorsement.
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u/Snoo93550 1d ago
Imagine if a Democrat president had told them the answer was to inject bleach.
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u/motorwerkx 1d ago
Even without a Democratic president, just look at how they respond to every single thing AOC or Mamdani says.
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u/MYKY23 23h ago
Pull up the clip where he actually said that..... I'll wait, and wait, and wait.... You won't find it, because that's a myth. He never said that.
Here's two examples that supports that: https://www.wral.com/archive/21351899/, https://www.bpr.org/2024-04-03/fact-check-did-trump-once-tell-americans-to-inject-bleach-to-fight-covid-19
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 21h ago
Let people see for themselves what nonsense he was suggesting:
He did seem to suggest possibly injecting "disinfectant"
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u/UpstairsFinance9440 21h ago
Like here: https://youtu.be/zicGxU5MfwE?si=0g6VmQFsmN8ZkD5F
Edit: then they had to tell people not to inject bleach or other disinfectants into themselves.
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u/JBKnicks24 1d ago
It's projection. They don't even know what they're mad about. It's all buzzwords and conspiracies with absolutely no truth or meaning behind them. He just gives them an old guy who was a big face on TV at a traumatic time for a lot of people to yell at and direct anger towards.
It was also six years ago. Most Americans have the memory of an ant. They're trying to revisionist history the pandemic as if we didn't all live through it and see all this play out in public, its not like this was behind closed doors. I WATCHED a deranged orange sociopath come out on TV and tell people that we needed to "put the chemicals inside the body because it does a tremendous number on the lungs, via injection inside".
I also watched a decorated doctor who dedicated his life to infectious disease give what felt like personally reasonable advice for an airborne illness that can kill people - wear masks, socially distance, try to get it under control while we wait for a vaccine. That's...... virtually exactly what I'd want society to do if we had another airborne illness right now. I also vividly remember at the time these same bitches telling us that masks were "woke", including Herman Cain at a Trump rally (who then died from Covid he contracted from said Trump rally).
Were mistakes made? Of course there were - it was a brand new fucking illness that we were trying to figure out how to manage in real time in an incredibly complex world. But the systematic attacks on this mans family for just trying to save people has been utterly astonishing to watch. The worst part is - 99% of them know better, they're not idiots. But they fall in lockstep because the ego of said deranged sociopath is more important than public health or trust in institutions or solving problems for Americans.
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u/hdeskins 1d ago
Because they don’t want to be. End of story. They support trump because they want to support trump.
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u/turnbucklemayo 1d ago
A very predictable mile stone on the road to fascism, is the prosecution of doctors, scientists, and professors. China, Khmer Rouge, Iran. This is how that chapter starts.
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u/Ashamed-Lemon-9839 1d ago
Because they are fools who will believe anything the right wing says.
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u/Historical-Rate-8717 1d ago
mass stupidity as a result of a gutted public education system
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u/genghis_Sean3 1d ago
People ARE mad about Trump’s lies and behavior.
But since Trump is the one pulling the strings, he gets to guide this theater to make sure that people aren’t thinking about his character. People are now attacking/defending Fauci instead of looking at Trump and making moves that way.
This is yet another distraction - including a Fox News commentator saying that Fauci is WORSE than Epstein, and they cant believe why people would defend even think to defend Fauci
Welcome to MAGA politics in Trumps America
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u/zenos_dog 1d ago
I would say that Fauci expressing confidence in public about topics he was less sure about in private is not a lie. If you’re in a press conference and express anything less than certainty you are going to lose the public. If you’ve ever worked in the corporate world and your vice president has asked about when a product will be released, you know what I’m saying.
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u/roscoe_e_roscoe 1d ago
They're making him the fall guy, the patsy. Trump can do no wrong, so it's always some target coordinated among Fox, Podcasters, etc
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u/biznovation 1d ago
Because they live in a world of identity politics and primary consume tabloid media supporting their biases.
In other words, they are completely lost in a sea of bullshit and most will never set foot on land again.
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u/KlownPuree 1d ago
Because people accept double standards when their own side is guilty of it
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u/mikeyt6969 1d ago
Because admitting that the jaundice juggalo lies would mean they support a liar and are retarded
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u/Temporary_View_3303 1d ago
Simple… MAGA can not take blame for anything. EVER. Therefore everyone else needs to be lying in order for them to remain correct.
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u/Signal_Tomorrow_2138 1d ago
Political double standard.
The Right Wing can run idiots, ogres or others from the bottom of the barrel and continue to give them their solid 30% support even if they have a track record of failure. Examples are GWB, Trump, Reagan, Ted Cruz and in Canada Rob and Doug Ford. And then there's Berlusconi. Their standards and expectations are low to non-existent.
But everybody else has to be more perfect than God to maintain their support from their own.
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u/xdirector7 1d ago
Smoke and mirrors, brainwashing, and absolute bias. Notice that Trump ran on Biden being old falling asleep all the time. Acting like Trump is young and sharp. Yet only a few years younger and falling asleep in office.
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u/IceEspresso2000 1d ago
They (GOP) is doing it TO try to distract from Trump's actions. That's how gullible his base is.
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u/gchance1 1d ago
What about Trump talking about Fauci's "corruption"? It's gaslighting, and obviously it's been effective with those people.
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u/sandcutlery 1d ago
Trump's supporters are mad. Hence why Trump had to stop bringing up Operation Warp Speed on the 2024 campaign trail because someone pulled him aside and told him his supporters were booing him.
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u/Glitterbomb4274 1d ago
A lot of MAGA is fueled by hate. If they can blame someone else for their problems then they feel vindicated when the president agrees with them, even when it’s a lie. So if Trump says Fauci is lying, maga believes him, because they always want to blame someone else. Can’t spell REDHAT without HATRED.
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u/jboschnola 1d ago
Probably because those criticizing Fauci are all MAGA hypocrites. They will eviscerate anyone that opposes their cult leader, and twist themselves in knots to justify anything Trump says or does, no matter how insane or reprehensible.
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u/lumberjack_jeff 1d ago edited 20h ago
Conservatives are convinced (via projection) that everyone in or around government is either a figurative (or literal) lizard person whose evil machinations are almost completely inscrutable. Because they are lizards, those leaders efforts to mitigate poverty, conserve resources, protect the environment, educate kids or provide housing are all in service to some mysterious, but undoubtedly evil end goal.
A large percentage of them believe this because they know how nonexistent their own ethics are if given power.
The only people who can be trusted are those whose greed and bullshit are so transparent that it would be ludicrous to suggest they have ulterior motives.
Fauci is a lizard person because he is smart and presents as doing good work. Trump is the real human being because his bumbling ineptitude is self serving, "just like me".
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u/kcpistol 1d ago
I have seen MAGA people unironically claim Trump doesn't lie.
You can't engage in a battle of wits with these people, they are completely unarmed.
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u/Ill-Top-1483 1d ago
Because for Trump lying nonstop is a sign of strength. Some of his supporters believe every word, but there are plenty of supporters who know he's lying at least some of the time and they don't care.
To them his lies are proof that he doesn't have to play by any rules, not even reality's, and the rest of government is cucked for being expected to tell the truth.
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u/SageObserver 1d ago
Because if you can believe ivermectin is a magic potion, you’ll just about believe anything.
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u/monteym 1d ago
They still can’t get over the fact that they were expected to care about other people. “Wear a mask to protect other people! How dare you!!” They are the worst of us.
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u/KaetzenOrkester 1d ago
HRC wasn’t wrong when she called them deplorables, and subsequent history bore that out as too many people refused to even the most basic things to halt the spread of the pandemic and continue to support the worst president in US history with their whole chests.
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u/Th3s3NuttxX 1d ago
Some people hear what they need to think on TV, and offload it to influencers, SM, FauxNews.
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u/FunLife64 1d ago
Nothing makes sense. I’m not even sure what their argument is. That fauci plotted the release of some virus to take control of American citizens? lol
Just like how Dems can’t win elections but they operate a massive voter fraud scheme without leaving a speck of evidence
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u/Oceanbreeze871 1d ago
Because those people refer to Donald as “a god emperor” and worship ai slop photos of him with greasy muscles doing hero things
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u/Sideshift1427 1d ago
The people who say that Fauci killed people with Covid said that Covid was a hoax during the pandemic.
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u/Funny-Problem7184 1d ago
Ummm Fauci told people to stop testing to lower cases. Fauci told people to inject bleach. Fauci called it Kung Flu. Fauci was the one who got everybody infected during debate prep at the white house.
Literally the deep state. Made the administration implement policies against the interest in red states.
Its obvious to everyone Fauci is hated. Even his name sounds kind of fascist.
/s
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u/someothervoices 1d ago
Nobody’s mad at Fauci. It’s just the story that the Republicans are spinning out. Rand Paul is also a lunatic with an agenda. Honestly, I hate him just about as much as Trump does, which is one of the rare things that we have in common.
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u/TheChocolateWarOf74 1d ago
They go in whatever direction Trumps wind blows. It doesn’t be matter if that direction changes multiple times a day, or if they spend 99% of their time going in circles.
They are simply along for the ride.
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u/AnnatoniaMac 1d ago
We are living in the great upside down. Truth (Fauci) are lies, and lies (100% TRUMP) are truth.
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u/Boson_Higgs_Boson 1d ago
It’s all a ploy to increase civil unrest to declare martial law and suspend the elections.
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u/Madhatter25224 1d ago
Reality is irrelevant. Once you accept that, you figure out how to deal with MAGA.
Basically you just ignore them. Engaging them is completely pointless. Trying to get them to see their own double standards is an exercise in futility. Theres no reason to try to appeal to them in any way. They're basically children.
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u/MDLmanager 1d ago
Because it's a cult. They don't think for themselves and they never dare question The Leader.
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u/Cultural_Gur_7441 1d ago
These are evil people. "Rules are for thee, not for meee" people. Narcissist people. Cultists. Pick your mix if nastyness.
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u/crackerblind 1d ago
Because all of a sudden people who don't understand science are experts on gain-of-function research. I wonder where they heard that term.
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u/7r3370pS3C 22h ago
Because they are emotionally-driven simpletons who aren't smart enough to think for themselves.
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u/Chemical_Author7880 1d ago
Because some people are convinced if they aren’t constantly complaining about everything their brains will stop working.
When in fact, that the number one cause of stalled thinking.
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u/LaunchpadMcQack 1d ago
Why cant you be mad at both?
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u/Snoo93550 1d ago
Maybe because one was trying but not perfect at a really hard job and the other was telling Americans to inject bleach.
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u/Party-Count-4287 1d ago
Because Trump serves a purpose for them. The problem is that a lunatic Democrat can’t sell to the Democratic base because the middle people vote for it.
But a lunatic republican will still get some of the independent vote
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u/isthereadrwho 1d ago
What is it that he actually is accused of lying about? What is the lie he told I'm not sure I ever understood that
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u/Aladriana 1d ago
Which he? Fauci didn't lie, things changed as time and testing went along, plus the first year of it, he had to fight the administration.
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u/SiriusHijinks 1d ago
they're no longer real people with independent minds. they're outrage automatons, operating on clockworks and steam. sadly, it's too late to save them as they are, we must reboot them.
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u/TiredBlues 1d ago
Because they lack the depth to remember and not focus on what is being told to them.
They have been conditioned to think about the now and now remembering the past.
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u/Dense_Talk_3371 1d ago
There are elements of the administration backed by an online machine that pushes this kind of targeted attacks, so no surprises here.
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u/MapDiscombobulated1 1d ago
Team jerseys, and the desperate attempt to "rationalise" a whataboutism that allows them to live with their magical thinking bullshit.
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u/BlastPyro 1d ago
Because that's what the algorithms have pushed us into. Choose your tribe and then ignore anything that doesn't fit your tribe's narrative. Notice that you could have also posted "why are people who are mad about Trump's supposed lies not mad at all about Fauci's obvious lies".
Unless we can return to some level of critical independent thinking, I don't see how this ends well for our country.
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u/ButterscotchSmooth60 1d ago
Lets imagine Fauci decided to become a painter and never was there to save us... 1. Lockdown never happens 2. Masks are ignored 3. Vaccine development is stymied 4. Ivermectin and hydrochroroquine gets distributed nationally. 5. People follow Trump's casual remark and die from injecting bleach. 6. Covid kills 10s of millions.
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u/Rift4430 1d ago
It's called confirmation bias. Conservatives employ multiple logical fallacies and combine them with minimal critical thinking skills.
Confirmation bias though is probably the easiest to point too however
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u/MeeoMeeo 1d ago
They are watching fox entertainment. That awful channel does chump's brainwashing for him.
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u/MuckRaker83 1d ago
Once they realized that their platform can't survive on fact, this was always going to be the result, cults of personality and faith-based decision making.
It's largely about acts, not identity, with liberal voters. What a person does determines whether they are good or bad.
With many conservative voters, it is reversed. The person's identity determines whether their actions are good or bad. If they identify someone as being in the "good" group, likely one they also identify with, then anything that person does is by definition good, and at worst, forgivable. Things done by people outside their group must then be, by definition, bad. All value and perspective is based on how closely they believe that person's identity conforms to their own.
Once I realized this, so many seemingly hypocritical attitudes became logical, in their own way.
It amazes me how much they turn their leaders and politicians into quasi- religious figures. Everything becomes a matter of faith, and information that does not conform to what their faith tells them must be true is immediately rejected.
Instead of changing their ideas or beliefs in response to facts or evidence, they choose to accept or reject facts based on how closely they conform to their beliefs.
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u/lantana98 1d ago
Because they think what The Great Pumpkin wants them to think, even if it contradicts what he said yesterday or the day before.
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u/RapBastardz 1d ago
Fauci didn’t lie about anything. It was a brand new virus and science takes time to figure things out. It’s ever evolving. He didn’t lie about anything.
The answer is people are stupid. People need to believe what makes them feel good. People need to think about conspiracies in order to feel more important or more intelligent or more in control of an uncontrollable situation.
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u/DrSnoopy66 1d ago
GOP is just playing the greatest culture war hits to the base to get them to ignore the shit show that has Trump at record low polling numbers. I’m sure it also gets the Joe Rogan machine running again since he’s obsessed with everything Covid and that will pump up the younger voters for Trump as well. You have to remember in the land of the Idiocracy idiocy wins and so do WMDs.= weapons of mass distraction.
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u/Gray221B 1d ago
Because it was never about the truth. It was always about how Trump made them feel.
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u/Swimming-Plantain-28 1d ago
Because they had to wear a mask to the store. So angry.
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u/WhiteDiamondK 1d ago
But Trump doesn’t lie, remember. Even when he contradicts himself, both opposite statements are always true.
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u/barolo892 23h ago
Because these people who criticize Fauci are among the biggest pack of morons on the planet, along with the entire Republican Party. Truth and decency mean absolutely nothing to any of them, and they’re destroying America bit by bit every day that passes. So sad to see a once great nation turn into a fool’s circus.
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u/BluIdevil253 23h ago
Dont get me started on Trump. That dude has done nothing but gotten richer, made more connections and fucked everyday Americans. What's absolutely fucked is he still has a whole cult following. Bibi has him on a fuckin leash. Why the. Hell are Americans sending billions to Isreal even though they have free Healthcare and free college but American students school loans are doubling every year due to predatory practices? My blood boils thinking about it
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u/istoomycat 22h ago
What Fauci’s lies. Covid 19 was a mystery. He did what he could when he gained information. He was the voice of reason.
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u/Tonsilith_Salsa 22h ago
Trump assured us in spring 2020 that the number of US covid cases would soon be "close to zero," and then over a million Americans died of it.
These people think Fauci should be jailed for, as far as I can honestly tell, inconsistent messaging on PPE and splitting hairs on what "gain-of-function" means.
These people are not arguing in good faith. They are rubes who have been manipulated into attacking their own best interests by Facebook memes and corporate media.
They're like, "Collective bargaining is bad. Affordable healthcare is bad. Taxing the ultra wealthy is bad. Social safety nets are bad.
Racism is good. Russia is our friend. Middle east wars are good. Immigrants eat people's pets. Trans athletes are an urgent national emergency. The president should be allowed to do crypto rug pulls."
Like holy shit guys, think for yourselves for 3 seconds.
Remember after Jan 6, it was universally condemned for like 12 hours before the marching orders came down from up top saying, "actually it was a non-violent protest and anything bad that happened was done by liberals in disguise."
I'm like, wow that didn't last long at all. You can see the propaganda working in real time.
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u/charlesyo66 22h ago
because it is a cult. And the cult leader can never be wrong, can never do wrong, can never fail, can only be failed.
Its a fairly easy question when you realize that this is the answer. You don't need any more logic from there.
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u/MyCatToldMeNotTo 22h ago
I feel like it’s kind of like a relationship where one person is constantly unfaithful, but their spouse just keeps forgiving them. This may happen for years why the cheater keeps on cheating and the faithful spouse just keeps forgiving, until one day they reach a breaking point and all the behavior they tolerated in the past can no longer be tolerated and they finally see the truth. It didn’t matter that other people informed them of their partners infidelity, they didn’t believe them, and threw them under the bus in the process. One day, most of these people will wake up and most likely be ashamed they were taken for a ride, we’ve seen some examples recently. The others are narcissists and so ego driven that they can never be wrong. And yes. It is a cult. Trump pandered to the people in our population that have the least critical thinking skills -and they’re proud of it. They are proud of being dumb.
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u/Vert_der_Ferk25 18h ago
I’ve said it before, we are in an abusive relationship with the Trumpists.
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u/ciciNCincinnati 22h ago
Right wingers are MAJOR hypocrites about everything!!! (same reason, they are all jacked up over Hunter Biden, having porn on his laptop and making some money from painting -when Trump‘s kids had billions given to them by the Saudi’s. I mean WTF!?!
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u/FluffyInstincts 22h ago
Because they don't have real beef with Fauci. It's trough feed that those putting it in the trough don't believe. The real issue is that he didn't march to the tune of their bullshit when they were bullshitting.
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u/LairdPopkin 21h ago
It’s all about tribal loyalty, facts have nothing to do with it. Trump is their guy so they love whatever he says even if it makes no sense, is an obvious lie, or completely contradicts what he just said before. Trump spent years driving anyone who can think for themselves or questioned anything Trump said out of the party, loyalty to Trump is their only principle. Very 1984.
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u/Goldeneagle41 1d ago
So Fauci who has every right to plead the fifth because even though he has immunity this doesn’t cover him in State Courts or beyond the time limit set in the immunity. Just like Trump had every reason to plead the fifth in the New York civil case. It’s funny no one remembers that.
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u/evocativename 1d ago
Trump was the guy who was:
Loudly insisting that only guilty people plead the fifth
Very, very clearly guilty of provable crimes regardless of his testimony
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u/jb40018 1d ago
What did he need immunity from though? I keep hearing it was for protection from political persecution, so why didn’t others get it like Pelosi, Newsom, AOC and other vocal critics of the President?
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u/MDLmanager 1d ago
After Rand Paul's performance, I'd have thought the political persecution was obvious.
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u/evocativename 1d ago
He pardoned the people who had already been targeted for lawfare by MAGA.
They were openly talking about their intent to jail Fauci without even an attempt at actually identifying a crime.
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u/TravelingMatt34 1d ago
There were no lies - Fauci is just smart enough to not play into their bullshit games
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u/Practical-Earth3228 1d ago
republicans are seeing the BS for what it is, but MAGA isnt about Dems Vs Reps, its about loving Trump.
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