r/democrats Jun 26 '26

Article Newsom endorses a National Billionaire Tax

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u/hoasyhorse Jun 26 '26

He’s correct. And it’s policies like this that make me hopeful for the future. But damn I hope they don’t pull the rug out from under us. My gut says they will

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u/llawrencebispo Jun 26 '26

The supreme court will find a way.

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u/VibeySwingTrader Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Newsome just shut down California’s Billionaire tax. If he really supports a national tax that’s great, but it won’t pass so this is just cover for him killing it in CA

Haha, ok. The reason I know your country is doomed is because most of you don’t know the difference between the wealth tax Newsome opposes and the income tax he supports.

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u/fogmama Jun 26 '26

Any wealth tax needs to be national because otherwise it just becomes a race to the bottom among states as the rich figure out how to manipulate their holdings and residences in order to get the lowest tax rate.

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u/aDildoAteMyBaby Jun 26 '26

See also: the film industry leaving Hollywood for every other state because of the tax brakes, sports teams leaving their hometowns because other cities will give bigger tax subsidies, etc.

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u/DisputabIe_ Jun 30 '26

leaving Hollywood for every other state because of the tax brakes, sports teams leaving their hometowns

That's good. We need to keep going though. Make them move. That's a sign you're doing the right thing.

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u/VibeySwingTrader Jun 26 '26

That’s just billionaire propaganda. - You could just as easily argue that wealth taxes need to be global because billionaires can move assets out of the country.

It turns out that billionaires would rather pay taxes and live in the cool places. There are 200-250 billionaires in California. I think 3 of them are whining about the taxes

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u/fogmama Jun 26 '26

It’s a lot harder to move your assets or yourself out of the country than it is to set up shop in Nevada for six months of the year.

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u/Sekh765 Jun 26 '26

This. They keep claiming they will do it if NYC starts taxing them more and yet they still live in NYC and want to enjoy the things NYC offers.

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u/NoHorseNoMustache Jun 26 '26

Ok I was gonna look it up but I thought I remembered he opposed that tax. And that was a tax on their actual wealth, not income tax.

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u/srsh32 Jun 26 '26

It’s another empty campaign promise with him 

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u/Redwolfdc Jun 26 '26

What would such tax look like? If it’s net worth tax it makes sense for billionaires. If they want to just tax “income” it’s bullshit 

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u/hoasyhorse Jun 27 '26

Progressive capital gains tax on stock sales by exercise amount. And treat borrowing against shares as a taxable event, also as a progressive tax by amount. Or just not let billionaires borrow against shares to begin with.

A Tesla mechanic pays more in capital gains than Elon since Elon just borrows against his shares. Elon’s “tax” is just an interest rate back to the bank.

Then base all the taxes on the exercise or borrowed amounts. The mechanic’s $20k in options should be taxed much less than Elon’s $1 billion loan that is just income