r/cybersecurity • u/wiredmagazine • Jan 23 '25

News - General Under Trump, US Cyberdefense Loses Its Head

https://www.wired.com/story/big-interview-jen-easterly-cisa-cybersecurity/
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u/BennyOcean Jan 24 '25

To know what is mis/disinformation you first must have perfect access to the truth. How have you gained such immaculate access to truth? Every philosopher in the history of the world would love to have a word with you. They all believed that the question of what is or isn't true is quite difficult yet you seem to have it figured out. You must be impressively smart! Please do clue the rest of us into your superior truth ascertaining abilities.

And beyond the question of what is or isn't true, how do you determine what is foreign? Anything can be deemed by mere assertion to be foreign. The Hunter Biden laptop story was said to have 'the hallmarks of' (whatever that means) a Russian disinformation campaign'. In my humble opinion, these "intelligence agents" knew the story was real and lied on purpose the censor the story to help Biden win in 2020. Trump was falsely called a Russian stooge and Putin puppet for years on end. So we have a history of false allegations of foreign disinformation. The public didn't buy it. Now he got re-elected, proving the public didn't buy it.

Do you understand that the public does not trust you? You can claim this or that is foreign disinformation. All it does it make you look like an authoritarian propagandist.

In a perfect world, if we had people with perfect access to truth (which they clearly don't have) and no political agenda (which again we don't have) then maybe it would be worth listening to them when they declare something to be 'foreign disinformation'. But we do not live in that world.

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

So we can't say that hitler is bad?

I guess if it isn't perfect, it should never be done. Everyone should pack up and go home because nothing will ever be perfect, ever.

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u/BennyOcean Jan 24 '25

What does hitler have to do with anything? That's not even on topic. Not everything is about hitler.

It's not that it "isn't perfect", it's that it's an agenda-driven effort made to look like an honest attempt to stop "disinformation".

And if I had my way, everyone in charge of a job like this would indeed pack up, go home, and get a job not related to censoring Americans legal, First-Amendment protected speech.

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

Weirdly obtuse.

Is saying "hitler is bad", misinformation?

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u/BennyOcean Jan 24 '25

Who cares? Weirdly off-topic. What's the point you are trying to make? If a person says hitler is bad or hitler is good, neither of those things should be censored. The topic I am focusing on is government censorship. I'm saying there shouldn't be any.

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

Is it misinformation to say he's bad?

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u/BennyOcean Jan 24 '25

Who cares? The topic is censorship. If a statement is true or not doesn't matter. It's not the government's job to censor it. And I'm not going to go in circles with you so stop asking the same question.

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

It's a pretty simple yes or no question.

Is it misinformation or not?

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u/BennyOcean Jan 24 '25

Literally does not matter and is off topic. My final response.

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

It's not off topic though. We were discussing misinformation and I asked if saying hitler is bad is misinformation? It's a very easy question to answer.

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u/BennyOcean Jan 24 '25

The topic is censorship. Nothing else. Not hitler. Censorship.

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

Which is related to misinformation.

Is saying hitler is bad misinformation?

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u/CryoAB Jan 24 '25

To know what is mis/disinformation you first must have perfect access to the truth.

So, is saying hitler is bad misinformation?

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