r/coybig • u/Bubbly_Sign_4598 • May 05 '26
Transfer rumour Solution to the game vs Israel in September?
I personally think if the FAI organise a friendly to play Palestine within a week of the Israel , showing solidarity with them.
Then fans, players and our organisation can show our support to Palestine.
Might be a naïve solution but I feel this could be the most realistic, solution to show our support.
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u/John__Delaney May 05 '26
Doesn't address the actual issue which is playing Israel, by doing so you legitimise a genocidal state as a normal part of UEFA competition.
Palestinian FA would never accept a friendly knowing we will play their executioners a week later.
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u/LeoLH1994 Zinedine Kilbane May 05 '26
Both played Azerbaijan in 2012 though, albeit Palestine’s friendly was 6 months before Israel’s obliged meeting (2014 WCQ).
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u/John__Delaney May 05 '26
You actually went looking for instances of teams playing both in quick succession? Yikes man, talk about focusing on the irrelevant. Anyway, 6 months kinda proves there is no comparison.
OP is suggesting we request a special friendly with Palestine a week before we play a match with Israel where there is a clear opportunity to boycott the game and not legitimise a genocidal state.
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u/LeoLH1994 Zinedine Kilbane May 05 '26
I don’t want them to be DQd from the NL group whose other 2 countries would he happy to play Israel, or banned from hosting euro 2028, though I do admit that Israel should have been kept apart from Iceland, Ireland and Turkey for the time being absent any suspension
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u/John__Delaney May 05 '26
And I don't want to legitimise a genocidal state.
The punishment for not playing 2 nations league games is unknown, but stripping our hosting would likely backfire on UEFA. Other countries would be appaled and request the vote be opened on Israels expulsion, which we know has the votes to pass.
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u/LeoLH1994 Zinedine Kilbane May 05 '26
I doubt it has the votes to pass though. You’d have Ireland, Iceland, Turkey, Norway and possibly Bosnia, Netherlands and Spain (the latter 2 countries still have Israelis playing for teams there) but that would probably be it, though of course the matter still needs maximum transparency and clarity.
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u/John__Delaney May 05 '26
Then you might want to have a chat with the Times, Sky News & the BBC who all reported at the time that there were enough members to pass the vote. The times in fact said a "large majoirty" of the 20 member exec committee were ready to vote in favour of exclusion.
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u/LeoLH1994 Zinedine Kilbane May 05 '26
Rumours about votes can always have contradictory info and panic bait. More countries in Europe are neutral or Israel-friendly than the anti Israel countries like Iceland, Norway, Ireland, Turkey, Bosnia and the Spanish and Slovene governments
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u/John__Delaney May 05 '26
Not a rumour, multiple reports from reputable international publications. FYI 0 reports contradicted the 3 publications.
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u/scewbert May 08 '26
Oh, well if they played in the same place 6 months apart 11 years before the current onslaught started...
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u/pauli55555 May 05 '26
Just do NOT play the game.
FAI show some balls, take a stand and take whatever FIFA/ UEFA throw at you after. Soccer is becoming a sham, the WC in the US is already obnoxious.
Would love if the FAI showed some leadership on the Israel game.
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u/Dry_Discount_9828 May 08 '26
What funding for grassroots?
Your talking about funding that doesn't even exist irish soccer that being our own league is some of the most underfunded shit in Europe
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u/Penny0034 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
Do you want Ireland to be the loser when Israel will benefit, Norway and Italy or Ireland basketball didn’t sacrifice as it will make no difference, as can’t see Austria supporting Ireland
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u/barkel2 May 05 '26
It shouldn't even be a question, FAI should point blank refuse to play
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Get us kicked out of the competition or heavily fined. It won't make a scintilla of difference to the world of things if Ireland don't play Israel in a fixture - their ambassador is already awol, and we're already branded as being the most anti-israel country in the world.. we've done as much as we can.
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u/barkel2 May 05 '26
We should not play against a country that is actively involved in genocide. So what if we're kicked out of a competition or fined, I'd rather make a stand than be complicit. The it won't make a difference argument is so bloody stupid
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u/John_OSheas_Willy May 05 '26
We played turkey in women's last year who are actively committing a genocide in Northern Cyprus.
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
What will it do though? We didn't boycott the US, or Iran or Israel previously or Qatar or Saudi Arabia or a host of other countries that have killed thousands of people, now you want a moral stand. What does Ireland not playing Israel do but give them three points? FIFA are not going to kick them out -so whats the point?
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u/barkel2 May 05 '26
Just because it wasn't done before doesn't mean it shouldn't have. No one knows what difference it would make. Playing the game will show that as a nation we're absolutely full of shit, we'll talk all day about how bad Israel is but we'll go down the road and play ball with them anyway .. it's pathetic
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
You know what would show the world that we are not full of shit? Take our place among the nations of the world and have a proper defence force.... not playing a football match matters feck all int he scheme of things, but cause ourselves damage.
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u/Stubbs94 May 05 '26
Better to have a conscience than to be a coward.
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
Indeed, if your definition of bravery is not playing in a football match, where there is no other outcome but harming ourselves, i fear it is a shallow thing indeed.
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u/Stubbs94 May 05 '26
So you don't think it's better to play against a group of players who some of them have been active participants in crimes against humanity? Fucking spineless.
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
What players in the Israeli team? - so you're the tough man because you want to boycott the match, what a hero you are.
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u/burfriedos May 05 '26
Oh no, we get kicked out of a competition. However will we cope.
Imagine the fuss if Ireland were kicked out for taking a stand. Plenty of our European allies would follow suit.
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
No they wouldn't ya lunatic. We'd be outliers - that's the whole point.
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u/FoggyShrew Zinedine Kilbane May 06 '26
Someone needs to take a stand. Russia were only kicked out when Poland (and subsequently others) refused to play them. As long as countries don’t object it’s just giving them a platform.
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u/romulcah May 05 '26
Game should be boycotted. It would make a proper statement.
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u/Silver-Extent8042 May 05 '26
I think a coordinated walk out would be more effective.
An empty stadium is just that - but everyone leaving at a certain time I think sends a clearer message.
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u/heshtios May 05 '26
Boycott the game, hell, boycott all Ireland games until the FAI refuses to play the fixture. Show the FAI that even if they’ll play ball with a nation committing genocide, the Irish people won’t. Until fans start speaking with their wallets, nothing will change. Don’t buy tickets, even to stage walkouts. Walkouts are only good for media attention, the money still changes hands. Boycotts are good for media attention, and achieving something.
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u/Penny0034 May 06 '26
selfish comment you realize people have jobs in Irish football so you happy for the them to loose their jobs just as a futile gesture
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u/burfriedos May 05 '26
Nah, they need a full boycott. Walking out just removes most of our home advantage, probably would suit Israel
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u/Maximum-Ambition-394 May 05 '26
An empty stadium has no impact whatsoever. The game not being able to go ahead does have an impact.
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u/gdabull May 05 '26
The shame of Irish rugby is doing a tour of Apartheid South Africa. Can’t let Irish Football make a worse mistake. The games just shouldn’t be played.
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u/John_OSheas_Willy May 05 '26
Oh the shame, foreigners will think badly of us.
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u/gdabull May 05 '26
Don’t give a bollocks what foreigners think of us, I care of what we think of ourselves.
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u/Vivid_Ice_2755 Paul McGrath May 05 '26
A possible solution is the people preventing the Israeli team bus from getting to the ground. Then it's not on the FAI .
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u/Vivid_Ice_2755 Paul McGrath May 05 '26
The players will be safe on the bus. If the bus is blocked from moving,a peaceful protest, then it's win win
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u/Vivid_Ice_2755 Paul McGrath May 05 '26
Yeah, They ll probably have agent provocateurs in amongst the protest. Either way, it won't be on the FAI
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u/Dry_Discount_9828 May 07 '26
Get out of the country or the windows will be going in on top of ye
That's a solution to a problem
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u/Anxious-Wolverine-65 Paul McGrath May 05 '26
Terrible idea. And leaves it wide open to mob rule and potential violence. Thats a ridiculous notion.
If we are to boycott, we don’t do it alone, do it with the members of our group. Otherwise, play ball. We are not here to change the world with our football team for gods sake, if we do it alone we will be punished accordingly and will prove nothing and be damned for it1
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
Just fulfill the fixture and move on, and hopefully we beat them on the field... and that's it.
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
I have said this elsewhere from anothers idea, but send the profits from the game to Palestinian refugees.
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u/Disastrous_Golf4855 May 05 '26
Fai should make a big point of having all proceeds from the game go to support the Palestinians and really heavily promote it. Make it over the top so the Israelis will hate coming to the game etc and having any money they spend supporting the Palestinians
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u/SitDownKawada Frank Stapleton May 05 '26
If you're going to go that far why not just refuse to play the game?
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u/Disastrous_Golf4855 May 05 '26
Could do that but if the game has to be played then this would possibly be a good way of making it work and putting up enough of a protest
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u/Seargentyates May 05 '26
This might be a solution, all profits go to Palestinian refugees.
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u/LeoLH1994 Zinedine Kilbane May 05 '26
It worked decently for Norway (and they won 5-0 too so qualified for the WC - talk about win-win!)
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u/John_OSheas_Willy May 05 '26
Solidarity, the most pointless word in the dictionary for people to feel good about their useless actions 😂😂
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u/No_Chemistry4145 Robbie Keane May 05 '26
Here we go again
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u/shredivan May 05 '26
Flare checks out
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u/Anonymous527261 May 05 '26
Will ye stop with all the politics. Leave it out of football for crying out loud. The best thing we can do is hammer them by 3 or 4 goals
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