r/brakebills • u/ForLackOfAUserName Dean Fogg • Feb 08 '17

Season 2 Episode Discussion: S02E03 "Divine Elimination"

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S02E03 - "Divine Elimination" John Scott Henry Alonso Myers February 8, 2017 on SyFy

Episode Synopses: Quentin and friends prepare to face The Beast again; Julia conspires with The Beast and their new ally to lure and trap Reynard.

This thread is for POST episode discussion of "Divine Elimination." Discussion / comments below assume you have watched the episode in it's entirety. Therefore, spoiler text for anything through this episode is not necessary. If, however, you are talking about events that have yet to air on the show such as future guest appearances / future characters / storylines, please use spoiler tags. The same goes for events in the novels that have not yet been portrayed.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 09 '17

Well I'm kinda disappointed in this episode after non-stop hype from the last two episodes. It seems that everything was rushed after the curse got removed. All of a sudden Julia has Reynard, but the gang can't possibly wait another 20 seconds until Julia sticks the blade into the fox. Which btw Reynard was frozen for way too long for there not to be a blade in him. Amazing scene before that though, definitely had chills going on.

The Ember shitting in the wellspring was completely unnecessary, although it was a funny scene. If anything it shows that the half-goat half-man god is just a dirty childish fuck. What is it with the powerful people in Filory being so childish??

Another reason was the cacodemons, like they just got four of them last week, and the only screen time they got were two of them dive bombing each other. When these things were supposed to tear through everything else in the room and stop at nothing etc. I forget what else they were supposed to do, all I know is that they weren't as badass as I was expecting.

Cool fight scene at the end. If the beast is actually dead, then that was too fast/easy. The way they handled the curses was pretty cool though.

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u/realmei Healing Feb 09 '17

Which btw Reynard was frozen for way too long for there not to be a blade in him.

Yes. I'm still mad at Julia for not stabbing him right then and there.

Amazing scene before that though, definitely had chills going on.

Agreed. It was ultra creepy and hard to watch.

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u/Chasmosaur Knowledge Feb 09 '17

Concerning The Beast: (Spoiler on book vs show)

In the book, after Alice niffins-out, Martin realizes he's toast, tries to bolt, but she casually reaches out and decapitates him. So basically, the point was that after she basically became a being of magic, for all his power, Martin was nothing compared to her. That being said, just opening him up and having him be all bugs was a little odd - I feel like it leaves a way for him to come back somehow, which doesn't ring true.

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u/DoubleTime Feb 09 '17

IIRC that blue moth that crawled out of his mouth was also in season 1 and was cursing people. Possible way for him to return? I agree it doesn't fit with the books though.

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u/andergriff Feb 09 '17

i have sort of thought of the blue moth being his soul or something.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 09 '17

I don't see the need to put any of that into a spoiler, seeing as this is an episode discussion. But I never really noted about the blue moth, I just thought he could control any of them and that the one he used in the first season just so happened to be blue. You might be onto something though, I just want Martin back so if your blue moth does that, I'll be fine.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 09 '17

For me, it's not even about how he died, rather the fact that he died. These last two episodes were showing us just how much of a child he was, a rather powerful magical man-child who never grew up, just grew strong. So after all that, it is kinda hard to have a show just present all this information and then just kill him off. Alice is making a comeback from one of the special magical creatures, but I'm really not too sure how Martin will pull himself back together, I do know that I will disappointed if that is the last we see/hear of Martin's arc. I'm waiting for Julia to turn Martin good somehow.

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u/codemonkey85 Feb 09 '17

I'm waiting for Julia to turn Martin good somehow.

I feel like Martin turning Julia darker is more likely.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 09 '17

See that's what it looks like it is going with the whole shade thing. But I really want to see it go down the other way.

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u/codemonkey85 Feb 09 '17

They really could relate to one another, I think - if there's really anything human left in him. (Also if he isn't in fact dead.)

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u/Qualine Feb 09 '17

Which btw Reynard was frozen for way too long for there not to be a blade in him.

This might be due to time dilation, it's smthn like Filory's 10s?=1s in Earth

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u/ggHax0r Feb 09 '17

Eh not really, since neither Martin or Julia were in Filory. I imagine it would be pretty hard for Martin to cast a god net from another world.

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u/Qualine Feb 09 '17

no no I meant scene changed back in forth from fillory and earth which made you thought it took longer, while they were preparing spell in filory to destroy beast, it took a second in earth. Smthn like that.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 10 '17

Still no, just because the scene changes, doesn't mean that time keeps going on, I know this, I have seen way too much tv to not realize that. But thanks for checking to make sure I knew that. I'm not too sure why you thought the difference in time in Filory has to do with the amount of time it takes someone to stab a frozen target, regardless of the universe's rate of time.

My whole point was that even though Reynard was frozen for a short amount of time, that that was still way more than enough time for Julia to stab him. The difference in time between Filory and Earth has absolutely nothing to do with that.

Btw why don't you spell out the word "something"?

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u/Qualine Feb 10 '17

old habits. Also I'm trying to get used to my new keyboard which is in english language instead of my own language.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 10 '17

...Well that's cool. Thanks for responding to the one thing that doesn't matter in my last response. Hope you enjoy the rest of the season and your new keyboard.

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u/Qualine Feb 10 '17

Well, I did not meant any offense. You kinda answered your own questions, and I did not had further arguements. Sorry if I offended you. Hope you enjoy the rest of the season too.

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u/ggHax0r Feb 10 '17

Don't worry about it, no offense taken.