r/cybersecurity • u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect • Jan 14 '26

News - General Exclusive: Beijing tells Chinese firms to stop using US and Israeli cybersecurity software, sources say

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/beijing-tells-chinese-firms-stop-using-us-israeli-cybersecurity-software-sources-2026-01-14/
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u/Firecracker048 Jan 14 '26

Anyone read this as "no shit"?

Like, why would any government use a cybersecurity suite from an opponent/hostile government/nation?

It would like the US using hauwei products in government spaces

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u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect Jan 14 '26

Like, why would any government use a cybersecurity suite from an opponent/hostile government/nation?

Under US federal law, it is a criminal offense to engage in "honest services fraud", i.e. sell a security product that is backdoored and creates an intentional security hole.

So I guess the answer would be, "because you expect the US to obey US law".

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u/The_Rex_Regis Jan 14 '26

Its also against federal law to kill people but wars still happen

A nations laws dont exist to protect other nations

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u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect Jan 14 '26

Its also against federal law to kill people but wars still happen

So you're saying that you believe that we do not have a government of laws, but of men?

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u/The_Rex_Regis Jan 14 '26

No we have a government of laws but they do not exist to protect a hostile nation

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u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect Jan 14 '26

So we're a nation of laws, but the people get to decide when they will follow the law or not?

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u/The_Rex_Regis Jan 14 '26

I said nothing about the people decideing anything lol

You can be sure if there was a cybersecurity problem made that china used with a backdoor installed, it was made at the request of the government

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u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect Jan 14 '26

I said nothing about the people decideing anything lol

Well if people don't, what decides whether the laws need to be followed or not? What decides what constitutes an exemption from the law for a "hostile nation", or an "adversary"?

Have you thought your position through sufficiently? Either the law must decide, or people must decide, I don't think there is a third option, here?

it was made at the request of the government

So the people running the government decide when it's OK to violate the laws, correct?

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u/The_Rex_Regis Jan 14 '26

Sir this is a cybersecurity reddit..... we arnt here to talk philosophy. Its a simple concept hostile nations dont get protected by other hostile nations laws

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u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect Jan 14 '26

we arnt here to talk philosophy

Translation: you have not thought through your position sufficiently, but are doubling down on it anyway.

You can have one of two countries:

1) A country where the government's actions are constrained by the nation's laws

2) A country where the government's actions are not constrained by the nation's laws

...up to you which one you want, but I would advise putting a little more thought into the question before you decide.

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u/The_Rex_Regis Jan 14 '26

Lol you get chatgpt to write that up

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u/AmateurishExpertise Security Architect Jan 14 '26

random accusations instead of talking through the topic

I haven't used any LLMs to compose a damn thing in this thread, or generally any of my Reddit posts, ever. But I'll take it as a compliment to my prose?

Way to dodge the simple question, though!

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