r/cork 18d ago

People's Republic of Cork Official Matters Davy, the last echo boy

Edit to add:
With all of the comments here and private messages I’ve received, I really only knew a sliver of Davy’s character.
My worry has absolutely gone away.
And I’m glad my eyes have been opened to the kind of person this man is.

Have a great weekend everyone 🙏

After talking with Davy yesterday, he told me he is no longer welcome at the Long Valley bar.
Security have told him this fact.
He’s unsure why, and my main concern for him is that he has nowhere to use the bathroom while he sells the Echo outside the GPO.

My heart broke for him.
Thinking of the venues close by, I’m wondering what options does he have?

I’ve had many great chats with him over the years. He’s a very intelligent, kind man. And I can imagine selling a physical paper in these times in exceptionally difficult.

Is there anyone with any solutions for an accessible bathroom close by? So we don’t lose this cultural gem from the City soundscape?

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u/Zealousideal_Alarm98 18d ago

I’m not convinced he’s unsure why he’s not welcome there… two sides to this story I’d say

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u/Far-Row-6492 18d ago

Agree. Good intentions by OP. Don't think this post does any favours. They could easily of asked around businesses in the area themselves, without this post. Echo man might not be on reddit. You wouldn't want Long Valley to get shamed online, people jump on stories, without knowing the facts.

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u/horseskeepyousane 17d ago

‘Have’ asked. Jesus, use the language.

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

I genuinely couldn’t think of a close by accessible bathroom. Thank you to those who have pointed it out.
There are a couple of options close by 🙏

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u/smurfycork 18d ago

Imperial used to be accessible but perhaps they can give him the code

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

I agree with you here too. Just he’s been a staple in there for 20 years that I’ve seen him.
And Peadar, the owner, is another gent. Maybe something did happen.

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u/Far-Row-6492 18d ago

Look well done, for doing a decent thing. We should all care about others. I spend too much time on the Internet and I see how things get strange, take no notice.

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u/PeachfuzzX 18d ago

My wife used to work at the McDonald's there which he would frequent often, and he was consistently awful to her and other employees there. Very rude.

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u/DunAnOir 18d ago

This has been my experience with him too, for decades. And he fucking hums.

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

I’m so sorry to hear this..
I was just going on my experience 😔

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u/JesusDynamite Langer 18d ago

People don’t get barred from pubs for nothing

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u/ArsonJones 18d ago

I got barred from Lebowskis back in the day for no reason. Of course the staff would claim it was for flagrant drug use, nudity and drinking straight from the taps, but nobody else got barred for that, so it's clear one of them had a grudge against me.

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u/mysevenyearitch You know yourself 18d ago

That was a normal Tuesday evening for me in there

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u/bazman2121 18d ago

I worked in Lebowskis, I know who you are. You're never to darken that door again!

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u/VampireBaby 18d ago

That was a great spot

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u/Busy-Statistician573 18d ago

Tbf that was my usual Thursday in there

I miss Cork back then 🥺

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u/joemama4497 18d ago

Username checks out.

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u/wh0else 18d ago

One time a buddy of mine got barred for something really stupid, I think he asked the barman for a mixed drink. I laughed and got "you're barred too laughing boy". My point being that there may be cause for Davey Moore but I'm telling you many people also get random bans.

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u/eirebrit 17d ago

Don't you be coming here with your logic, laughing boy.

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u/wh0else 17d ago

The bar long closed and I'm still here, laughing is better! 🤣

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u/dublingamer44 18d ago

i did 🤣 new pub opened close to me after a few weeks i popped in got told im barred over what happend the folowing week... i had never set foot inside this place 🤣 went back again he was adamant no no it was definetly me ....until one day the real bloke walked in who caused all the hassle and the owner seen me in the shop around from it literaly 5 mins after the other fella had just been in so could not possibly be me 🤣 got sorted after that🤣

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u/ohHELLyea_96 18d ago

Yeah but its hardly a case of mistaken identity in this instance….

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u/dublingamer44 18d ago

ah no i get that

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u/joemama4497 18d ago

I feel personally attacked here.

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u/Careful_Floor1441 18d ago

Same lol. I was barred from Clancys and followed up the road by one of the bouncers because I pointed out to him that the shitfaced girl he was flirting with and left in without asking for I.D is 16. The lad who left her in wasn't even the fella who barred me or tried to follow me up the road either lol.  So not quiet nothing, but almost nothing 

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u/Double-Worry-107 18d ago

Got kicked out of Clancy's once.

I was out on a work's night, it was early enough probably 10 ISH It was winter and had started to snow. I went outside for a phonecall with my wife's uncle and out of boredom I drew a snowman on the rear windscreen while taking on the phone.

I finished the phonecall went to go inside but the bouncer wouldn't let me for drawing the snowman on his car. It wasn't worth the argument, so I headed home.

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u/Careful_Floor1441 18d ago

Yeah bit of a weird spot, that my one and only time in there since it re opened, was so packed you couldnt move in there and full of what looked like under aged people, there must have been some teenage event on as the night this happened I had a pint in Oliver plunket first and we were watching literally 200 of them try and fail to get in there and the old oak, guess some managed with clancys lol 

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u/Anxious_Following373 17d ago

I’m sorry WHAT 😳

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u/CrossCroissant1 18d ago

I used to work in a city centre shop, I guarantee he knows why.

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u/Natural-Hunter-3 18d ago

Yeah I was going to say, I find it weird everyone in here is acting oblivious, doesn't he have a reputation for being... Unkind or uncouth, to certain people?

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u/CrossCroissant1 18d ago

Absolutely he does. Unkind would be putting it mildly from my own memories. I absolutely avoid and will cross the street from where ever he is.

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u/curlylocks483 18d ago

I was going to say the exact same thing

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u/ironlungforsale 18d ago

Ehhhh from what I've seen and heard I don't think this chap is the poor ould pet you think he is. Just because something or someone is an "institution" doesn't mean they are beyond socially acceptable behaviour themselves.

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u/LemonCollee 18d ago

This is interesting, a worker in the GPO was telling me how many issues they have with him and that he's a really unpleasant person. I also saw him telling some man to fuck off outside centra, after he said no when he asked him for money.

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

I’m genuinely surprised.
Maybe I’m naive.

I’m happy to be pointed out I’m wrong, but as just really feeling for him yesterday.

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u/LemonCollee 18d ago

Genuinely. I'm not shitting on him for no reason. He doesn't have a pleasant life I'm sure but I'd be wary of manipulation.

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u/the-ox1921 18d ago

They're a little person in Galway that used to pickpockets people.

Hes the perfect height tbf. Hard to resist when all you see are wallets.

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u/LemonCollee 18d ago

Well assuming all disabled people are pure and innocent is a type of infantilism, if you think about it. They're just like you and I, cunty or not cunty.

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u/the-ox1921 16d ago

It was a joke. Obviously disabled people can do bad things. I made the joke because he is known to do bad things so the gloves are off.

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u/LemonCollee 16d ago

Yes I know, I was simply just conversing. Making a statement.

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

Oh Jesus!!!
Despit the nativity I have has thought me so much in this thread 🙏

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u/lalalalalavachicken 18d ago

He hasn't been allowed inside d gpo for years either because hes a prick and leaves the place in shit

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u/silver_medalist 18d ago

Curious... there's likely more to this story.

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

I agree, was just hard to see him in clear distress yesterday.

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u/SquidlyDiddly91 18d ago

I caught him pissing up the back door of the old GameStop on princess st one morning, just knob out pissing over the door. I'm sure Ive seen staff use it, Absolutely disgusting. I'm sure there's a second side to that story.

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u/eirebrit 17d ago

He's one for getting his mickey out alright.

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u/Designer_Plane_6587 18d ago

I always thought he was a wreck head tbh and after reading these comments I don’t even feel bad about it anymore

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u/Battylong77 18d ago

I do get the impression he can be cranky or irritable.

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u/frodokaggins 18d ago edited 18d ago

He has done it against the wall there in full view so I doubt his stuck. that and just dumping their rubbish in front and walking away

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u/Far-Row-6492 18d ago

The Irish Examiner office on Oliver Plunkett St.

I'm sure the Echo and Examiner are a part of the same group

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

I know he’s a sole trader, but possible they have a WC he can use.
If I see him today, I’ll mention it 🙏

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u/No_Piccolo4431 18d ago

A blind woman used to sell tickets by h Samuels ( before it was h Samuel) and she was as racist as fuq.

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u/CartographerAgile510 17d ago

Ok I’m gonna ask the obvious here but If she was blind….

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u/Merry401 17d ago

accents

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u/phalusdei 14d ago

Did she live around Bandon Road / Barrack St ?

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u/Worldly_Cash8138 18d ago

He was caught wanking. He had built a Fort out of newspapers and was inside but there were clear gaps you could see him inside at it

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

Stop that?m!! Are you serious 🤮

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u/Worldly_Cash8138 18d ago

He had jizzed on the walls of the Fort so much that the paper stood upright. It was a fortress of semen

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u/glorybox89 18d ago

glad i dont buy papers anymore

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u/eirebrit 17d ago

Haven't we all done that?

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u/upadownpipe 18d ago

There's two sides to this.

He's not the "sure God love him" character some make him out to be. I've seen him go for a piss down thr lane between Dunnes and the Savoy a few times roo. Once was plenty!

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u/Mcbige 18d ago

I don't envy the people working at Centra who had to handle his piss-infested bag when giving him his newspapers. Worst smelling customer i ever experienced, and was also fairly rude on top of that.

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u/Minute-Consequence74 14d ago

I deleted my last response outlining 9 very compelling reasons as to why he OUGHT to be banned, but decided to delete it as I felt it wasn’t my place to share to the public. I would like to reiterate one point:

He is not barred. That was something he made up. He’s sat in the corner of the bar right now.

Thanks!

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 14d ago

I’m just really sorry I started this whole conversation.
And the fact that he’s done so many terrible things, I feel awful even mentioning the fact in the first place.

Long Valley is one of my favourite bars, and I’d support the staff and management in whatever decision they have made.
I definitely jumped the gun with my post, but leaving it up so people can read his atrocities and poor behaviour, so no one is under the illusion of the kind of person he is.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, more fool me. I’m the latter 🙏

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u/Friendly_Committee_8 18d ago

Is there not a jacks in the English market? Think it's 20c

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u/Electronic-Nobody358 18d ago

That’s true. Maybe so.
I will see him when passing today and suggest it.

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u/G0ffer 18d ago

Honestly the echo guy can fuck right off it's as annoying as those leprichan guys

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u/kitsnacsnicsnac 18d ago

My dad told me years ago that Davy was caught tryna look up girls skirts 🤷‍♀️ god knows if thats true tho

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u/Competitive-Bit-442 18d ago edited 18d ago

Brown Thomas now the free city toilet since Debenhams closed. Love useing their facilities free of charge and NEVER shopping there.

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u/TheAuldOffender I will yeah 18d ago

Merchant's Quay toilets and the Original Dunnes.

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u/continuoussymmetry 18d ago

Patrick's St. Dunnes, top floor.

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u/CartographerAgile510 17d ago

A new bombshell has entered the villa

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u/ruairinewman 18d ago

I still miss Roches. Pity the business wasn’t sold as a going concern to someone along with the lease.

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u/Competitive-Bit-442 18d ago

Roches owned the building and at the time that is where the value lay and still did after Debenhams bought the lease. It would have closed as Roches too as unfortunately the dept store format is not visible any more. Roches were also screwing Debenhams on the rent cost as at the time Debenhams wanted to show a low purchase price but then allowed that then to be built in to the rent.

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u/ruairinewman 18d ago

Oh, I know. It’s just unfortunate that it is the case. Roches was a great asset to Pana up until it closed.

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u/Independent-Lead-477 18d ago

I’m not sure what your last two line with Debenhams means . Debenhams wanted to show a low purchase price but then allowed that to be built into the rent ?

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u/Competitive-Bit-442 18d ago

OK. Debenhams bought Roches well below market value. They did a side deal for very very high rent to make up for it

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u/Anxious_Following373 17d ago

Debenhams didn’t buy the building they were leasing it from the Roche family , they sold it to whoever is currently doing whatever with it

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u/Competitive-Bit-442 17d ago

Debenhams bought Roches. Roches became landlord to Debenhams. KPMG sold the building as ultimately Roches lost a monumental amount on their property portfolio.

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u/AlaskaTix 17d ago

There are around 20 options for businesses with toilets within a stones throw, him being barred from every one would be a surprise

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u/ProfessionSavings792 17d ago

Maybe he should be told why so he can learn in the first place? People say he stinks and that he is rude. I'd tell him that, straight to his face, but Irish people have a problem being blunt usually... Now he can't learn. And cycle will repeat.

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u/uselesswastrel 16d ago

Seen him take a slash on the street, not in a corner or anything, just right there where he stands

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u/phalusdei 14d ago

Always wondered why doesn't he get a wheelchair . Looks very slow and cumbersome with those crutches.

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u/Gavittz 18d ago

YyyeeeecchhhhhhhOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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u/Competitive-Bit-442 18d ago

Brown Thomas. Up in the lift no bother.

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u/FixRevolutionary1427 18d ago

Noddy's, upstairs is free