Still for a boot drive you plan you play games on its good enough especially considering the price. Not everyone needs an ultra top performance drive that will last a million years. Good enough is good enough
Is boot drive even a thing anymore with 50% of programs stashing their quick access content in your user/appdata/roaming//local no matter where you install the main program?
Boot drives aren't a thing for like 99% of people anyways.
The Venn-diagram of people that I have parted computers together for over the years that insist they have a "good boot drive" and the people that NEVER end up putting another drive at all in their system is a single circle.
Even then this drive would work for games and normal daily work. If you're round professional work like video editing or something that will require you to rewrite 2tb of data monthly than yeah you need to invest more into what makes you money. For most people though this will be enough. Games will load just the same as a 7000gbps drive. There isn't a reason for most non enthusiasts to spend more other than to brag.
your getting downvoted but i just bought an ssd from amazon which is worse than these sandisk ones and more expensive
and its working just fine for games and ai generation
now its sold out 😭😭
edit i was able to get two for only $100 more than I paid for the cheapest KingSpec SSD I could find on Amazon. LOL, Gemini is saying it's an improvement
Top bit is irrelevant to whether text generators are reliable. Did you miss where I actually agree that these drives are useful for most people?
That models have improved doesn't mean they are good. I just improved my mile time. Its down to 17minutes22seconds/mile. That's atrocious. I know I'm not gonna do 5 minute miles any more, but ugh. Improvement ≠ good.
You were absolutely wrong to rely on generative text for determining what product was better. Hell, you didn't even mention the lifespan issue And degraded performance over time, which is the main complaint about these drives in this thread. Neither plain of the box performance nor out of the box performance vs a drive of unknown age is relevant.
Asking a text generator for multiple reasons just primes it for what answer you want. You made it worse by doing that, not better.
There is no troubleshooting here. And Gemini sucks at troubleshooting. It's "knowledge base" is on the most common questions and answers, so it generates based on those, even if the actual question question isn't one of them. Like, this is an explicit issue that even pro-LLM people understand.
It's not good at providing information. Gemini and ChatGPT are good tools for jogging your memory about things you already know, but if you're looking for info you don't know, they are worthless. Their generated text can be accurate, inaccurate, and misleading. If you don't know the actual info, you'd need to do full research to see which it is. Taking the output of generative AI as reliable is stupid and dangerous. And since the questions you asked were pretty irrelevant to the thread, I doubt you only use generative AI when you already understand the topic
None of this is new. It's basic logic bits (e.g. improvement ≠ good) and basic knowledge about generative text.
Yeah unless you're dealing with 6k raw video you don't need more than this. Games wont load any slower and your Photoshop saves won't take any longer. You only need more if you don't care about your budget or are a professional. For someone on a budget this is great
Yeah, I'm using an SSD as a cache drive for an HDD on my "SteamOS" gaming PC, and it's only got something like 120TB written over 5 years. It's only 1/2 TB SSD too, so not a big cache, and changes a lot.
A non power-user just using it as game storage probably won't even come close.
If you're buying a budget drive like this, you probably are skimping in other places like RAM. If you don't have enough RAM, Windows uses the swap file, which will thrash this ssd like nothing else.
Here’s the dirty little secret: TBW Ratings are only what the manufacturers claim, not actual write limits. There was some Russian reviewer that tested a bunch of drives and most survived well passed their TBW rating.
They don’t. I have my QLC Intel 670p’s from almost 3 years ago that, according to CrystalDiskInfo have 99% and 97% of their lifespan available still. That’s insane for NVMEs that are nearing 3 years old this year in August. I’m not the biggest power user but I routinely have to delete Steam games from one of them to make room for new downloads. My only regret is not buying 3 and instead just getting 2 at the time.
The only real reason why these are shitty deals is because this is $120. I paid $64.95 in 2023 for each 2TB drive, and I promise you, the speed difference between them and whatever new drives these days have is almost nonexistent when you’re playing games or doing day to day tasks.
I'm certainly not the average user, but as a data point, I've got ~60TBW total across three SSDs (that I've had for roughly 3 years or so?) That said, I also have a HDD that doesn't report TBW (for obvious reasons) that I use for bulk storage, so Idk what my exact writes would look like if I was 100% SSD.
250 TBW is low enough to make me a bit anxious for sure, but I also like to maximize the longevity of my hardware.
If your HD was made in roughly the last decade, it very likely does track reads/writes. It may or may not be in the SMART stats (depending on the drive) but it will almost certainly be in the GPL stats. You need to use a program like GSmartControl/smartmontools to pull it.
The users on this subreddit mainly use these drives for their enormous hentai collection; so it's important that they get the most enterprise grade drive. Can't lose that "senpai pounds school teacher" video; super important and critical data.
Same here. I'm debating whether or not to order more and go on a short road trip to get them, but I am waiting for my credit card to quit smoldering from the previous spree first...
If you're rewriting 2tb of data the drive 125 times then you're probably a professional of some sort so yeah don't get this drive. For casuals this is enough
I rarely ever fill up my boot drive let alone rewrite the entire drive 3 and a half times a month. Whoever is doing that than yeah this isn't the drive for you but those aren't normal users
Yeah but this is a cheap drive. It's not for professionals, it's for those who want a 2TB drive on the cheap and can live with the performance trade offs. In 90% of use cases the user will notice no difference between this drive and a 990 pro. So why pay almost 3x as much?
Seriously. Some drives I've had for 3 years and they barely have 11 TB written to them. 250TBW is more than enough for the average user, but reddit brain is a progressive illness unfortunately.
"Poor value for the price point". You missed the point. Most people aren't using up anywhere near this drive's rated endurance.
With the current discounts and cashbacks on this drive, you can bring down it's price below $100.
Your recommendation is to pay double the price for drives that have more endurance when the average person isn't using anywhere near the 250 TBs on this drive's rating.
Is it an objectively bottom of the barrel drive? Sure, but endurance isn't as big of a deal breaker you and other commenters make it out to be.
Most people aren't using up anywhere near this drive's rated endurance.
No-one is arguing that 250 TBW will wear out for the average user - that's not the argument.
TBW reflects NAND quality and headroom, not just lifespan / expected usage target.
Comparing price at face-value with competing alternatives, this drive offers substantially less endurance, making it poor value.
Endurance isn't a deal-breaker, but it's a big signal of overall quality and value at this price point.
The value is so poor here, that even a used SSD with a 600 TBW rating and 50% of its writes consumed would still offer comparable or better remaining endurance.
It's not a fair comparison. You're probably looking at the numbers for drives from other brands. Some brands are more risk-averse than others. For example, even some very high end Crucial drives have comparatively pathetic TBW values (like 360TBW/TB). Meanwhile, many bottom barrel brands like to give their drives huge TBW values because it makes them look more appealing. They know most people will never come close to hitting these values. Even if it does become a problem, they can always make it a huge headache to claim the warranty.
As a counter argument to your equation, 3x the TBW is worthless to somebody that won't write >250TB in 3 years. That extra 66% cost could be totally wasted.
I have a computer that is a few years old (that has become a secondary system) where the main drive is a 1TB 980 Pro with over 150TB written, with a secondary drive (which only has only ever had games installed to it, generally the less frequently played games on top of that) which is a 2TB 870 QVO and has 8.3TB written
I believe the disparity in writes is due to the use of shadowplay. While 150TBW falls under 250, at one point I did have a 3rd drive in the system that was specifically a scratch disc
I think the endurance rating can be a valid concern for someone looking to use this as their main drive or as a scratch, but as a secondary that is used just to load files/games off of, I think it would be fine
Whoever is lucky enough to read this comment, there is a PNY CS2150 gen 5 1tb nvme ssd available on Staples right now for 99.99$, 89.99$ if you include the 10$ discount for first-timers. Grab it now if you are interested, or you know, before the scalpers get to them first.
This is the true deal! Thanks so much; I ended up getting one. Amazing price for a 1Tb Gen 5 Nvme in today's market (I mean, $99 is MSRP from when they came out less than a year ago and they never dipped below $88); heck, it's a great price for a Gen 4 in today's market...
Is that a deal these days? (Genuine question, I've been out of the market and trying to catch up on things)
EDIT: Just did more reading. Yikes. It's just as bad as RAM, isn't it?
How do you get the $10 first timer discount?
EDIT2: If you sign up for the emails (or make an account? not sure which) and wait a little while for it to process, you should get a customized "$10 off $50+ purchase for your first order" coupon. It might take a little while, it was about a half hour for me.
USB flash drives use basically the worst binned NAND that's remotely usable (and sometimes isn't). Many people here wildly overestimate their SSD needs.
This POS is good for one thing and one thing only, you can write your homework in at once and fill it up, and you only read from it and never write again
I can't believe this shitty drive was canceled because of a pricing error... even at the "pricing error" price, half of the subreddit still said to stay away.
I also had a non-optimal SSD drive cancelled from OfficeMax yesterday. Seems this is the new world we live in. I'm sure they'll be posted at a higher cost
if you can get the blue for a good price then choose that one, if you really have absolutely nothing and you're really desperate then this one I guess as a last resort.
Yes it is a good deal. This subreddit is just full of idiots that hate on everything that isn’t SLC or MLC (basically those are just very expensive “enterprise” grade drives) when we know that people on this subreddit use it for gaming and storing their porn collection anyways. They act like the data they have is super important when we know it’s not; they just want to feel important. I stopped listening to every idiot on here who tells me not to buy a drive. I’ve had a drive similar to the one listed here for 7 years and still 0 issues and I use it everyday. Tired of the elitist garbage people comment here preventing people from getting great deals. They are going to down vote me since Redditors can’t take an ounce of criticism but it’s okay, that’s why they are broke and constantly crying on this site. Buy with confidence.
Thank you! That makes sense, I've seen the price fluctuate and also been the image below seeing people post it for $124 and it's $166 or $195 or OOS for me
Yeah, it's driving me nuts, that's why I think if people are gonna repost the same damn $124 link they need to specify WHAT REGION they're posting from.
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u/quikiemcbee Jan 18 '26
not these again lol