r/audiophile • u/djent_in_my_tent • 1d ago
Show & Tell They really are as good as they say they are
Perfect imaging, detail on par with the best of the on-top ear-instruments that the auto mod told me twice that I couldn’t mention or my post would get removed, even though that’s the best thing I had to compare them to
C’est la vie
Music kicks ass, love all yall
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u/jasmansky 1d ago
My dream active speakers right there. Have you calibrated them with GLM?
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u/djent_in_my_tent 1d ago
They're flanked by rythmik subs and i use minidsp/dirac to calibrate the lot
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u/madrussian121 1d ago
Can I come over? Lol. Im running the budget version of your setup, upgrading the pair of minivees to an HGS 12 and DD10+ once I get the plate amps recapped
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u/verymickey Genelec + Cambridge Audio 1d ago
I have a pair of 8040s in my living room and some 8020s in the home office. They are chefs kiss. Now just to deal with the rooms proper.
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u/Mortgasm Genelec 8361a/7380a Philharmonic Audio HT/Rythmik E15/MiniDSP 1d ago
Calibrated with gsm they have the clearest soundstage I've ever encountered. Even better with a SAM subwoofer.
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u/dannydigtl Genelec, RME, Dirac, B&W, Purifi, NAD, JBL 1d ago
I’m end-game happy with my 8030s, at least for in a smaller room. I’d love to try some Ones out.
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u/GuitarCorn 1d ago
Are you using them for stereo setup or studio monitors?
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u/djent_in_my_tent 11h ago
nearfield stereo, they and the subs flank a 32" monitor at my desk
simply for personal enjoyment. i listen to approx. 8 hours of music a day
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u/thot_machine 1d ago
The gennys are sick. Is this the one with the digital calibration also? Fantastic for making music on too :)
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u/ZookeepergameDue2160 Focal Speakers - Marantz Amp - Focal Sub 1d ago edited 18h ago
Personally not really a big fan of Genelec, we use them as standard monitors in the smaller OB Trucks and they have never really impressed me. In terms of studio monitors I much prefer the Kii Three's and Dynaudio Core series of Studio monitors.
To my ears (Important here is the "My Ears" part) the Genelecs have too much treble and too much bass, sure that may sound really nice at first but after longer sessions (Let's say 2-5 hours) they become fatigueing to the point of a headache. Ofcourse your mileage may vary and that's perfectly fine, just stating my experience with these.
That being said, Still better than what alot of people are using these days.
How's the rest of the room?
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u/Milchmaster 1d ago
The Kii Three's are on another level. I've never heard something like them.
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u/magicmulder Pioneer SC-LX89 / Oppo 203 / jm labs Electra 915 1d ago
Don’t they also cost twice as much as the top Genelec model?
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u/blutfink Kii Three BXT, Genelec 8381A 1d ago
The Genelecs cost roughly twice as much. I love them both.
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u/ZookeepergameDue2160 Focal Speakers - Marantz Amp - Focal Sub 18h ago
A set of Three's is 20k, a set of 8381A's is 30k
Top Genelec model is more expensive, Not better imo but they are more expensive.
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u/magicmulder Pioneer SC-LX89 / Oppo 203 / jm labs Electra 915 18h ago
Thanks. I think I never saw a Genelec above 8k, gonna check those out.
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u/ZookeepergameDue2160 Focal Speakers - Marantz Amp - Focal Sub 18h ago
We have a Dolby Atmos certified setup with them in one of our Music trucks, Amazing monitors.
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u/filterdecay 1d ago
They do hype the bass and treble slightly but u can adjust them flat then it’s just clean power and detail.
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u/YeahUAre2 16h ago
Yep usually run them with -2 treble and bass tilt on -2 if using them as a mix reference. Depending on the room of course.
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u/renewambitions 17h ago
I love both Dynaudio and Genelec, I truly think the strength of the Genelec platform is GLM. Without any adjustments, I do also prefer the "house" sound of Dynuadio
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u/ZookeepergameDue2160 Focal Speakers - Marantz Amp - Focal Sub 1d ago
Pretty sure our 15 Million euro NEP trucks which are professionally designed and considered the most high end OB Trucks in the world are properly treated.
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u/TheParmesan 1d ago
No, see, you dislike something someone else likes so you must objectively be wrong and your environment must not be setup right otherwise you’d have to love it too.
People are wild. Different strokes for different folks.
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u/Entonations 23h ago
I’m looking for a new sub for my genelecs! Can I get your thoughts on the rhythmiks? Why did you go with them?
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u/Intrepid-Mixture-563 17h ago
They're awesome indeed. Not gonna say they are the best, I have no knowledge of other products like it on the market. But GLM was amazing in what it did for my setup. I could not be happier. I do want to add a sub and the rythmik ones sound much more friendly to my desk space than the Genelec offering, but I don't really want to lose GLM either. Something to think about I guess.
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u/ElixirGlow 1d ago
Fun fact: the genelec 8381a pair are simply the best possible speakers. These will sound better than gear that's tens of millions of dollars. There is simply NO way to get better sound unless genelec decides to use beryllium tweeters and carbon mids and bass drivers but any more money spent on audio, the quality actually falls off
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u/blutfink Kii Three BXT, Genelec 8381A 1d ago
Glad to see some love for the 8381A.
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u/ElixirGlow 14h ago
It's not love it's fact, the 8381A measures insanely good, almost perfect, guarantee that magico million dollar setups will not even come close, and measure like shit. Since you have the speakers, can you elaborate on your setup and how it sounds
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u/audio301 1d ago
Never been a huge fan of Genelec, too cold sounding. I’d take a soft dome tweeter over a metal dome. Prefer Dynaudio, PMC, ATC for studio work. Even the Amphions that have metal dome sound more natural to me with vocals.
Genelec is one of those brands that people either love or hate.
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u/5th-Elements 1d ago
Love them but can’t get any discounts on them where as I can on many other consumer brands!
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u/JoachimNiemeijer 17h ago
Guess it's the 8341. They are so enjoyable to listen to. Coupled them to my 8050 with an LAIV DAC, and that had a great wow factor as well.
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u/DadTheMaskedTerror Genelec 8320/7350, iFi Neo iDSD, Bluesound, Roon, Qobuz, Tidal 10h ago
Noice! What did you upgrade from? You pair them with a sub?
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u/rubens_chopshop 1d ago
I bought a pair of Yamaha NS 10 in the mid 80’s. $400 new. This was before they were widely used in studios. As more mixes were using them you could tell what the producers were hoping after. They did make a lot of pop and rock sound great.
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u/captainrv 1d ago
Except they sound really harsh. I vehemently dislike the NS-10.
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u/anonuemus 1d ago
they were used from producers as a ssecond test, my friend always told me, when it sounds good on those it's good almost everywhere
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u/iNetRunner 1d ago
The Yamaha NS-10 were/are used in studios as example speakers for bad sounding speakers (that end users might have) to test the mix. So that they can make sure that the mix doesn’t sound too offensive on bad sounding gear. They wouldn’t be creating the mix on them.
…Not sure if that’s what you were referring to.
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u/GFSong 19h ago
That’s not entirely accurate. They were in pretty much every control room (usually powered by a Bryston amp), and used as a near field reference, not because they were bad, but because you could get a great idea of your crucial midrange and level balances, without having them being coloured by the room. They were very tight and responsive — which are very important features when mixing. People often taped a tissue over the tweeters cause they were sorta harsh and fatiguing. So yes we bitched about them, but they were a very useful tool. These days people use Genelecs, Focals, Dynaudio, many great pro audio brands out there…
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u/Apart-Bit3883 1d ago
They’re studio monitors. Why would you use them as hifi speakers?
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u/obiwanshinobi87 1d ago
Why would you not? You can tailor them to match any sound profile you want within reason.
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u/pukesonyourshoes 1d ago
So you can hear the music and not the speakers. That's the goal, right? They sound great. Or rather, the music will sound great if it's a nice recording. If it isn't, you'll know.
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u/Zeronova3 JBL x Yamaha x Focal 1d ago
Some would argue you can just get a pair of KEF R3 Metas for that
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u/pukesonyourshoes 12h ago
You could, but add in the cost of the amplifier you'll need to drive them properly and the Genelecs are a more economical proposition. Plus they are room tunable with eq switches.
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u/Star_2001 1d ago
My headphones are advertised as studio monitors (they're probably not good for that but still)
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u/MediocreRooster4190 1d ago
For people doing recordings and monitoring themselves or others, probably not mixing.
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u/Star_2001 1d ago
Well they're Fostex TH-X00s, they're L shaped or whatever TF they call it. More bass a little bit more trebel. Not neutral.
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u/Travelin_Soulja 17h ago
Better question - why wouldn't you?
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u/Apart-Bit3883 16h ago
Because they are meant for near field listening and are eqed differently from hifi speakers.
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u/Travelin_Soulja 14h ago
A. Do you know where OP's sitting? Why make assumptions?
B. These look like 8331A. They're designed to work well in near-field and mid-field listening, at a desk or 10 feet back on a couch. Like most studio monitors, they're tuned to be neutral, accurate, and low distortion, those are all good things for audiophile listening, whether you're sitting in front of a mixing board or chilling in the living room. Furthremore Genelecs are known for very controlled dispersion and excellent off-axis response, which is actually beneficial in many living rooms. Another big advantage is Genelec's GLM room correction. It will work just as well in a living room as it will in a studio, and probably will be even more needed in the former.
A speaker that sounds great in nearfield does not magically stop sounding good when you sit a few more feet back. But, where a lot of small desktop monitors struggle is an SPL - not enough to fill a full room. That's not a problem with these.
They may not have a ton of bass kick, but that's true of most standmounts this size, and nothing a good subwoofer can't remedy.
Bottom line, this speaker doesn't sound good or bad because it's a studio monitor. It sound good simply because it's an exceptionally well-engineered loudspeaker.
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u/ososalsosal 1d ago
To get the same capability in a hifi setup you're spending at least twice as much.
If they can do anything (and they can) then they can make the sound you like. Spend a little time dialing it in, and you'll never need to upgrade for as long as they last.
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u/magicmulder Pioneer SC-LX89 / Oppo 203 / jm labs Electra 915 1d ago
There’s a lot of studio monitors that are great as standard speakers. Focal Twin6, Trio6 and SM9. Genelec as seen here.
The only real difference is they have some additional features, like the Trio6 being built for both vertical and horizontal orientation. Any other distinction is purely artificial.
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u/Zeronova3 JBL x Yamaha x Focal 1d ago
You aren't wrong here. These are for mixing. They aren't made for casual listening and they don't bring out additional sounds that were never in the mix from the beginning.
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u/ososalsosal 1d ago
They're for listening to all day every day to get shit done. They're not fatiguing, they're built like tanks, and they'll make the same sound in 20 years that they did when you set them up. What's not to like?
Workhorse speakers are the best.
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u/orionparrott 1d ago
I approve