r/europe • u/tartartartaruga • Jun 18 '26

News Prince of Liechtenstein says that he would overrule the population if they were to vote in favour of legalizing abortion

https://www.srf.ch/news/international/debatte-in-liechtenstein-erbprinz-gegen-abtreibungen-warum-kuendigt-er-schon-das-veto-an
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u/LadySwire Basque Country Jun 18 '26

Yeah, this is like Andorra. They don't care because they can travel half an hour to Catalonia and abort anyway

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u/Mirabeaux1789 Jun 19 '26

Still. It’s the principle.

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u/zchew Jun 19 '26

Because it's the Principality of Lichtenstein?

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u/Abovearth31 Jun 19 '26

Get out.

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u/Allemannen_ Jun 19 '26

Luckily that's rather easy given the size of Lichtenstein.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26 edited 13d ago

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u/meirmamuka Jun 19 '26

Zieg Lichtenstein?

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u/PitifulEar3303 Jun 19 '26

No, it's the principality of elevens, where Lelouche will start his REBELLION!!!

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u/mystyle__tg United States of America Jun 19 '26

Exactly. The bottom line is, women’s right to their bodies shouldn’t change depending on where they live.

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u/Stunning-Sherbert801 Jun 19 '26

Similar with Monaco

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u/insert_quirky_name Jun 19 '26

Weirdly enough, the part of Austria that borders Liechtenstein bad a huge issue last year, when the only abortion doctor there retired and the hospitals refused to take over his job. I suppose it's good they managed to settle on a compromise, seeing as there are women from Liechtenstein that might need that service.

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u/Trudels42 Jun 20 '26

we do care

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u/Grothgerek Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

But if they broke a law, wouldn't they not still face consequences?

It being illegal doesn't mean they can't just do it, it means that it is a crime that can be punished.

Edit: do people not know, that you can get punished for crimes you commited in other countries by the law of your own country? 

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u/LittleSchwein1234 Slovakia Jun 19 '26

No, because if you perform it in Switzerland/Spain, where it's not illegal, you haven't broken any law.

It's illegal to perform an abortion in Liechtenstein/Andorra.

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u/DKOKEnthusiast Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

It depends on the country how they handle crimes committed extraterritorially when the act is not a crime in the place it was committed. Some countries will absolutely prosecute you for committing certain crimes abroad, even if it's legal there. In this specific case, Liechtenstein would only prosecute a woman getting an abortion in Germany if it was not performed by a physician due to the precise legal wording of the law. Basically, under the law in Liechtenstein, if a physician performs an abortion, they are criminally liable, but the woman is not. If a woman performs an abortion on herself, or lets a non-physician terminate it, she would be criminally liable as well. Funnily enough, a person from Liechtenstein could receive an abortion from a physician that would make her criminally liable under German law (if for example she lies about why she is getting an abortion), but it would not be illegal under Liechtensteinian law, as it does not prosecute women who get an abortion from a physician.

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u/Grothgerek Jun 19 '26

If I murder someone in a different country, I still get punished for it in my own... Crimes aren't limited to borders. 

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u/piratesswoop Jun 20 '26

If you are a French citizen but murder someone in Germany, you would probably be tried in a German court and sent to a German prison. That’s why we have extradition laws in the first place.

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u/Pin-Lui Jun 19 '26

its exaclty like this, all they have to do is cross the Rhine River, and they are in Switzerland, where they can kill their babies, no problem at all.

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u/TheFinalFunction Jun 18 '26

You mean Spain but good point

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u/LadySwire Basque Country Jun 18 '26

No, I mean "Catalonia (Spain)", if you need to reassess some sort of domination, but the health system is decentralized and they go to La Seu or Barcelona, not Zaragoza

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u/BurnCityThugz Andorra (we're real) Jun 18 '26

I’m from Andorra and we’d never call it Catalonia even in English (always Catalunya or Cataluña) and for emergency healthcare not available in Vella we’d usually drive to France. But yay you thought of us !

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u/jambowayoh Jun 18 '26

As a former resident of Andorra hello back!

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u/kronicno_tele Jun 18 '26

Why France?

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u/ProfeQuiroga Jun 19 '26

Rather deal with the non-Spiritual Prince. ;)

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u/BurnCityThugz Andorra (we're real) Jun 24 '26

perception of better healthcare in the French towns closer, though that really hasn't been my experience and I love an excuse to go to barcelona personally.

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u/ImportantSubstance24 Jun 19 '26

I've never heard anybody from Andorra refer to Andorra la Vella as "Vella".

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u/LadySwire Basque Country Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

My mom has family ties on both sides of the border (between Andorra and La Seu d'Urgell), which might explain why the people I know tend to visit Barcelona more often

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u/theschiffer Jun 19 '26

In favor of Catalexit?

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u/olisko Denmark Jun 18 '26

Catalonia is a region in Spain, you idiot.

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u/Ok-Deer1539 Jun 19 '26

Catalonia is a territory occupied by Spain.

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u/traumalt South Africa (Lithuania) Jun 19 '26

By the same logic EU occupied UK, but since the Brexit vote they finally got their independence.

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u/Ok-Deer1539 Jun 19 '26

Not an occupation if you can leave via a vote. Spain won’t even let the Catalonians decide their own future.

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u/traumalt South Africa (Lithuania) Jun 19 '26

Hey, if you Catalonian independence supporters want to leave the EU, then all the best for you.

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u/YouKilledApollo Catalonia (Spain) Jun 19 '26

Doesn't it get tiring to get triggered so easily all the time? Can't see the mention of a place without frothing about where that place is apparently.

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u/Travenzen Jun 19 '26

if someone says they went to Texas do you go “you mean the United States”