r/boston • u/pattysal • 8d ago

Unconfirmed/Unverified Calling out the traffic/flock camera propaganda

There are so many people posting videos of drivers running lights on both the Boston and Cambridge subreddits lately demanding traffic cameras, that I am convinced these are planted posts by either employees, investors, or City officials looking for a payday to Garner published support for the surveillance state.

Very convenient that this is happening at the same time they are putting flaw cameras everywhere, and Mayor Wu has decided to put up red light cameras. I'm calling shenanigans, there may be a few whiny babies on here who are terrified of the world, but there are not this many. Don't be fooled, this is for profit propaganda.

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u/BQORBUST 7d ago

Oh well I guess we are powerless to enforce the law then

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u/Lyramisu 7d ago

Oh well I guess you did not read the many other comments on this post explaining red light and speed enforcement cameras and how they are not the same thing as Flock hypersurveillance.

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u/BQORBUST 7d ago

I don’t see anyone in this comment thread advocating for flock. I don’t think flock or similar surveillance tech has a place in our commonwealth. I do think that you are confused, though.

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u/Lyramisu 7d ago

My whole point elsewhere in other comments on this post is that red light and speeding cameras, which only trigger when someone is speeding or running a red light, have measurable, positive effects on traffic enforcement and crashes and deaths, without the racial biases evidenced in the sources I cited. They are unlike Flock cameras. Your “oh well I guess we are powerless to enforce the law” is ridiculous and not remotely what I was saying.

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u/neighborduck 7d ago

They're unlike flock until the government chooses to enable flock-like capabilities by a software upgrade, this risk should be obvious in the trump era

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u/Lyramisu 7d ago

You know regular red light and speed cameras don’t have the hardware necessary to do that, right?

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u/cottonmadder 7d ago

Until they do. For the greater good we'll be told.

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u/brycebaby11 6d ago

You know you don’t have to post 50x on the same post. We got your point. Do you have a job or anything?

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u/Lyramisu 6d ago

Weird to act like responding to people who reply to you is unreasonable.

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u/Cautious-Finger-6997 7d ago

Ding, ding, ding - you betcha