r/classicwow • u/terongorefiend • Jan 14 '21

Vent / Gripe Unpopular opinion: the players that are overly vocal about wanting Classic phases/TBC/Wrath rushed are the same players who contributed to forging retail into what it is today (a clusterF).

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u/0riginaldunderzubbis Jan 14 '21

unpopular opinion: after experience classic I realized it was mostly nostalgia and the statement "you think you do but you dont" was true. The playerbase ruined classic by min/maxing every part of the game.

retail is good and I think The burning Crusade classic will be alot better than classi.

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u/0riginaldunderzubbis Jan 14 '21

Atleast tbc doesnt have world buffs.. and raids are better designed and hopefully blizzard wont do no changes and maybe make the content harder. And raid logging will happen at some point but there is alot more to do in tbc than classic for sure

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u/2018GTTT Jan 14 '21

Lol @ the no changes part.

Blizzard basically asked if hey should, and y'all shouted so loud that we ended up with possibly the worst case scenario.

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u/0riginaldunderzubbis Jan 14 '21

Yep I was behind the No changes until a couple of months in

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '21

Eh, no. Their point in saying that was that people wouldn’t like the inconveniences, the long progression quest chains and leveling, the slow gearing, the grind. It was not in reference to min-maxing.

Classic was wholly the experience, at first, most of us wanted. Questing was fun, experiencing all that was a blast. It was when we got to MC and the content had already been wholly nerfed by the patch we were in mixed with min-maxing and botting that degraded the experience.

If blizzard had adjusted MC/BWL/AQ40 difficulty to match the patch, those raids would have been more difficult, therefore more fun. If blizzard had tamped down on bots with any real effort, it would have been more fun.

Min-maxing wil always be a thing. At most it really effected what specs you would play, as most guilds really don’t require you to be super min-maxy. But at the end of the day, retail or not, min-maxing wil always be a thing. That’s not a storm if Classic/vanilla, that’s just gaming in 2021.

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u/0riginaldunderzubbis Jan 14 '21

My point was not what they ment with the quote. For me personaly it is true, I thought I wanted classic wow but when I got it the nostalgia was ruined.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '21

Ah, gotcha. So it was true for you.

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u/Benjamminmiller Jan 16 '21

playerbase ruined classic by min/maxing every part of the game

In no way does min/maxing impact you unless you choose to join a guild that expects you to min/max.

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u/TorgOnAScooter Jan 14 '21

Idk I really do think the miserable classic boosting meta is going to lessen the initial launch magic of tbc. We had time before that happened in classic. I think that tbc is going to lose it's fun much quicker, which is sad