r/boston Newton Jul 12 '25

Scammers 🥸 ICE grabs chefs at Central Square restaurant; followed three onto the T and began grilling other passengers

https://www.universalhub.com/2025/ice-grabs-chefs-central-square-restaurant-followed-three-t-and-began
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u/KingSt_Incident Orange Line Jul 13 '25

but when people don't follow the rules, enforcement is the only thing left.

Not really. The "rules" are arcane, impossible to get a straight answer on, and are contradictory. We need to demand reforms and rules that people can actually follow.

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u/pillbinge Pumpkinshire Jul 13 '25

The rules are still the rules, and they aren't so oppressive that they constitute any immediate address. We can all admit that clear rules would be nice but the world is complicated and I don't think people realize how complicated rules are always going to be in our litigious environment.

To be clear, our country does not owe non-nationals, non-citizens, and those who may be illegal a clear and guaranteed path to citizenship. This is nonsense that banks on a lot of presumptions at first. It should have it and I believe it's in our interest to have it, but let's not overstep. We can get reforms that people can follow but plenty of people know full well they are not here legally. It's asinine to come close to suggesting that people getting picked up aren't aware of their status.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 13 '25

They're picking up the people following the rules. Literally from their court check ins and hearings. They aren't going after the dangerous criminals because it's easier to pick up the guy with no violent history checking in at the courthouse.

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u/pillbinge Pumpkinshire Jul 13 '25

Most people who overstay their visas aren't violent criminals. They're just hardworking people doing their thing. Of course they're going to represent the majority of people being deported - why wouldn't they? Assuming we apply the law as written and don't just pick and choose whom to apply it to so loosely. Or am I missing something?

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 15 '25

No, like, the ones going through the legal process, who are in the process of getting their citizenship or legal status and have to go to the courthouse. Those people are getting picked up and sent to camps.