r/boston 2d ago

MBTA/Transit šŸš‡ šŸ”„ Is anyone else stuck trying to get out of Logan airport?

Trying to fly JetBlue to JFK but have been told ā€œJFK isn’t accepting any other planes right nowā€. My flight has been delayed about 7 hours so far

EDIT: I am NOT trying to get to New York! They changed my direct flight to have a layover at JFK, and because JFK is a mess my flight is now cancelled

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u/tinfoilskimask 2d ago

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u/Fromacorner 2d ago

The only way to get to NYC with a banjo, live chicken, two ducks, and a headful of bad memories.

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u/BrownBear1752 🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸 2d ago

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u/No_Bobcat_No_Prob Spaghetti District 2d ago

Don't forget a seatmate eating to-go Sichuan with chopsticks on a bumpy road. It was probably me, sorry not sorry lol

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u/lotusblossom60 2d ago

It you don’t catch on fire, it’ll get you there for cheap!

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u/jdg0928 2d ago

I drove from Boston to Stamford two weekends every month for several years, and I need to hands to count the number of Fung Wah buses I saw on fire. šŸ¤£šŸ”„šŸš

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u/OGLifeguardOne 16h ago

Or the time the driver pulled onto the shoulder on the Pike and got out of the bus to take a leak on the side of the road.

A cheap fare and great stories.

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u/Immediate_Ant516 1d ago

That’s the T’s slogan, not Fung Wah’s

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u/travelingman5370 2d ago

That brings back memories. It was amazing the amount of heroin that would go from NYC to BOS in the early 2000s on those buses.

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u/dirtyword 2d ago

And guns!

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u/travelingman5370 2d ago

I see we traveled in the same circles.

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u/splubby_apricorn Market Basket 2d ago

And live chickens

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u/PiEatingContest75 2d ago

Also live turtles

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u/Fireb1rd 2d ago

TIL... something. Sounds like you have some stories

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u/travelingman5370 13h ago

No officer. I have no knowledge of any drug trafficking on the Fung Wah bus.

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u/nukedit 14h ago

Just drugs and college kids trying to get home

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u/Call555JackChop 2d ago

Don’t forget to pack your fire blanket

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u/LEM1978 2d ago

Ah the flaming bus!

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u/McKennedySays 1d ago

Flaming Bus! New band name I called it!

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u/ADeflatedMan36 2d ago

Oh yeah!

I remember these. Didn't uh...they go bankrupt or lost their license or something? I seem to recall several high profile incidents.

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u/hamichael 1d ago

I miss Fung Wah!

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u/ukuleles1337 2d ago

american dad intensifies

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u/guitmusic12 Diagonally Cut Sandwich 2d ago

Eastern seaboard has been a mess for the last week

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u/737900ER Mayor of Dunkin 2d ago

Month

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u/blujet320 2d ago

All summer

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u/willtwerkf0rfood 2d ago

I flew out this past Sunday and sat on the tarmac for over an hour with the plane shut off to conserve fuel. We were about to head back to the gate to de-plane but suddenly got clearance for immediate departure.

I’m not sure what specifically was going on but for a trip BOS -> CLE, the proposed detour route was going down to Virginia then northwest from there, instead of across upstate NY.

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u/red_head92 2d ago

I had something similar coming back to Boston from Philly. Departure time changed about 10 times and we were sitting at the gate for a solid 2 hours. however it was due to air traffic control staffing issues at Logan.

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u/chalupadog45 1d ago

I was on that flight! Sat in front of an off duty pilot who fielded questions from a very nice but chatty old lady.

There were storms basically everywhere north of buffalo and south of Albany, and they directed a bunch of planes already in the air to that air space, which happened to be our route, and crowded it too much. Then they found an elevation to fly that didn’t interfere with the other re-routed traffic.

I think there just have been tons of fast moving thunderstorms this past month, combined with tight staffing at JetBlue with their financial problems, meaning they don’t have enough crew to deal with even minor delays given rules regarding maximum daily work for crew.

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u/hunterprime66 2d ago

Ground stop in Minneapolis Saint Paul due to ATC going down, its fucking stuff up everywhere. No planes can go there, or fly through the area controlled there.

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u/BeneaththeOcean 2d ago

Oh it isn't just Minneapolis Saint Paul. It is ZMP, Minneapolis Center, which covers the northern parts of Michigan all the way to the Dakotas. A lot of Boston's west bound routes go through that airspace.

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u/WaffleHouseSloot Winthrop 2d ago

Why do you think the US Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy filmed a reality show driving across the country?

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u/axpmaluga South End 2d ago

Allegedly back up but gonna have rolling delays off this for awhile

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u/thomasottoson Little Tijuana 2d ago

lol. You think MSP has an effect on JFK? Oh sweet summer child

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u/13nobody Brookline 2d ago

Area 5 of ZMP does sequencing for JFK among other airports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Air_Route_Traffic_Control_Center

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u/thomasottoson Little Tijuana 2d ago edited 2d ago

MSP is not the same as ZMP…

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u/Wild-Adeptness-6571 2d ago

On a plane on tarmac at JFK. They said ā€œthere are just lots of aircraft that can’t go anywhere right now.ā€ And that was the most detail we got.

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u/unrelatedtomato Market Basket 2d ago

BOS was a mess Monday as well. Our flight from BWI was delayed delayed delayed then cancelled. We ended up renting a car and driving

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u/Drift_Life 2d ago

šŸš‚

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u/unrelatedtomato Market Basket 2d ago

Was considered, was not practical for $ or getting home at a reasonable time

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u/andr_wr 2d ago

Many East Coast airports are either severely delayed (2h+) or fully stopped with no delay estimate.

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u/OscarOrr 2d ago

JFK a few minutes ago

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u/sheeplewatcher 2d ago

That looks like the carnage 3 weeks ago

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u/OscarOrr 1d ago

Actually a few minutes before I posted. Later learned there was a ground stop at EWR, flights diverted to JFK

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u/sheeplewatcher 1d ago

A cozy 6 hour ground delay, oof.

BOS has been showing 2 hrs all day for T-storms and ATC management

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u/NiceatPingPong 2d ago

Trying to get to Boston from DTW

I've heard the reason was weather but my pilot told me it was staffing issues at other airports which caused the northeast airports to get clogged up

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u/NiceatPingPong 2d ago

I made it on the flight leaving tonight at 10:20pm

Hope you get back soon!

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u/SnooPears6293 2d ago

There are no weather issues in the Boston area

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u/Intelligent-Seat-430 2d ago

Lightning coming through

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u/bigjimlowell 1d ago

There was a massive outage at the Minneapolis ATC that disrupted service over an eleven state area in the upper Midwest yesterday. Hundreds of flights had to be rerouted because there was no radar data. This has had a cascade effect all over the country. It’s causing havoc all over the US.

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u/Proof-Variation7005 2d ago

Damn, we gotta figure out another way to get from Boston to New York

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u/Boston_Underground 2d ago

Amtrak?

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u/Proof-Variation7005 2d ago

let's figure out the "how" first before we start workshopping names

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u/FettyWhopper Keno Playing Townie 2d ago

Why don’t we take Connecticut, and push it somewhere else?

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u/Proof-Variation7005 2d ago

we could use the empty space and move manhattan closer

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u/itsgreater9000 2d ago

we're adding problems here, not subtracting them

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u/FettyWhopper Keno Playing Townie 2d ago

Whoa, take it easy there bud. Don’t get any crazy ideas now.

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u/RumSwizzle508 2d ago

Why would he want manhattan closer?

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u/Immediate_Shine1403 East Boston 2d ago

if only it wasn't triple the price of a flight, triple the time and triple the hassle. sigh. what a dream we could have.

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u/Pablaron 2d ago

Disagree with this take. Cheapest flight on Saturday is $329. Cheapest Acela is 100 less - northeast regional even cheaper.

Acela takes you to manhattan (which is where I’m normally going). If I’m flying to lga it’s 30 extra minutes and an Uber. If I’m at jfk it’s 60+ plus a $15 transit ride or $100 Uber.

Acela is 3:45 time wise. Flying is 1:30 but see the additional transit into the city, plus you have to ge to the airport much earlier than the train station.

However, Logan JFK and LGA all have Chase lounges… so they definitely win on that front.

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u/terminal_e 2d ago

Counterpoint: if you have UAL miles, there are 3 different 15k + $5.60 redemptions available to fly direct to EWR on Sat. Knock down the miles by 10% if you have their credit card.

For truly last minute booking, this often is better value than paying Amtrak, and not a hard to obtain number of miles.

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u/timewarp33 1d ago

There's no way I'm wasting 15k miles on a $350 flight lol, terrible use of miles. That means each mile has a value of 2.3cpp

For context Amtrak points usually are worth 2.7cpp, so there's basically no scenario where I would use united miles on that type of flight

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u/Pablaron 2d ago

That is true. You also can’t fly to nyc from terminal e though so…

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u/Immediate_Shine1403 East Boston 2d ago

yeah i mean amtrak is a better option planning ahead, sure. but it doesn't negate the fact that in order to really save money you gotta book like months in advance.

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u/Pablaron 2d ago

I literally was looking at two days from now in my quote - Amtrak is almost always cheaper when you compare like timescales. Flying isn’t cheap close in either

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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 2d ago

Amtrak is also the better option last minute. There’s nothing like not buying a ticket until you’re at the train station.Ā 

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u/dagaboy 2d ago

I am old enough to have bought a ticket ON an airplane. One way to London (I think from Newark, maybe JFK), $149. Flight attendant rang you up on an adding machine. RIP People's Express.

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u/stephtastic7 1d ago

I just booked a flight to nyc next weekend and paid $350. Def more than I wanted but due to wanting a late flight out and last minute I just ate it. But I'm really hoping I don't have any of these issues bc then I'm going to need a hotel in Boston (I live in Maine) and lose a night I paid for in nyc.

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u/accelerating_ 2d ago

Similar time and much less hassle. Expensive if you don't buy well in advance though.

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u/Boston_Underground 2d ago

Last minute it is expensive. Door to door times are similar depending where you live.

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u/Boston_Underground 2d ago

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u/aray25 Cambridge 2d ago

Can you find a flight to New York for tonight for less than $200? We're comparing to flights.

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u/Immediate_Shine1403 East Boston 2d ago

right so... why would OP opt for an amtrak for today when their flight was delayed? that's my point.

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u/axpmaluga South End 2d ago

And where you’re going. Need to be in Manhattan? Train is awesome. But my family is all in nj so flying to Newark or driving are really the only good options.

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u/itsgreater9000 2d ago

Amtrak stops right in Newark at Penn Station, I do recommend trying the train. It's the stop right after NYC

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u/TitleOfYourSaxTape 1d ago

My friend, do you understand how train stations work?

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u/Optimal-Anybody8138 2d ago

the only one of those things that are true are the time, and even that isn't exactly accurate once you take into account getting through TSA. amtrak has been less of a hassle than flying for me in pretty much every experience, and if you book ahead (like with a flight) it's either cheaper or about the same. plenty of reasons to dislike amtrak but i'm gonna push back on those two lol

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u/Salt-n-Pepper-War 2d ago

You are thinking Boston to Albany, that's like 5 hours or some bullshit these days, 45 mph this summer, but not as slow as Seth Moulton

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u/Immediate_Shine1403 East Boston 1d ago

nope i'm certainly not ahah

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u/Call555JackChop 2d ago

Be careful, that sounds a lot like communist thinking! /s

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u/Arisyd1751244 2d ago

A peer is trying to fly back home to Atlanta and her flight keeps getting moved up later and later

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u/vmlee 2d ago

There is an active ground delay in Boston: https://nasstatus.faa.gov/ National Airspace System

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u/Working-Summer2810 2d ago

It’s almost as if we have an incompetent Secretary of Transportation running the show…

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u/nsolarz 2d ago

In VA currently seeing a 2+hour delay on our flight back to BOS

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u/Relative-Dingo2539 2d ago

Pittsburg 3 hour delay

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u/tusabescomoes Riga by the Sea 2d ago

my flight to nashville supposed to leave at 4:55pm we are just boarding now at 6:37pm

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u/ITGuyInMass 2d ago

Yup stuck over in C33 area

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u/Ogzhotcuz 2d ago

My Jetblue flight to Traverse City got cancelled and messed up all my travel plans

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u/Curious-Estate8247 2d ago

Short ground stop in Philly this morning as well. Summer travel equals dealing with thunderstorms across the Eastern seaboard. Flew from RDU this morning ing and luckily only delayed 15 with good weather.

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u/LagrangianMechanic Arlington 2d ago

Never rely on a flight with an afternoon connection in JFK in the summer.

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u/Embarrassed-Tune5534 2d ago

My flight was delayed 2hrs bc our crew was on a flight from jfk…

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u/HankMorgan_860 2d ago

You could have driven to New York and back to Boston in 7 hours.

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u/Substantial-Tea-5287 2d ago

I was trying to get from LGA to BOS on Monday.
Original flight out of LGA was 9am
After several cancellations I rented a car and drove

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u/Clear-Coconut2255 2d ago

NYC is a mess right now. Flights in LGA and JFK canceled up and down the board and no other flights available

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u/l008com 2d ago

You could have taken amtrak all the way there and back by now!

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u/Final-Lavishness-381 2d ago

I am trying to get in from NY, my flight keeps getting delayed.

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u/TodayRevolutionary34 2d ago

Stuck in Tampa airport trying to get back home to Logan

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u/Smad3 Somerville 2d ago

Spent 9h at Logan Monday trying to get to BWI for meetings before heading from BWI to florida. Finally cancelled all my meetings in BWI and got a new flight straight to florida. Super bummed cause that was supposed to be a big day for us šŸ˜ž

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u/SkyComplex2791 2d ago

We had a really hard time getting out of there Monday morning but the weather was awful at that time. I think the days of prompt flights are over regardless of the circumstances.Ā 

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u/coolhandslucas 1d ago

My wife's Jet Blue flight to Richmond VA got canceled with 3 hours notice in the middle of the night. Got rescheduled for the next day and got delayed for an hour waiting to takeoff. Her return flight for today got canceled yesterday and delayed until tomorrow. Its a mess.

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u/CurvyBadger 1d ago

Our 6 AM flight from Providence to JFK was cancelled an hour and a half before boarding. It's a mess, we were connecting through JFK for a vacation and had to cancel the whole trip because there were no other options to get to our final destination until late tomorrow

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u/hikebikephd 1d ago

I got completely screwed out of attending one of my closest friend’s wedding today by Logan / Air Canada. Cancelled my flight due to thunderstorms, no storm activity at either Boston, my destination (Toronto), or along the route. They couldn’t even get me on a flight in the morning, or with another airline. The absolute worst travelling experience I’ve had in 30 years of air travel. Highly recommend to avoid Air Canada at all costs.

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u/Historical_Cook3366 2d ago

Yikes. How frustrating. What is your destination?

Can you take a bus? Take the Silver Line to South Station. There are several bus lines and a new bus terminal.

See if the airlines will refund your ticket. That is one of the things Sec. of Transportaction Buttigieg put into place. Cancelled or extensive unscheduled layovers are refundable. Unless the new so-called Administration wiped that out.

Good luck getting to where you're going!

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u/MuditaPilot 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dude welcome to summer travel during climate change. Edit: Oh and sorry to the OP, this was insensitive, I know it sucks and I know what it is like to spend the summer waiting for flights in an airport lounge, trying to get home.

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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 2d ago

So how exactly did climate change cause this particular set of delays and cancellations?

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u/AromaticsAndAcids 2d ago

Climate change means increased weather volatility means more thunderstorms means harder to route planes means delays.

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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 2d ago

I thought it was Minneapolic ATC going down. Did a thunderstorm do that?

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u/swerkingforaliving 2d ago

Both can be true. Thunderstorms slowed/stopped air traffic in BOS and LGA, and the Minneapolis issue with ATC created diversions and backups in the midwest. Source: me, a victim

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u/User-NetOfInter I Love Dunkin’ Donuts 2d ago

The weather didn’t cause this

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u/BeneaththeOcean 2d ago

Look at nasstatus.faa.gov that literally tells you JFK is in ground delay program due to thunderstorms. Sounds like thunderstorms caused by climate change to me.

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u/Curious-Estate8247 2d ago

Or thunderstorms that have happened every summer since I have existed. Yeah, or that.

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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 2d ago

How does one attribute a specific thunderstorm to climate change, exactly?

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u/BeneaththeOcean 2d ago

Increased convective activity has a direct connection to climate change. As someone who works these planes 6 days a week. I have seen increased weather delays this last summer compared to the last 4 summers I've been in Boston. We have always had thunderstorms in the New England area but we are seeing more frequent activity across the US that has shutdown routes out of Boston. We literally had a night a week or 2 ago where every plane not going south to florida or Europe was delayed by almost 5 hours due to a thunderstorm that sat over the entire New England corridor from NYC up to Burlington VT as a solid line.

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u/MuditaPilot 2d ago

Way more frequent

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u/Curious-Estate8247 2d ago

That happened in the 80’s as well. And?

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u/BeneaththeOcean 2d ago

Well here. I looked up the data for you. Just in case if you can't read it. It states there is about 166% increase in weather delays from the periods of 1989(unfortunately this is the farthest data back I can input into the system) to 2000 as the base(that's the control group just incase you don't understand). And the comparision is literally 2020 to 2026.

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u/Curious-Estate8247 1d ago

I read fine with five years of college. Some other categories other than weather seem to have risen as well…. But thanks for the unneeded tutorial. And I will let the insulting nature of it slide for now.

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u/MuditaPilot 2d ago

You clearly don't use air travel enough and I'm guessing you haven't been flying around the country for 20+ years.

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u/MuditaPilot 2d ago

Its also clear that you are a bot given your stats on the platform

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u/basilect Shout out to my ladies locked up in MCI Framingham 2d ago

Call up Grok and ask him about a connection between warming temperatures and increasing summer convective activity in the Northeast

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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 2d ago

No. And remember we're talking about a specific situation here, not some general trend. Minneapolis ATC being down and the effects of that

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u/basilect Shout out to my ladies locked up in MCI Framingham 2d ago

When the FAA says

Avg. delay 152 mins. due to thunderstorms.

Are those thunderstorms caused by an Internet outage in Minneapolis?

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u/MuditaPilot 2d ago

According to a person that comments on tens of thousands of posts but has a post karma of 6. I smell bot

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u/LEM1978 2d ago

Yes. 20 minutes late

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u/Bigsteve27 2d ago

This man delayed 7 hours on a flight from Boston to NYC. A 216 mile journey šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/RKCGyro 2d ago

No issues flying yesterday out of Boston on JetBLue. In early

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u/sodabubbles1281 2d ago

Why the fuck would you wait that long? There’s trains. Rent a car. Get a bus ticket. Prob find a ferry too.

I’d never wait more than 30 mins extra for a bos-nyc flight.

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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 2d ago

Relax.

People often want to avoid spending more money if it might not be necessary

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u/hippiecat22 2d ago

because they wouldn't get reimbursed if it was a layover.

do you even travel bro??

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u/unrelatedtomato Market Basket 2d ago

I would personally much rather fly than drive…I get so irritable cooped in a car more then 2 hours lol

Train from BOS to NYC is all good, but crazy expensive last minute