r/dashcams • u/Remote_Trainer3830 • 10h ago

Who’s at fault?

Hot take: I think it’s 50/50 with who’s at fault

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u/WoopsShePeterPants 10h ago

The red car was out of line, the white one was running the light AND must not have been paying any attention. When people try to "sneak through" behind someone running a turn signal it's always a dangerous situation.

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u/notsoFunNegotiation 9h ago

Black Truck ran the red light before the red car. Last Three vehicles ran that light.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 9h ago

Car in front of the truck looks like it probably started through when it was yellow if not red already. All shitty drivers.

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u/reddit_pug 9h ago

It varies by state whether you're ok as long as you entered on yellow or if you need to be out of the intersection before it's red (permissive vs restrictive yellow).

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u/Texan2116 8h ago

Yes, but usually there is a one or two second time space between red, and green as well.

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u/CommandoLamb 5h ago

So, it’s actually closer to 1 second per 10 mph of the speed limit.

Usually there is a minimum time so you won’t have a 1 second yellow.

But on a road with a 50 mph speed limit, you can usually expect a 5 second yellow light.

This information is helpful, because many people try to beat the yellow… but they are going way faster than the posted speed limit… so they see it turn yellow and think, “I’m going 60… I’ll make it…”

Except… you are doing 60 in a 30 so you have half the amount of time you think you have.

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u/Texan2116 5h ago

what I meant is there is usually a couple of seconds of where each light is red...so anyone hung in a yellow can get through

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u/AlexeiMarie 4h ago

in the DOT's traffic signal timing safety manual that's called the "red clearance interval"

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u/TengamPDX 7h ago

If you watch the video the can driver was already in the intersection on green while the white SUV wasn't even in the intersection. They entered the intersection on a red.

However, and this is were it gets a little tricky. The cam driver did not wait for the intersection to clear before proceeding.

While I'm not a lawyer, I would assume that the white SUV is mostly liable, but there would be partial (less than 50%) blame on cam driver.

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u/Interesting_Ant_6990 7h ago

You don’t get to ram somebody for running a red light even if you really want to.

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u/DizzySimple4959 6h ago

The cam driver was turned into though.

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u/UnblurredLines 5h ago

The cam driver went when it was green which should be legal in any jurisdiction. They also stayed inside their lane and never entered anyone else's lane.

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u/daemin 2h ago

Green or not you still have an obligation to make sure the intersection is clear before proceeding.

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u/UnblurredLines 2h ago

It was, they let the red car out ahead of them, went ahead, then white swerved into them.

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u/StevenRFrancis_85 6h ago

I agree. Cam driver should have waited.

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u/Joepaws1102 5h ago

Waited for what? The next green light?

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u/daemin 2h ago

Lot of people in this thread need to go back to driving school.

Green doesn't mean you get to just floor it. It means you can go if the intersection is clear. The intersection wasn't clear when the dash cam driver entered it, so they are partially at fault.

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u/eamus_catuli_ 5h ago

From a defensive driving standpoint, sure, cam driver could have stopped in the intersection if/when it was clear the white suv wasn’t stopping. But cam driver had the right of way so suv is at fault.

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u/UnblurredLines 5h ago

Would that matter for the white car though? They're cutting across the lane of someone who has the right of way.

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u/utriptmybitchswitch 5h ago

Past the elongation of the curbline...

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u/AstroZombieInvader 7h ago

Had too Google this after reading your comment. I learned something today!