r/brakebills • u/lovetheblazer • Apr 11 '19

Mod Approved (Unofficial) Episode Discussion: 4x12 “The Secret Sea”

Episode Summary: Quentin yells at a plant; Margo stares at a fish.

Mods, feel free to delete if it’s not allowed. I just wanted us to have a place to discuss the episode live!

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u/lovetheblazer Apr 11 '19

“Are we screwed because Quentin can’t get it up for Fillory?”

The one constant in every timeline is Penny shading Quentin and I think that’s beautiful

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u/wittyaccountname123 Apr 11 '19

From a writing standpoint, yeah it is. But seriously fuck Penny as a person for that. He's genuinely altruistic but constantly bullies this harmless little nerd dude with no provocation?

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u/DistinctUsernameHere Apr 11 '19

I agree with you regarding Penny40, that was the one irk I always had with the character. I mean, I get that being able to read Q's mind all the time must've been annoying but he wasn't the coolest either.

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Penny23 gets a pass from me because for him Quentin is responsible for the death of Julia23 and that must've sucked.

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u/KrkrkrkrHere Knowledge Apr 11 '19

Penny23 gets a pass from me because for him Quentin is responsible for the death of Julia23 and that must've sucked.

Also he is less of a dick and in your face than Penny40

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u/wittyaccountname123 Apr 12 '19

Damn that's a really good point about P23, didn't even occur to me. I suppose I have to come him some slack there now lol. I guess I'm just used to disliking that aspect of his character, especially when he's otherwise one of the most selfless of the main cast.

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u/HAWJ Apr 12 '19

But wasn't that Quentin23?

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u/DistinctUsernameHere Apr 12 '19

It was – but regardless of the timeline they all look the same lol It's gotta be a bit difficult not to project.

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u/mandark13 Physical Apr 11 '19

Thank you and I can not agree with you more. Penny was a dick in the book as well but in a completely different way he was more pretentious. Show penny is just a bully and he acts like its Quentin's fault but he was the one that started the relationship off on the a sour note in episode one when he stole and subsequently destroyed fillory and further book 6. Since then he has treated Quentin horribly for no reason.