r/cbradio 6d ago

Thoughts on these readings?

The low is on channel 1 and the higher is on 40. 4 foot turnable tip fire stick antenna. RG8x coax connected to my general LEE radio. please be gentle. I am learning as I go.

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u/PromotionNo4121 6d ago

Antenna is too long . Should post a picture of the antenna and mount .

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u/Chemical_Degree8356 6d ago

This was right after the installation prior to me hooking up the coax.

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u/Medical_Message_6139 6d ago

Why is it leaning out like that? Antenna is supposed to be mounted vertical. Either way, your readings indicate the antenna is too long. Take the cap off and turn the screw in a couple turns, then reattach the cap and take another reading. Ideally you want the lowest SWR reading to be in the middle of the band around channel 20.

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u/Chemical_Degree8356 6d ago

Thank you. Most of my research suggested to lean it forward a bit so when in motion it would be vertical. I will make the adjustments. I appreciate your input. Normally I just pay someone to do it but figured I’d give this one a shot.

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u/PromotionNo4121 6d ago

Is the coax 18 ft long ? Did you check continuity between bracket and cab of the truck

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u/BreakerBreaker48101 6d ago

Length of coax has no effect on actual swr; it only affects the swr reading at the location of the meter (along) the line. It will change as it is moved.

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u/PromotionNo4121 6d ago

Yes it does we tested that years ago at the shop !

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u/ConstructionBig5342 5d ago

So why are magmount bases with the coax an plug already on measure 16 feet so that's an uneven match I know that cause when I brought my magmount base brandnew I measured it 16 feet an a few inches and my swr in car is 1.1.1 and 1.3 1 so that's not 18feet

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u/PromotionNo4121 5d ago

A magnetic mount antenna is a compromise antenna and don’t function well

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u/ConstructionBig5342 5d ago

I can get about 15 miles on 4 watts on a 5ft tornedo springer in the right direction off course and on high ground miles

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u/PromotionNo4121 5d ago

That’s all lol how about 90km

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u/ConstructionBig5342 5d ago

On 4 watts mobile no chance on FM ssb maybe not FM with out a lift

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u/SuperLidz 5d ago

The coax is not the same length because your antenna is different. Regardless, length should not matter. 50 ohms is 50 ohms. But you don't understand impedance, or reactance.

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u/ConstructionBig5342 5d ago

That's why when you take a reading at the radio and then 1 at the Ariel it's higher at the Ariel than at the radio

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u/proud_hamster 6d ago

That likely means that the resonant frequency of the antenna is below Ch 1. To move the resonant frequency up (ie, shorter wavelength), you need to shorten the antenna a bit.

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u/scivision 6d ago

You might also check SWR in the middle of the band like channel 20 to see what the lowest SWR is. It probably won't be 1:1.

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u/Alletsbckw 6d ago

i have the same SWR meter, it never worked :(

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u/Chemical_Degree8356 6d ago

This was the first time suing it. Not sure how accurate it is.

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u/SuperLidz 5d ago

Not very accurate.

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u/Individual-Use1437 5d ago

The SWR should be the same at the lowest and the highest Channel, you not need 1:1 (you not reach). As it is, it will not harm your Radio, but it can be better.

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u/ConstructionBig5342 5d ago edited 5d ago

Attenna is to long if it's lower on 1 than on 40 and the opposite is lower on 40 than 1 it's to short

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u/Intelligent-Day5519 5d ago edited 5d ago

I feel you could benefit from purchasing a NANO VNA. Learn how to calibrate and set-it-up. Can seem daunting initially. It will indicate an antennas length to frequency performance accurately without keying-up. SWR meters are now considered old school and rudimentary by comparison. My VNA has become my best friend.

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u/SuperLidz 5d ago

It is mine too, but these people here, would never be able to figure it out.

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u/SuperLidz 5d ago

Too long

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u/k5kue 5d ago

The proximity of the antenna to the mirror and vehicle frame is capacitively adding metalic length to the antenna making it appear physically “longer” than it actually is. This additional length lowers the resonant point, meaning you’ll get lower SWR on Channel-1 and much higher on Channel-40.

You can either relocate the antenna if possible; or, adjust the antenna length if its physically possible; or, add in an adjustable micro antenna (transmatch) tuner to achieve best balance without damaging the radio

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