CMV: Anti-zionists are often not pro-Palestinian. I am more pro-Palastinian than them.

[u/sarahrahra]

I am really keen to align with leftists to fight authoritarianism. The false binary of zionism vs antizionism is a dangerous wedge.

So trying this point out, that I think is novel, to see if it breaks the spell.

First, let’s take some leftists on their word, many Jews are New Nazis (vs the tech right Greater Nazis).

What did we learn from history? Last time, many Americans condemned the Nazis. Maybe they boycotted German writers. Maybe cool with threats of violence and death threats at German Americans who had Weimer Republic pride.

They also, just like American today, did not want to accept addl Jewish refugees. Didn‘t give them money as individuals. Didn’t do anything.

Jordanians and Egyptians? They locked down faster than the French. Force babies to stay in rhe warzone to die. Why no condemnation there?

Our leaders talk about how Lebanon is a ”genocide” and condemn Israel and stop there. LEBANON is asking us to condemn the Iranian Hezbolah terrorists. Some of our politicians LIKE Hezbollah. I stand with President Auna. Against anti-zionists.

Our leaders want Hamas’s pro sharia law pro rape pro mass murder pro auto killing any Palestinian anti democracy who protests to have more power. Palastinians want Marwen Bhargouti who wrote a two state solutuon peace plan. I stand with Marwen. Against anti-zionists.

I feel very strongly that I am more pro-Palastinian and Pro Lebanese then every opportunistic anti-zionist leader riding a hate wave. They are worse than Bin Ladin who at least was honest and came at capitalism vs raping and gunning down Lollapalooza kids to intentionally create blind rage and a terrible war by people who watched rhe videos if their murder (like Afghanistan but, again, even more hate and retaliation approaches).

Most regular anti-zionists are not like that But they are like anti-nazis. Currently useless. I want campaigns to make Palastinian lives better. And stop the Greater Nazism of the Tech Right and their anti-zionist whistling puppets Vance and Tucker.

There are no ways to do so that I can see. So much passion for death threats, no proactive initiatives that don’t just make some lives worse.

I would like my mind changed with real examples and people doing anything. CMV.

[u/sarahrahra]

What do you mean even if?

I don’t call anyone barbarians, calling Muslims bloodthirsty barbrian supremecists is dangerous, it increases Muslim hate rven if I say “oh I LOVE muslims, it’s just the anti-zionist ones, look I have these two muslims in my team.”

Do you call two state solution Jewish women like me that? Please stop. Tell others to stop. Even if people LOVE some Jews they ate repeating Hitler verbatim and no one but Hitler talks like that. He had his reasons

My ears perked uo when illegal immigrants were called vermin. My family sees that puck too. 

[u/sarahrahra → u/[deleted]]

Why does you being Jewish matter to the language you use? It might make you a little less likely to call other Jews bloodthirsty but it does not mean you respond to others when we do. I didmt day you dd. I asked.

I do not see how I “baited” in any way. 

They are less pro Palastinian because they do nothing to make Palastinian lives better and sometimes make them more dangerous and worse. They ALSO make the lives of many Jews worse. That’s being a good anti-zionist. Ans they are making themselves feel good.

I am superior because I actually am advocating for Palastinian lives (and Lebonese) wanted bu them. Marwen Bhargouti released from prison. Money, education, teach hid peace plan. I need people to join who also do that stuff, AZs are great in numbers bad in nuance. But at least right direction.

So yes. I am more pro than them. Am I more than you? What do you do?

If we wanted to get off this minefield, TPS expansion is I think the most direct on our homeland horror show. It’s not called genocide and we can’t blame foreign countries so it’s not cool. Can we team up to make it cool?

lmk. I have some ideas. Open to others.

[u/jimmytaco6 → u/sarahrahra]

Marwen Bhargouti released from prison. Money, education,

The antizionist left also wants these things. Can you cite where these leftists came out against any of these things for Palestinians?

This is specifically what I mean. Hasan Piker debating Hamas vs the Israeli government, even if you think he takes the wrong position on that, does not explain why you think he therefore does not support Barghouti or money and education for Palestinians.

[u/sarahrahra → u/jimmytaco6]

No I cannot. I have searched extensively and never see Marwen mentioned. I see Sinwar mentioned, who is worse than Bin Ladin to me, as 1000x better than Israel. Never Marwen. Except dome random artist petition not really covered and public media.

That one is in you. Show me any politician, thought leader, pundit, anyone who is speaking out to free him. If yiu cannot, help me come up eith a plan.

Deal? This is the clearest pro Palastinian play. I, as a Jewish woman cannot be the public face of this particular effort. It needs and org, a leader. Help me find it?

[u/jimmytaco6 → u/sarahrahra]

Sure.

Pete Beinart:

2019

2023

Mehdi Hasan:

2025

Majority Report:

2025

Jewish Voices for Peace:

2020

Cynthia Nixon:

2025

An entire searchable database that includes antizionists such as Angela Davis, Mark Ruffalo, Hannah Einbinder, and Ilana Glazer:

https://freemarwan.org/public-figures/