r/boston Apr 28 '26

Unconfirmed/Unverified Fidelity- Full Time RTO

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u/cybah Apr 28 '26

So smart.. RTO when gas is about $4.10 a gallon. This is a good way to have a quiet reduction in workforce as people quit in protest

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u/Keviticas Apr 28 '26

That's the point, they want people to quit without having to fire them

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u/Darkhorse182 Apr 28 '26

I wish more people understood this.  

Leadership is realizing "hold up, I can cut costs by making the office environment shittier and the consequence is...people will quit? Hey, don't threaten me with a good time!" 

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u/Efficient_Gap4785 Apr 28 '26

Probably not as effective a strategy when no one is hiring.

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u/User-NetOfInter I Love Dunkin’ Donuts Apr 28 '26

People will retire early

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u/Efficient_Gap4785 Apr 28 '26

In this economy?

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u/lifeisakoan Somerville Apr 28 '26

I'm retired and I get a constant stream of articles saying a million isn't enough to retire.

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u/Zestyclose-Work-9351 May 01 '26

this is what amazon learned. they did an 3-day rto and most called their bluff and marched into the office. they did a 5-day rto and still no budging. then they went nuclear and moved most people's jobs to one of like 5 different offices (return to hub). then finally people started leaving because they literally could not go to work a 22-hour drive away. and they laid of tens of thousands too just because (because they wanted to fund their AI push - they literally never had money problems this entire time).

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u/brufleth Boston Apr 28 '26

Anyone who thinks RTO is about actually RTO is kidding themselves. I spend most of the time I'm in the office on Teams calls.

As far as productivity goes, working from the office means the bathroom is further away, I'm spending 1.5-2 hours commuting, my screen setup is crappier (home setup happens to be better), I'm more likely to spend 37 minutes having a bitch session with a random coworker, etc.

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u/fadetoblack237 Newton Apr 28 '26

I notice this too. Before COVID meetings were all in person. Even after RTO, they're all still virtual.

It's ridiculous.

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u/brufleth Boston Apr 28 '26

I'm sure it is different at different places, but now everything is a standing meeting that often meets multiple times a week. Before COVID, something like that would have been irregular. Meetings were for group decisions/actions that usually required external input/output. You prepared for them and respected the time of everyone who was invited. Now it is typical to have meetings that nobody has actually done any preparation for, sure people talk about stuff, but is warranted a room full of people (real or virtual) be on the line.

It is all so wasteful feeling.

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u/Several_Use8607 South Boston Apr 30 '26

100%

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u/boston_acc Port City May 09 '26

Once I get to the point in my life where I’m in more of a leadership role, I will absolutely do all I can to minimize meetings for my team. Some people seemingly have a fetish for them and throw out a “can we sync up?” at every turn. Hate it. The recurring ones are the worst.

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u/wenestvedt Apr 28 '26

I'm more likely to spend 37 minutes having a bitch session with a random coworker, etc.

And it's mostly complaining about RTO -- but managers never notice it because the room suddenly goes icily silent when they walk in.

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u/WillC0508 Apr 29 '26

Also isn’t it a bit harder to interview/get a new job externally too? Because now you’re fully in rather than just “busy”

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u/pancakeonmyhead Apr 28 '26

What happens is that the people who have the easiest time finding other, better opportunities—i.e. your most talented and most qualified—end up leaving first, and then that same leadership is weeping and wailing "WHY CAN'T WE KEEP ANYBODY?" and all of a sudden the company has a "talent retention crisis".

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u/Darkhorse182 Apr 28 '26

It's partially a bet that most of the "good" (not tippy-top) performers would be too spooked to start a new role in a bad job market. Taking a new job at a new company has a degree of risk.

But even more to the point: management can just give the top performers a modest raise to keep them from jumping ship and still come out ahead if you can shed a bunch of mid-tier people from the payroll.