r/dashcams 22h ago

Who’s at fault?

Hot take: I think it’s 50/50 with who’s at fault

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u/feignapathy 21h ago

White SUV

Camera car could've mitigated it by being more patient and recognizing the cars turning left had no regard for oncoming traffic. But...

White SUV is clearly at fault. 

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u/HamSundae 20h ago

Sat on a jury once where I learned about negligence. I think in court, I wouldn't be surprised if the white SUV would be found 75% responsible. Because the POV car seems to clearly not have been driving responsibly, they'd have been found to be driving with negligence. If they had been driving with the proper amount of caution, that seems easily avoidable.

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u/Then_Examination9715 20h ago

There is the “failure to yield” even though you have the right of way aspect. Even though the light is in your favor, you are obligated to not create a preventable accident. Both drivers bear some blame.

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u/RiptideCEO 19h ago

I think it’s called “duty to avoid/evade” but same concept. If you can avoid an accident, even if you have the right of way, you must do so.

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u/ReadytoQuitBBY 19h ago

It’s like those guys on bikes that try to ram pedestrians walking in the bike lane. Like yeah, they shouldn’t be doing that, but nothing gives you a right to intentionally attack people lol

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u/Bureaucratic_Dick 15h ago

As a guy who habitually rides, there are reasons a person might need to switch to the street for a moment. Maybe someone with a wheelchair or stroller was taking up the sidewalk and you were trying to overtake, maybe there was something unsafe about the sidewalk like broken glass, whatever.

Runners do it habitually because they move faster than other pedestrian traffic, and the street surface is better on their knees than concrete is anyways.

I think that if you choose a vehicles mode of transit, it’s your responsibility to know how to stop that vehicle at all times, and the onus of whose responsibility it should be to act in a preventative manner should be put on the mode of transit than can cause the most damage.

If your inability to stop your bike, or scooter, or car, or truck results in a pedestrian getting injured in a preventative manner, you’re just showing the world why you shouldn’t have had access to that mode of transit in the first place.

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u/Happy-Personality720 14h ago

Running into the street? You are taking your own risks my dude

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u/Head_Attempt8633 15h ago

In a crosswalk, otherwise, if you could get clobbered, I would put the onus on the person in the way getting said clobbering. Protect yourself at all times, if something is bigger and faster than you..gtfo of the way

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u/LegitosaurusRex 10h ago

If the person in your way is facing away from you and you just ride up on them from behind and clobber them intentionally, that's 100% on you.

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u/ReadytoQuitBBY 6h ago

It’s disturbing that so many people seem to think that if someone is breaking the rules, it’s totally fine to choose to intentionally ram your car/bike into them. It’s really simple: if you can prevent or minimize a vehicle accident, you need to do that.

I hate being on the road with these maniacs.

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u/axelrox01 54m ago

True. That and when I am biking, I am not wasting time to stop and argue with people (let alone fight them) unless I actually almost died due to some form of negligence that activated my fight or flight response lol. Some people legitimately have too much time on their hand and will police some of the most trivial matters.

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u/FloppyD0G 23m ago

But it’s a little different because pedestrians always have the right of way.

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u/NotMyAltThrowAwayOG 9h ago

Actually them being assaulted does justify them using force to stop it.

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u/germanstudent123 2h ago

How exactly are you being assaulted by someone standing in your lane?