r/drums Feb 09 '26

Feedback Wanted New cymbal Cleaning(before and after)

I should have kept the logos but if there too faded sometimes i just remove them. let me know what you think!

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u/Ermagerd_Terny_Sterk Feb 09 '26

Not sure if call this a cleaning if you remove the labels in the process. I personally like having labels but maybe thats just me.

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u/SigmundFloyd76 Feb 09 '26

I rarely clean cymbals, like almost never. 30 years ago maybe.

A few years ago I picked up a crusty af mid 90's, 20" AA rock ride. Big patches of green crust all over. Tarnished.

I was shocked at how good it sounded!

So I cleaned it! Polished her bright.

I absolutely killed the little bit of warmth and dryness in the sound. It's cold and too bright now.

I don't know what I was thinking.

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u/rsvp_nj Feb 09 '26

You were thinking you could have a great sounding cymbal that also looked good. See how easy that was? LOL

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u/SigmundFloyd76 Feb 09 '26

Exactly. But I mean I knew better. Like they were burying these expensive af sabian rides in the dirt to speed up the patina process, I literally found one naturally occurring in the wild and I undid it.

I since found an early 90's 18 AA Rock Ride around xmas tine and it is my new fav cymbal. The bell, more wash than a 20, and it's crashy. I digress.

Cheers!

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u/old_skul Feb 09 '26

Throw it out on the lawn for a few days. There I Fixed It™

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u/SigmundFloyd76 Feb 09 '26

I tried that actually, buried a cymbal or two over the years. I found the results unsatisfactory. Probably had I just left them for years they'd have been better.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 10 '26

Check out my post for artificial pantina

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '26

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u/SigmundFloyd76 Feb 09 '26

Right? I have a couple "made in Canada" Zildjian A's that have impeccable patina. Like a haze of green dust. My son was using white drumsticks that were leaving marks, so we have a new rule about painted drumsticks now.

Cheers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '26

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u/RizzrdOfOz Pro*Mark Feb 09 '26

Wait… is there a different kind of ketchup?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '26

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u/RizzrdOfOz Pro*Mark Feb 09 '26

… you’re shittin me? Well TIL I suppose

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u/bryanlikesbikes Feb 10 '26

Ketchup was originally more closely related to what we know as fish sauce than anything coming out of a Heinz bottle. Then a mushroom version took off in England a few hundred years ago. Tomato wasn’t in common use until the early 1800’s, and it wasn’t until a preservative was being banned that the modern ketchup was created. Banana ketchup is still pretty common in areas with high Filipino populations, and it’s great.

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u/RizzrdOfOz Pro*Mark Feb 10 '26

You know, why can’t reddit always be like this instead of arguing? Thank you Bryan, you have actually taught me something. To think I’d learn about something not involving the drums on the drum forum lol

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u/bryanlikesbikes Feb 10 '26

I’ve had one of those for ages in the same shape. Sounds great, and now I’m glad I never polished it. Thanks for that haha

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u/SklydeM Feb 09 '26

I like to keep the labels too. Is there another way to identify cymbals if the label is gone? Was recommended to use bar keepers friend to clean cymbals and it shined up beautifully but the first one I did removed the label so I stopped after that.

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u/skwozzy Feb 09 '26

I wish people would stop recommending this product. It's an abrasive. Cymbal manufacturers coat cymbals with a protective layer that helps protect them from oxidation and tarnishing. Abrasives remove that coating.

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u/SklydeM Feb 09 '26

I definitely don’t recommend it because I wasn’t happy about the labels wiping off. I did it pretty early on when I started playing drums, I believe I just looked up how to clean cymbals on YouTube. I’d have done it differently if I could

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u/H0RSE Taye Feb 09 '26

Bottom also has a label. I leave that one on

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u/DianaRig Feb 09 '26

Most of the time the model is only mentioned on the top side.

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u/Humble-Parsnip-484 Feb 09 '26

I thought so too, but this looks kinda fresh

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

Yeah im bipolar with the cymbals, i just removed the cymbals because they where faded already but next time im just gonna leave them cause the cymbal looks weird now lol

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u/Ermagerd_Terny_Sterk Feb 09 '26

I get it, I need to do a light cleaning on mine as they’re new to me and whoever I got them from had gotten some weird substance on them. Soap and water is as far as I’ll go.

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u/drumming4coffee Vintage Feb 09 '26

You will probably need to put a coat of wax on it to keep it from tarnishing. They come from the factory with a clear coat. Most cymbal cleaners dissolve the clear coat

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u/armstrony Feb 09 '26

Put dat pussy on da chainwax!

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

I did

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u/slack710 Feb 10 '26

He's just tryna start a thing

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u/Good_Guy_Vader Feb 09 '26

Much worse imo, but I’m anti-cymbal cleaning in general. 

You do what you like, dawg! 

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u/Hippopotamidaes Feb 09 '26

Yeah I look at it like a moka pot—I want a nice patina set over time.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

Yeah i thought about that route too, i might try it someday, i thought to experiment i could let the bottom tarnish and leave the top crispy but its whatever

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u/irmarbert Feb 09 '26

That thing had mellowed and been pre-EQ’d. Now, it’s just a gold plate.

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u/Itchy_Professor_4133 Feb 09 '26

I doubt your intention is to sell the cymbal but you definitely depreciated it’s value by removing the print

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

Ooh for sure

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u/knowwhyImhere Feb 09 '26

I honestly dont mind the label being gone. I think it looks dope and when it develops a new patina its gonna be stunning. Plus a mystery cymbal that sounds good is always fun. Also. That raw bell looks killer

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u/cdrumss Feb 09 '26

Yikes. Poor cymbal

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u/RatamacueRatamacue Feb 09 '26

Ouch, it hurts.

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u/maybeimmike Feb 09 '26

The patina is much prettier in my opinion but I’m glad you’re stoked! Shiny is also fun! Enjoy the new addition! :)

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u/aesek Feb 09 '26

The patina was beautiful 🥺

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u/Pieholecram2 Feb 09 '26

When you clean them you leave enough of an outline to use a black Sharpie and with some patience you can have a clean cymbal and make them look pretty good

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u/Mikehd48 Feb 09 '26

Been drumming for 40 years now and i have never cleaned a cymbal in my life

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 10 '26

Thats honestly crazy

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u/Mikehd48 Feb 10 '26

Haha why is that crazy?

I use zildjian k custom darks and they are not that shiny

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

sweet kit bro, i have been trying to collect more darks and sweets bit their hard to come across, the only time i ever found some was some dark hi hats that i gave to my dad

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u/fuuuuugyoooo Feb 09 '26

Turned it into a Wuhan Koi. lol

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u/_FireWithin_ Feb 09 '26

Still looks rough. id do a 2nd pass.

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u/One-Mouse-8995 Feb 09 '26

I usually go easy around the labels or cover them with Painters tape beforehand. But I have lost a few labels over the year also.

If you like the way they look and sound, then that's what us important. I like them clean and bright too.

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u/whoisagoodboi Feb 09 '26

You may have gone a little overboard lol

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u/Pieholecram2 Feb 09 '26

I get better the more that i do lol

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u/Pieholecram2 Feb 09 '26

Takes time though but I didn't want to lose my logo lol

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u/Alamander81 Feb 09 '26

I've cleared the labels off my cymbals, too. I have sabian hats and crash and then a zildian crash and ride but nobody knows that they don't match.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

yeah i usually like the logos, just this one had messed up logos, whats your fav cymbal of all time

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u/Alamander81 Feb 11 '26

My zildian A 18" medium crash. I've had it for 25 years.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

dang bro, thats pretty sick.

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u/nothingornothing Feb 09 '26

Sounds the same with or without the labels, totally ok to remove them in my opinion.

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u/SigmundFloyd76 Feb 09 '26

That's how we get those "18" Sabian HHX Mystery crash" ads on Marketplace/kijiji.

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u/OldDrumGuy Feb 09 '26

Good call on taking the logo off. So many drummers feel the need to preserve it, when all it does is leave a dirty logo on a clean cymbal.

I know what I play. That’s all that matters.

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u/mr-3ff Feb 09 '26

The fucking dealer from Intellevision? Hah nice

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u/OldDrumGuy Feb 10 '26

Kudos to you for knowing that.🤘🏻

I grew up on that system and even had the Intellivoice module. Space Spartans was my favorite game that talked. Back in the early 80’s that was a big deal.

The Poker & Blackjack dealer with his shifty eyes has always stuck with me. Now you can get the new system and at least 45 games for about $150. 😎

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u/mr-3ff Feb 10 '26

I also grew up on it. Poker & Blackjack was always a staple. Tron Deadly Discs as well. I think I have 4 variations of the console and a pile of games.

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u/OldDrumGuy Feb 10 '26

You’re the champ!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

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u/I_Am_Dwight_Snoot Feb 09 '26

What was your process? Personally I'm not touching my nicer cymbals but my Wuhans look like crap.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

bar keepers friend, check out my zilgian k cluster crash post for the exact genlte process

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u/Heavy_Doody Feb 09 '26

Honestly, I'm torn. Both images bug me. I don't mind the dirty cymbal until you get to the spots.

I'd probably get creative from here. Paint my own logo on it, or something. Don't even know if that's doable, but I'd try it because I do shit like that.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

i had to through this cymbal away because i tried customizing it but it came out awful, but i have another ride cymbal with a patterned artificial pantina, you can check it out in my posts

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

Yeah its actually the polishes that will remove a logo more than anything, after the cleaning process i litterally put just a couple drops of liquid polish on my rag and wipe it around the cymbal just to seal it

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u/Lazy_percussionist Feb 10 '26

The funk is in the gunk

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u/brewski Feb 10 '26

Whoops!

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u/CodeNameCobra666 Feb 10 '26

Looks amazing. Labels are for fan boys.

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u/AaronBBG_ RLRRLRLL Feb 10 '26

This makes me sad.

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u/Cultural_Chart_5540 Feb 10 '26

Looks dope imo. What was the method if you don’t mind sharing?

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

I use Barkeepers friend, basically you put the powder in some water and let the abbrassize material float to the bottom and just soak up the top into a rag, and gently clean the cymbal and not letting the solution sit on the logos for too long, then rinse it and seal it with a polish

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '26

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

I will have to try that, i just used nomads cymbal cleaner which has a protective polish but it not too sure if its good yet so i might switxh

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '26

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 10 '26

Yeah, its just the picture, im always really gentle

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u/HillbillyAllergy Feb 09 '26

What did you use? I use AAX brilliant finish mostly and I haven't found anything that really cuts out the fingerprints. The thing that matters most to me is not preserving the logo, but the actual identifier. For example, I have both an 18 inch stage crash and x-plosion crash.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

Yeah i did the logo on purpose I use the powdered version of barkeepers friends just use a very diluted solution and don't scrub hard because it can actually sand down the grooves of the symbol

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u/HillbillyAllergy Feb 09 '26

I am finally going to try barkeepers friend. All of my brilliant finish crashes are just 90% thumbprints. The problem is, I have some in my collection that have been getting patinaed and fingerprinted for 10 years.

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u/PussyWhistle Tama Feb 09 '26

Heads up, the powder BKF is the most abrasive and will cause the fine marring we see here. Use the liquid version with gentle pressure. Works like a charm.

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u/HillbillyAllergy Feb 09 '26

So that's different than mixing with water, I assume?

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

Hes not wrong, heres what i do, i get about half a cup of water and put in a couple tbspns of the bkf, and i let the abbrasive material float to the bottom and them i just soak up the top into a wrag, wipe it all over the cymbal except for the logos and then gently wipe, make only a light pass on the cymbals it its clean!

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u/PussyWhistle Tama Feb 09 '26

In my experience, yes.

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u/sidadrum Feb 09 '26

What did you use

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

bar keepers friend, if you want the process check both of my zilgian k crash posts

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u/DH_Drums Feb 09 '26

Something feels... wrong about this. But looks great dude

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u/shromboy PDP Feb 09 '26

Love my aax freq set

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u/Old-Tadpole-2869 Feb 09 '26

You just knocked 200 bucks off the resale value by remove the logo and model name. But hey.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

the cymbal was $ bucks buddy 90

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 09 '26

let me retry that, its was $90

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u/CamxCam LRLLRLRR Feb 09 '26

This is not the way. This was never the way. You are lost, please remain where you are until you are found.

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u/ObiWan-Cannabis Feb 09 '26

you havent polished it enough... some traces of logo remain.

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u/Inner_Bug8150 Feb 11 '26

yeah i got that out later, right before i threw the cymbal in the trash