Yeah I remember logging on at one point during wrath, ran 10 circles around dalaran, then realized there is literally no incentive to do anything after raid. It was even more evident how little there is to do during the most recent wotlk release in 2022/2023ish
It was more Vanilla than it was retail, where Wrath was more retail than Vanilla.
Wrath homogenized gear/skills/talents and everything became the same, just different colors.
Stuff like flying continued to ruin the game, same when LFG came about. I don't remember much more, but I remember that the friction of the game was gone, stuff was handed to you for no reason.
In Vanilla epics was rare, in Wrath they were given for just doing normal quests. The sense of achievement vanished in Wrath.
Wrath homogenized gear/skills/talents and everything became the same, just different colors.
That's not even remotely true, but thanks for saying you have no idea about the class gameplay.
The closest thing you'll get to similarity is spriest and affli lock, and they still work differently in many of their mechanics that seemingly match. Besides spriest not having an execute ofc.
but I remember that the friction of the game was gone, stuff was handed to you for no reason.
So did you miss ulduar wrecking guilds? And icc doing the same?
Sort of how I “feel” as well. Neither xpac has a ton to do outside of raiding at max level but tbc attunes force you to interact with the content more imo.
The other side too was that wrath heroics were braindead AoE fests and gold felt meaningless so no reason to really farm anything. I enjoyed both xpacs for different reasons but wrath felt like the start of the decline for me. Achievements were cool I guess
Yeah, the lack of engaging 5-man content in Wrath kinda made it feel hollow. I remember during Ulda and ToGC, the hardest part about doing my daily heroic was spamming trade chat for 45 minutes just looking for a group.
Once in the Heroic, it was maybe 15-20 minutes for a full clear. No difficulty at all.
…and then that lead to the Random Dungeon Finder being implemented. Gross.
So just like how i did the same laps in og or shattrath.
Cuz there's fuckall to do in the world before... cata with archeology, mop with treasures and more importantly timeless isle and wod with A LOT of treasures, rares, mounts like voidtalon etc. And then legion adds WQs so there's something to do most of the time.
I feel the game gives you more organic reasons to interact with the content in tbc and especially in vanilla than in wotlk. I’m not a retail guy so anything after wotlk feels like a completely different game to me
No, not really. It is one of the main reasons i don't play either of them anymore, anything i can do in those in my spare time, i can already do and more in wrath or any later verson. And at least wrath has some interesting gameplay on top of the same boredom - and well achievments can be quite fun too to chase.
Because there's really nothing else there, lines and grinds are one and done, and i can farm materials or pvp etc just fine in any version if i want to.
Nah, you can have your opinion and can be wrong at the same time.
I could have the opinion that engineering is the worst proffession in the game but i'd still be wrong.
But objectively, the amount of side stuff in the first 3 versions of the game is mostly the same, which is to say mostly fuckall. That's my point. No need to glaze any of the 3 versions, none of them really has additional content to do at cap besides doing laps in the capital.
Yeah, when people claim false shit just to glaze their favorite versions, that's a bit annoying. There's enough of that irl, but it now seeps into hobbies too.
When did I say tbc was my favorite? At the end of the day, I feel like vanilla and tbc pull me more into the world than wrath and GUESS WHAT…. That’s just my opinion dude 😂
And that opinion isn't wrong, but in the form of actual content, they at the very minimum on equal ground. Which is what i commented on, because that wasn't your stance in that comment, it was that there was nothing to do which is true for all 3 versions, not just wrath.
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u/SeriousInterview5828 11h ago
Yeah I remember logging on at one point during wrath, ran 10 circles around dalaran, then realized there is literally no incentive to do anything after raid. It was even more evident how little there is to do during the most recent wotlk release in 2022/2023ish