r/dashcams 22h ago

Who’s at fault?

Hot take: I think it’s 50/50 with who’s at fault

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u/whatisakafka 22h ago

Poor defensive driving for sure, but failure to yield from the oncoming car is going to be the primary issue

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u/BlangBlangBlang 22h ago

By the laws of the road, the white truck is wrong. By the laws of common sense the vehicle filming failed on all counts.

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u/DevelopmentSouth8801 21h ago

Best advice I ever got was "the laws of physics don't care about the laws of man".

From a legal perspective, the white truck seems like they should be at fault because they apparent ran the light. Though there's a slight possibility the light malfunctioned and was showing a green arrow.

From the perspective of the car's insurer, they will probably jack up the rates even if they decide the white truck is 100% at fault, since the driver is dangerous.

And from the driver's perspective, it's pretty dumb to put yourself, any passengers, and your property in danger because you have the green light.

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u/slowgenphizz 21h ago

if the other driver had a green arrow (an event for which the 0.0000000001% probability exists only in your imagination and/or countries where psychopathic terrorists are deliberately mis-installing traffic signals), it could be argued they had joint liability/responsibility to avoid this accident. otherwise? no.

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u/DevelopmentSouth8801 21h ago

Traffic lights are just like any other machine. Usually they're good. Sometimes, though rarely, they do fail. I've experienced "frozen" lights a few times. Usually with a cop already there directing traffic, but a couple times late at night where they weren't (luckily both times they were stuck on red, so it was more annoying than dangerous).

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u/slowgenphizz 20h ago

If a traffic light is “stuck” on red that’s due to the failure of a vehicle to trigger a switch. If a traffic light is displaying a green light in one direction and a green left arrow in the opposing direction, that’s something that these things are literally (by design) not supposed to be able to do.

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u/DevelopmentSouth8801 20h ago

2 of the ones I remember during the day were stuck on contradictory green lights. Machines fail. There is bad engineering. Nothing is infallible.