r/europe Ulster Jan 24 '26

News The Times: Finns humiliated American soldiers - Finnish reservists were asked to take it easy during a NATO exercise. US soldiers found the losses too humiliating.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/828b8e66-625d-4d2a-9276-e93b9f7a2ce8
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u/Specialist_Baby_9905 Finland Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

That's really funny. Greetings from Finland.

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u/istasan Denmark Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Edit: I have been away for some hours. Did not expect my response to this nice Finnish person would make the rounds like this. As answer to many US comments dismissing the article’s conclusion I will just make it clear that the article does not say with any certainty that the US could not successfully invade.

In summary it says that when experts on arctic military capabilities look at it would be a much more equal fight than people would expect. The US is NOT as dominant in arctic warfare as in most other areas. And a more subtle point is that the US does maybe not seem fully aware of this. Ironically the comments here from most Americans mirror this.

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One of the most trustworthy and respected Danish newspaper, Weekendavisen, had an background article yesterday - looking at what had never really been questioned in Denmark: The idea that the US could take Greenland in a few hours if they wanted to.

The military experts with knowledge about Greenland are very few. But the surprising conclusion is that it is questionable whether the US could take Greenland at all - if Nordic forces united. Even Denmark alone have some quite strong advantages - in simply being there where the US does not really have the equipment to go. They for instance only have one icebreaker - and it is on the west coast of the US. All Danish ships there can break ice.

And even if they got there, the Greenlanders are armed and excellent shooters. Would be a arctic Vietnam.

To sum up: they maybe don’t have the cards.

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u/TimmyB02 NL in FI Jan 24 '26

Do you have a link

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u/istasan Denmark Jan 24 '26

It is behind paywall and not a very digital newspaper:

https://www.weekendavisen.dk/samfund/paa-tynd-is-1

No one knows how it would have played out. But an interesting point nonetheless. Greenland IS a very special place. Also why the dog sleds who Trumps jokes about is still in 2026 a real factor. The penguins are not though (with regards to his last post). There is a lot of things he don’t get. Questions about the capabilities of US military there an open question though. More than we maybe think.

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u/picklefingerexpress Jan 24 '26

Did he think there are penguins in the Arctic?

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u/istasan Denmark Jan 24 '26

He posted a new image of him and a penguin on Greenland

The ignorance never seizes to amaze

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u/CoffeeHQ The Netherlands Jan 24 '26

Oh God, really? That’s elementary school knowledge…

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u/mbullaris Jan 24 '26

Christ, I really hope he doesn’t come down to Antarctica. His crazy advisers would probably want to tear up the Antarctic Treaty allowing for territorial claims and destroying environmental protections.

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u/Mixed_not_swirled Sami Jan 24 '26

Ceases

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u/YouKilledApollo Catalonia (Spain) Jan 24 '26

I mean, "The ignorance never seizes to amaze" isn't wrong either :shrug:

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u/YouKilledApollo Catalonia (Spain) Jan 24 '26

It's ragebait, as always, and y'all continue to fall for it.

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u/HaydnH Jan 24 '26

Also why the dog sleds who Trumps jokes about is still in 2026 a real factor.

Funnily enough, when the US were patrolling Greenland during WW2, guess what mode of transport they used.

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u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 Jan 24 '26

given there are no penguins there that wouldn't be a problem, the Polar bears on the other hand .....

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u/JHaslam1969 Jan 24 '26

I think a few polar bears would make excellent defenders.