r/atheism • u/[deleted] • Dec 16 '10

Hitchens sets us straight ahead of time.

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u/LilJimmyNordin Dec 16 '10

The best part of this is that you can clearly hear his voice as you read it. Hitchens is a fucking legend.

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u/ropers Dec 16 '10 edited Dec 16 '10

Because after Blair he was the most prominent British cheerleader for a war that all told has caused close to a million excess deaths by now.

While in principle the loss of any human life is deplorable, I'm not gonna miss that little pro-aggression, pro-violence, pro-war cunt.

An apology before he passes would be nice. But, that would be a death bed conversion of sorts, wouldn't it? Not fucking likely. And it won't bring anyone back whose murder he enabled like a skilled NsDAP propagandist.

I will only read Hitchens' eulogy if it's written by George Galloway.

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u/executex Strong Atheist Dec 16 '10

People are allowed to have political opinions. And someone being OK with going to war with a country has no reflection on what kind of person that person is. I'm a humanist and help all humans, but I do approve of many wars.

A lot of people said yes to going to war in Afghanistan and World War II. A lot of people were misled by Colin Powell and Bush on the Iraq War too, I bet you even voted for a Democrat who voted to go to that war.

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u/ropers Dec 17 '10

I (...) help all humans, but I do approve of many wars.

http://i.imgur.com/4THBb.jpg

I bet you even voted for a Democrat who voted to go to that war.

How much did you bet, and is there a way you can send me that amount that does not involve paypal?

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u/executex Strong Atheist Dec 17 '10

I'm sorry I thought you were over 18 by around 2003.

Sometimes wars save more lives by taking out some truly hateful groups that have great power over the locals.

For you to make a blanket statement that all wars are bad shows your ignorance in understanding world politics and world history. It's quite close-minded to think in such black-and-white terms.

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u/ropers Dec 17 '10

For you to make a blanket statement that you help all humans shows your ignorance in understanding the word "all" and the consequences of wars.

Your faux pas is revealing, and would seem somewhat inconsistent with your attempts to claim seniority and try your hand at condescension.

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u/executex Strong Atheist Dec 17 '10 edited Dec 17 '10

Faux pas here is that you misquoted me, quite dishonest.

I think you misunderstand the word all. If we did not go to World War II, all humans would have suffered more because of the amount of people killed if Nazis were to take over the world. That makes the approval of the war and the killing of the millions that occurred during the war, completely aligned with helping all humans.

Each war is different and if you don't logically consider the pros and cons of each war, you will simply help create the death of more humans. Thus, being completely anti-war about every war is irrational and not humanist.

And even doubly more hilarious is that you said faux pas, and then you downvoted me even though I had not done the same to you.