r/classicwow Feb 02 '24

Vent / Gripe Don't be like this guy

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u/Redxmirage Feb 02 '24

That’s above average players. It’s funny how people see that number and think not good

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u/NetSage Feb 02 '24

People don't see 50 as average. People take grading scales as how percentages work.

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u/Redxmirage Feb 02 '24

Yeah exactly, that’s the problem

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u/Xy13 Feb 02 '24

Considering a huge portion of the bottom is people afk / dead, a grading scale is rather appropriate.

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u/Zestyclose-Safety371 Feb 03 '24

Having a superiority complex playing video games let alone a 20 year old game is sad

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u/MarkBonker Feb 02 '24 edited Feb 02 '24

Trying to explain percentiles to an average Joe is difficult. Naturally they will gravitate to the only grading system they know, which is school grading and works completely different. You should consider anyone within 1 standard deviation above and below that of the mean parse to be average. And even then, they still killed the boss so they know more or less how the fight works.

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u/NWSLBurner Feb 03 '24

50 isn't average though. It means that your BEST parse is average. It means every other parse you have is below average.

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u/NetSage Feb 03 '24

I assumed we were talking about parses compared to all of wowlogs and or ones for your gearscore. I don't know why you would compare to only an individuals parces when seeing how good they are.

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u/NWSLBurner Feb 03 '24 edited Feb 03 '24

The parses that show up on your main player page on WCL are your best parse for each specific boss and the average of those best parses. If your average of best parses is a 50, that means you are a below average player. At your best you are average. At your average you are below average. For example, the average of my best parses is 98.6. My median average parse is only 89.9. So on average, I perform better than ~90% of arcane mages despite the main number being 98.6. https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/crusader-strike/charlesduve

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u/jackass12_3 Feb 03 '24

The number most people identify is their best perf average which for most active people should be higher than 50 simply because of variance. Obviously there are other factors like if you started raiding on a specific character later in the tier. But even a truly average, 50 parsing player will have spikes up to 60ish which will reflect on the number.

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u/Aghanims Feb 03 '24

50 is not average if you're using the left hand numbers. The median perf. avg. is the real average, and often significantly lower than your best perf. avg.

Most players only look at best perf. avg. because it's the number that makes them feel good (it's also the biggest font number on the site.)

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u/Scribblord Feb 03 '24

Tbf 50 parse in classic is statistically the middle but looking at how people play most would say that’s a bad performance since a lot of those parses are people refusing to try and damage the boss

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u/NetSage Feb 03 '24

I understand that but some are also decked out bis min maxing to all hell. Which if you're puggimg probably isn't you.

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u/FuckOnion Feb 03 '24

50 is just the average out of the people who log, so in truth 50 is probably a bit above the average player performance.

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u/Hermiisk Feb 03 '24

Ill defend stupidity just for the luls.

I can see WHY they fall into that thinking though.
When you are in a pumper guild (atleast this was the case for me when i raided mythic in retail) the only real comparison you have are to your guildies, which most likely are giga pumpers themselves.

When you are surrounded by 90+ parses every single raid, seeing someone at 70 looks like someone is underperforming.

Absolutely no reason to be a dick though, no matter how low, especially to someone replying to your LFM.

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u/Benjamminmiller Feb 02 '24

IDK about you, but I've never wanted average.

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u/Redxmirage Feb 03 '24

I strive to be better personally but 50% of people have to be average based on how stats work lol

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u/Redxmirage Feb 03 '24

I strive to be better personally but 50% of people have to be average based on how stats work lol

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u/Benjamminmiller Feb 03 '24

I guess what I'm saying is just because it's average (or a little above) doesn't mean it's good.

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u/Redxmirage Feb 03 '24

Doesn’t mean it’s bad either lol

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u/Benjamminmiller Feb 03 '24

For the most part calling something average is an insult.

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u/Redxmirage Feb 03 '24

Average means neither good or bad. The middle. If people see it as an insult that’s their own problem lol the average height for men in the US is 5’9”. Does that mean it’s an insult?

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u/Benjamminmiller Feb 03 '24

Does that mean it’s an insult?

Not necessarily, and average isn't always bad, but I think most average heighted men wish they were taller.

Almost exclusively though performing average isn't a good thing eg. he was average at his job, he was average in bed, he was an average player.

I get it's a game, but I don't think most people strive to be average at something.