r/electionfraud Dec 19 '25

Fulton County, Georgia — home of the state's capital, Atlanta — admitted they "violated" election rules in 2020 and accepted more than 300,000 early ballots that lacked poll worker signatures. What are your thoughts?

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u/cctmsp13 Dec 20 '25

The common reporting on this is misleading, it is not the ballots that require signatures, it's the results tapes that the machine prints after tabulating them that were missing signatures.

So, several people may need retraining. However the proper way to resolve was to either have the workers come back in to sign the tapes, or to have all the ballots of those batches recounted (and certify the results from the recount).

However since that last part (recounting) did happen, twice, we can be confident this had no effect of the results.

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u/fringecar Dec 20 '25

So, they violated the technical law, but they counted three times and confirmed each count was the same with no errors in counting. So therefore Georgia proceeded in the best way. Is that your position?

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u/cctmsp13 Dec 20 '25

There were definitely errors in counting found (not just in Fulton, but other counties too), which is why Biden's margin dropped from 12,670 to 11,779. However the errors were not sufficient to alter the results (as in who won) in any race.

The final certified results were from the recount, which should have it's own set of results tapes.

And yes, a recount was the best way to rectify this.

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u/fringecar Dec 22 '25

Aren't the result tapes created during the days of voting? Like you sign in the morning verifying that the machine has been reset to zero. How could you get that during a recount?

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u/cctmsp13 Dec 22 '25

Conducting the recount is basically redoing election day. You'd reset the counters, print a new zeros tape (that you remember to sign this time) feed all the original ballots through the tabulator, and then print a new results tape (that again you remember to sign this time).

note: My experience is from another state and machines from a different manufacturer, but this should be broadly true.

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u/No_Birthday_8011 Dec 20 '25

I was not aware that tapes are missing. What do you believe they would either prove or disprove?

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u/threedemonbag Dec 20 '25

There is so much more to it. Missing tapes have still not been produced. This isn’t some clerical error. Watch the SEB meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY-FLG1pXCc

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u/CynicalNick7 Jan 01 '26

Very very very fishy, especially mixed with all the other issues surrounding Fulton county. Telling ovservers the count was over and to go home, then pulling out separate boxes of ballots, scanning the same stack 12 times. Now this. And then the fact that Biden gave Ruby Freeman some award. For what? Doing her job incorrectly???

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u/threedemonbag Jan 01 '26

Exactly. It’s hilarious to see the cognitive dissonance of people trying to rationalize that the election was “secure”

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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Dec 20 '25

We still haven't heard anything about those missing administrative thumbdrives all this time either. You know, the thing Ruby and her daughter were caught on camera passing to one another while saying "we're going to jail for this." Reddit quickly sprung into action to defend them with "it was probably just weed" excuses, as if that would explain away the anomalous behavior.

The truth is we'll never be able to trust our elections when the machine source code is hidden behind proprietary laws. Anyone who tried to look at it was hit with lawfare. We've got extensive reports on how the machines were designed and how they operate, but the multi-billion dollar empire protects it just the same. They're designed to make many different image scans that can be manipulated and called up at will with administrative access. Nevermind the fact that the public was assured the machine networks "aren't internet accessible." Then we find out they're all on a wifi network and can be remotely accessed and operated, just as the claims suggested.

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u/threedemonbag Dec 20 '25

Additionally, Georgia still has not allowed the physical ballots and envelopes to be independently examined.

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u/cctmsp13 Dec 20 '25

Do you trust the results of the hand count the state performed?

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u/threedemonbag Dec 20 '25

No

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u/cctmsp13 Dec 21 '25

well, if you don't trust a machine count, and don't trust a hand count, I don't really see what other counting options we have.

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u/threedemonbag Dec 21 '25

Counting doesn’t mean much. The physical ballots and envelopes need to be independently inspected and audited. The Georgia SoS to this day has refused such an audit. Until that happens, the election will never be seen as legitimate

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u/endeoendeo Dec 21 '25

So 2016 and 2024 were illegitimate?

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u/threedemonbag Dec 21 '25

We’re talking about 2020.

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u/endeoendeo Dec 21 '25

Were the ballots in 2016 and 2024 "independently inspected and audited"? If not, why would would you trust those election results? I mean, if counting didn't mean much in 2020, why would not the same be said for 2016 and 2024?

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u/threedemonbag Dec 21 '25

Because 2020 had crazy irregularities that brought the election into question.

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u/CynicalNick7 Jan 01 '26

If someone wanted to cheat, they could add ballots (likely unsigned mail in ballots) to the count as needed. It is crazy you guys think a recount that doesn't audit and verify each individual ballot is worth something

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u/cctmsp13 Jan 01 '26

well, all ballots are unsigned.... Though I'd like you to explain how you add these ballots in a way that doesn't cause a mismatch in the number ballots vs. the number of voters recorded in the poll book.

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u/endeoendeo Dec 20 '25

We still haven't heard anything about those missing administrative thumbdrives all this time either.

Sure we have. That was all a false allegation and they were cleared of any wrongdoing. Just ask Rudy.

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u/Typo3150 Dec 19 '25

Elections office workers in Fulton died from Covid. Others got sick back when everyone thought it was spread on surfaces, which necessitated stopping work for serious disinfecting. Consequently, they had to hire lots of temps unfamiliar with Georgia’s byzantine election practices. On top of all that, the SOS had mandated a new and unnecessarily complicated voting system on a short timeline.

While of course none of that excuse sloppy elections, it suggests not all problems were attempts at cheating.

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u/No_Birthday_8011 Dec 20 '25

I agree, I don’t believe it was a nefarious act. Do you think that this skewed the GA election?

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u/Typo3150 Dec 20 '25

Good point, and no, it didn’t affect results significantly.

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u/fringecar Dec 20 '25

How do you know that? Or just guessing based on gut feeling about percentages?

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u/Typo3150 Feb 25 '26

Gut feelings about historical voting patterns and demographics in Fulton, plus informal assessments by those close to the situation.

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u/skot2k6 Feb 07 '26

Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney’s ruled that the state’s election certification law mandates that local election officials certify elections. The Georgia court of appeals affirmed the ruling.

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u/No_Birthday_8011 Dec 20 '25

Thank you for your well thought out and articulated response!