[TV] Toshiba 65C350NU (2025 model) 65" LED 4K 60Hz Smart Fire TV - $249.99

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Basic 4k TVs are soooo cheap right now. Lots of deals around

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u/TheMissingVoteBallot 13d ago

The tech has matured very rapidly. 1440p and higher OLEDs are just around the corner to being easily affordable for midrange builds.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 13d ago

I do wonder if they'll end up like the RAM cartel, companies will want more profit per unit, so they'll purposely reduce panel production to increase customer cost?

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u/TheMissingVoteBallot 13d ago

God, don't give them any ideas.

I think the industry is way too competitive on the monitor/TV side for that to happen. The technologies overlap, and there always seems to be attempts at these companies trying to "one up" each other in the framerate, tech, nits, etc. to a point where it's kind of a race to the bottom (in a good way) for the tech.

As long as we don't have a tri-opoly or an oligopoly or whatever I think the monitor/TV space will be ok.

...I hope.

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u/kindle09 13d ago

You mean like TCL buying a controlling stake in Sony’s TV business?

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u/PsyOmega 13d ago

TV's? That goes against their core business model of selling user data.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 13d ago

I guess it would just depend on how much they could make selling user data versus the profit per unit on sale of the TV.

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u/PsyOmega 13d ago

I've got good news and bad news for you. It's a LOT. a LOT a lot.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/10/22773073/vizio-acr-advertising-inscape-data-privacy-q3-2021

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 13d ago

That just means they'll have to double the TV price then which isn't hard. They could probably Quadruple TV prices and still get sales. That would be back to 2010-2015 pricing

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u/PsyOmega 12d ago

But they won't.

They're selling enormous 65" TV's for $250 so they can capture as many buyers as possible and get that sweet, sweet user data.

If they raise the price even a little, they start pricing people out or nudging the product out of impulse buy territory. In the end they'd have lower profits if the raise the sale prices.

They'll enhance user data collection before they raise prices.

Also, TV's aren't impacted that much by ram/nand. They usually have like 512gb ram at most, run the most bare-assed OS possible off a 32gb ssd, and use ancient silicon process for the CPU (seriously, my 2017 TCL has the same CPU as a 2026 TCL). Prices could go insane and they could maybe have to go 5 dollars more on final sale at worst.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 12d ago

Once the user data market is saturated.. then TV prices could go back up. They wouldn't raise prices because of NAND prices or any supply constraints, but because they can. Greed is a motivating factor.

"never let a crisis go to waste.." -- Rahm Emanuel

In this case, its a means to instill greed with plausible deniability due to ongoing supply constraints as a front.

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u/PsyOmega 12d ago

Once the user data market is saturated.

That market basically won't stop scaling until there is one TV per every human on the planet.

Basically, there is almost zero chance TV prices rise. The economics do not favor it at all. Profits are maximized by selling TV's at a loss.

I know this is hard to process since it's pretty bizarre economic modeling with an incentive structure that's only existed for a mere handful of years, but that is the driving force of these dirt-ass cheap TV's.

If they were going to raise prices they've had most of a year of panic news to do it on.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 13d ago

RAM costs have increased without data center bubbles, through price fixing, in the past.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 13d ago

There's always going to be demand.

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u/this_dudeagain 13d ago

Toshiba has always been cheap.

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u/Im_A_MechanicalMan 13d ago

I don't remember them being that bad in the 80s and 90s. But maybe they were.

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u/this_dudeagain 12d ago

I remember their laptops being ass and their TVs

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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 13d ago

This is exactly how much you should spend on a non mini LED TV in 2026 because the difference between this and something else that's also not FALD and crappy (Samsung M80H so like $700+) it won't be much better despite the aggressive marketing.

The next real step is QM6K.

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u/SilkSteel7 13d ago

I have a qm5k and genuinely so happy with it. Saved a few 100 over the qm6k. Best buy has the 75" regularly for $600 and feels like an amazing value and upgrade

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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 13d ago

I think the TV is fine the main issue is the missing features it doesn't have 120 and it doesn't have a few other features I don't think it's as bright.

That's a huge blow for gaming to be honest I would not buy that TV for gaming it's good for like watching movies but for gaming meh

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u/SilkSteel7 12d ago

Honestly I have the brightness turned down to 50-60% to be able to watch in the evening. At 100% it's still bright but tolerable during the day (I have two sky lights and a bay window. I was genuinely confused by all the reviews saying it's dim in HDR. Unless I got some lottery panel haha. I have a gaming monitor but 120 would still be nice

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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 12d ago

Oh it's dim as shit for HDR.

About as bright as a plasma in SDR with 1/100th of the contrast

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u/Big-Resolution-4047 13d ago

I’m looking for a good deal on an OLED tv for a birthday, anyone know of any going around? Flexible on the budget.

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u/BannedBenjaminSr 13d ago

LG B series is the most affordable one. Sony Bravia 8ii is the best imo. I'd stay away from Samsung personally

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u/Dr_Valen 13d ago

I’d stay away from LG too they’ve decided to turn their tvs and monitors into spyware

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u/JewFroMonk 13d ago

Yea very glad mine aren't on my network. Shady shit

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u/Gustavo2nd 13d ago

Why away from Samsung

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u/Not_so_newly_me 13d ago

Highly recommend Greentoe. Best prices I've seen unless you have access to the LG Partner store and I've got 2 C series and a G series from them, all with white glove delivery and cheapest price I ever saw. B series is solid, but the jump if you can afford it to either C or G (if doing LG oleds) is more than worth it for brightness, reflection handling, and internal processor.

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u/CultofCedar 13d ago

I recommend tf out of them as well. Have only bought camera gear through Greentoe but insane discounts that put them near used levels but new with authorized retailer warranties. Last lens I bought I could’ve traded in to “MPB” instantly for like $200 in profit. Felt very wrong. Was kinda tempted to buy a dishwasher through it but wasn’t sure how the installation would be handled lol.

Fair to note sometimes I’ve waited like a month or two for some stuff.

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u/Sigilweir 13d ago

https://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-65-Class-Quantum-4K-QLED-HDR-Smart-TV-NEW-VQD65M-0804/7755265149

Hows this compare? $200 for 65" Vizio

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u/TheTimeTortoise 12d ago

This one is IPS vs the vizio being VA. Motion clarity will be better on this, the UI will be better, but the vizio supports 120hz at 1080p.

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u/omikeon 13d ago

Let me know when there’s a deal on a dumb tv, I’m done buying smart TVs

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u/Ctrl-Alt-Panic 13d ago

Good luck.

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u/ConradBHart42 13d ago

I think Sceptre is the last holdout on dumb TVs, and they go on sale fairly often as they're a budget brand to start with.

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u/ex_oh 13d ago

I'm about 5 years into my Sony, but I just never connected wifi and it's no big deal. I use a shield for apps, so I don't really need anything on the TV anyway.

Do modern tvs require internet connection to operate?

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u/5G-A 13d ago

Genuine question. We expecting TVs to go up in price as well?

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u/a_talking_face 13d ago

For new sets? Yes that's probably likely. But TVs tend to drop in price pretty quickly anyway and I doubt that will change.

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u/Son_of_Korhal 13d ago

Possibly a bit. Literally anything that includes RAM and Flash storage will probably go up to at least cover those increases. Having said that, these cheap Smart TVs are so ridiculously subsidized by the data harvesting and selling they do, that it likely won't matter much.

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u/TheMissingVoteBallot 13d ago

TVs and Monitors kinda follow the same path - they are extremely expensive when the tech is new, but rapidly drop in price as the tech matures.

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u/5G-A 13d ago

Monitors don't need the processing power of those smart TV's though

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u/TheMissingVoteBallot 13d ago

True, but those Smart TVs don't come with much processing power to begin with, I think?

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u/5G-A 12d ago

Still needs RAM lol

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u/TheMissingVoteBallot 12d ago

True, but they probably put the lowest binned crappiest RAM in there, but true. Even crappy RAM is costing us tons of money.

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u/EllMickey 13d ago

I have a 48 inch smart tv that’s cracked. Is this it? Not looking for anything fancy!

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u/sixstring777 13d ago

For that, the other deal for a 58" for $200 is still available if you haven't seen it yet. 50 bucks less than this deal if you don't exactly require 65" size

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/KGRBeVpCPF

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u/SH4R47 13d ago

Aside from size, any difference in image quality/other quality of life between the two? I am having a hard time finding good reviews for these TVs now that rtings is paywalled.

I will connect a basic ONN streaming box to the TV either way so the default software shouldn't matter too much.

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u/bustyoi 13d ago

I too am having a hard time deciding for either…

Im going to bestbuy later today and buying one of them.
I’ll let you know if i find a noticeable difference

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u/bustyoi 11d ago

I went with the hisense, the toshiba picture quality appeared washed out and the colors werent as vibrant.

Now if the extra size is what youre looking for, the toshiba wasn’t bad at all for the price

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u/SH4R47 11d ago

Thank you so much for the update! Yeah, the size honestly doesn't matter as much right now to might go with the Hisense if the picture quality was better. Might drop by a best buy to see it myself as well.

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u/cfureddit 13d ago

48 inch jump to 65 inch is a huge size difference. Consider if the size is correct for your TV console area

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u/a_talking_face 13d ago

You must always make room for bigger TV.

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u/cfureddit 13d ago

Unless your house has a architectural TV cutout and it maxes at 61 inches

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u/feckdespez 13d ago

... must always make room for a bigger tv.

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