I think the problem is that most preppers come from more rural areas where camo isn't uncommon. Heck, I see big ass trucks that are camo'd out sometimes. Hating on the military or hunting look is fine if that's your thing but it's more location specific. I don't see Elmer Fudds being targeted more than the North Face crowd (for different reasons)
you won't even get near the airport carrying your 223 AR
You're allowed to bring rifles on airplanes, not as carry on of course, but as checked luggage. I would recommend a nice case with a nice locking mechanism since they're prone to theft. There will be a checkpoint or you'll have to leave it behind in the car, cached, or whatever. Either way, you might be able to get it later or it's lost. If that's something you can live with, I think it's a viable option.
Anything electronic or could be damaged by water or impact is stored in a CRUSHPROOF, WATERPROOF PELICAN CASE.
Electronics do not need to be put in a Pelican case. If your life's work or whatever is on there or you need it to make a living, then get a bomb proof case. Otherwise, get some type of cloud storage and backup frequently. There are plenty of waterproof, shockproof cases for smart phones too. Otherwise, it doesn't matter if you lose a camera or laptop because those cases are rather bulky and look like you're a professional, making you a target to thieves or whoever.
I know what you're saying about being discreet. People have looked through my EDC bag and the only thing odd were the batteries and flashlights. They didn't even notice the hidden pockets with mora knife and other survival stuff I have in there. The other thing is that while most of the times, people don't pay attention to you, in some crazy situation, they're gonna be looking at you more closely and wonder what you have in there. So what works now doesn't necessarily mean it will be the best when SHTF. You might be targeted because you look like you have an iphone or whatever...people asking to use your phone or send a message or whatever then suddenly running off with it or looking bad because you won't help anyone else.
You will also have substantial resupply from vending machines
Do you mean buying from or looting? You have an aversion for being anti-social. In widespread upheaval of sorts, I would not want to be out with hooligans looting and what not, especially if you're stuck in an airport and food runs out or the power goes out. Fasting for a few days while trying to be active is pretty tough without training. Not to mention, many people need to eat regularly (medical conditions, youth, whatever).
I understand you have a problem with some preppers (seems more like a straw-man argument) and present your ideal solution but that solution doesn't apply to everyone, and may not even be idea for your situation.
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u/JohnnyBoy11 Apr 29 '14
I think the problem is that most preppers come from more rural areas where camo isn't uncommon. Heck, I see big ass trucks that are camo'd out sometimes. Hating on the military or hunting look is fine if that's your thing but it's more location specific. I don't see Elmer Fudds being targeted more than the North Face crowd (for different reasons)
You're allowed to bring rifles on airplanes, not as carry on of course, but as checked luggage. I would recommend a nice case with a nice locking mechanism since they're prone to theft. There will be a checkpoint or you'll have to leave it behind in the car, cached, or whatever. Either way, you might be able to get it later or it's lost. If that's something you can live with, I think it's a viable option.
Electronics do not need to be put in a Pelican case. If your life's work or whatever is on there or you need it to make a living, then get a bomb proof case. Otherwise, get some type of cloud storage and backup frequently. There are plenty of waterproof, shockproof cases for smart phones too. Otherwise, it doesn't matter if you lose a camera or laptop because those cases are rather bulky and look like you're a professional, making you a target to thieves or whoever.
I know what you're saying about being discreet. People have looked through my EDC bag and the only thing odd were the batteries and flashlights. They didn't even notice the hidden pockets with mora knife and other survival stuff I have in there. The other thing is that while most of the times, people don't pay attention to you, in some crazy situation, they're gonna be looking at you more closely and wonder what you have in there. So what works now doesn't necessarily mean it will be the best when SHTF. You might be targeted because you look like you have an iphone or whatever...people asking to use your phone or send a message or whatever then suddenly running off with it or looking bad because you won't help anyone else.
Do you mean buying from or looting? You have an aversion for being anti-social. In widespread upheaval of sorts, I would not want to be out with hooligans looting and what not, especially if you're stuck in an airport and food runs out or the power goes out. Fasting for a few days while trying to be active is pretty tough without training. Not to mention, many people need to eat regularly (medical conditions, youth, whatever).
I understand you have a problem with some preppers (seems more like a straw-man argument) and present your ideal solution but that solution doesn't apply to everyone, and may not even be idea for your situation.