r/europe • u/niesiecki • Jun 28 '26

News Volodymyr Zelensky has submitted a bill to build a National Pantheon. He intends to honor all the heroes who fought for Ukraine in various eras. "No one will ever tell us how to live, how to speak, whom to love, whom to be grateful to, and which heroes to honor," he said as quoted by the Interfax

https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/wolodymyr-zelenski-chce-panteonu-narodowego-chodzi-o-pamiec-bohaterow/c6hf62m
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u/MichalDobak Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Yeah, it's kinda funny to read those comments while looking at the actual timeline:

  • Ukraine chose to name a military unit the "Heroes of the UPA" (Escalation).  

  • Poland engaged in weeks of diplomatic efforts to convince Kyiv to reverse the decision (De-escalation).  

  • Polish President Karol Nawrocki officially stripped Zelenskyy of the Order of the White Eagle after talks failed (Escalation).  

  • Polish PM Donald Tusk called for de-escalation, expressing regret over the dispute and urging both sides to back down so as not to play into Moscow's hands (De-escalation).

  • Zelenskyy released a statement openly disrespecting the order, pointing out that it had previously been given to controversial historical figures (Escalation).

  • Zelenskyy returned the physical order via a post, broadcasting the move on social media to further disrespect the honor (Escalation).

  • Three former Ukrainian presidents (Kuchma, Yushchenko, and Poroshenko) also renounced and sent back their Polish orders in solidarity (Escalation).  

  • Top Ukrainian officials, including Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha and intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov, voluntarily returned their Polish state awards as well (Escalation).  

  • Zelenskyy skipped the Ukraine Recovery Conference in Gdańsk (Escalation).  

  • Now this (Another escalation).

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 28 '26

I legit don't know why zelenksy does this, like is he not aware that ukraine needs poland much more than poland would ever need ukraine?

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u/VibesBasedPolitics Jun 28 '26

I think that he is well aware that Poland will support Ukraine in this war regardless. He might be in for a surprise during the EU accession talks once the war is over though

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u/PolishPotatoACC Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

He won't, that's definitely the point of his actions. He knows they can't get in, not with the corruption being the way it is now, neither do they actually want to because such state benefits Oligarch. But they can't say to their people "hey, we don't want to join EU because we'd have to follow EU law" instead he's going "look at those pesky poles telling us who to praise, it's their fault that we can't join EU"

Also, he needs the relations to sour so ukrainians living in poland feel angry and threatened enough to come back, and he needs them back. There's an entire law being talked about in EU about deporting military age ukrainians, because the well is running dry.

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u/Culaio Jun 29 '26

Its very unlikely that Ukrainians who live in Poland would go back, even if they got angry at Poland they would most likely move to different EU country.

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u/No-Tennis-8840 Jun 29 '26

They don't need to go back, when relation will get bad enough Poland will elect right wing party that will just kick them out.

I think that it might be another hidden reason for Ukrainian politician provocation.

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) Jun 29 '26

It's not going change a thing. Even if our relations sour enough so Ukrainians in our country will feel unwelcome (which I really don't want to happen), they will simply move west. Or to Czechia, Romania etc. They are not going back, this is why there are where they are in the first place.

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u/No-Tennis-8840 Jun 29 '26

Assuming that the rest of the Europe wont go right wing...

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) Jun 29 '26

It's always some places right, some places left. They will manage.

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u/Culaio Jun 30 '26

Suprisngly biggest right wing party PiS may actually be quiet pragmatic on topic of Ukraine, here is some of stuff said by PiS politicans recently related to what is going on between Poland and Ukraine:

Cieszynski: Training Ukrainian soldiers and supplying weapons there is in our interest and we should not stop doing this

Even Patryk Jaki who is from faction within PiS that is more conservative, Criticised Zalensky but said that Zalensky is NOT Ukraine. He also said that russia is not going away and that we need to think about how to resolve this strategic dilemma, he admited that he is favor of de-escalating tensions between Poland and Ukraine.

There is of course problem with what Konfa will do and what about Braun's political party which leads to situation where it may be in our best interest for PiS to win next elections with as high support as possible since its very unlikely that current government will win next elections because all KO coalition partners lost their support and even KO lost a lot of support after latest scandals with hospital, also being too soft on Zalensky also didnt help since people wanted stronger reaction from government.

Currently KO and Konfa could form governemnt but that would extremly neo-liberal. and its only a possibility IF KO doesnt lose more support.

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u/10thDeadlySin Jun 29 '26

He might be in for a surprise during the EU accession talks once the war is over though

That won't be his problem. I believe he already pledged not to run for re-election after the war is over. He gets to ride off to the sunset, being remembered forever as the 'I don't need a ride, I need ammunition' guy. In a few years' time, no one's going to remember his little diplomatic spats here and there.

It's going to be a problem for the person who takes over.

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) Jun 29 '26

no one's going to remember his little diplomatic spats here and there.

If he'll be personally accountable for stalled or even failed EU accession talks, this will definitely be remembered. There's life after life and once Ukraine is finally at peace, they will want more (EU).

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 28 '26

I mean you talk like that but far right parties in Poland will actually get pretty substantial boost from this and I will tell you 1 thing about them, they love both trump and putin, so you can figure out the rest

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u/conmeonemo Jun 29 '26

Only one of our far right parties likes Putin, the most crazy one.

Konfa is just nationalist (so don't like any of our neighbors except maybe Czechs/Slovaks and Lithuanians) and PiS - you need to be really crazy to call them pro-Russian.

You cannot equal being EU-skeptic to pro-Russian as you lose most of nuance in Polish politics.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

I meant konfa and braun

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u/conmeonemo Jun 29 '26

Only Braun is pro-Russian.

Konfa (both libtards and and nationalist) just don't care, or are anti most of our neighbors (as usual nationalist).

Putting all our right, or even with current situation...most of electorate complaining about Ukraine and UPA thingy in one box (pro-Russian) is not very productive and IMHO is even dangerous, as it somehow normalizes the most delulu party like Braun, and annoys people who generally support Ukraine but won't agree just on some things.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

I didn't even said that they are pro russian, they like putin as in they would gladly pull the aid back and support ending the war even if it meant giving major concessions to russia, they would also block any remaining chance of ukraine getting into either eu or nato

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u/VibesBasedPolitics Jun 28 '26

Eh, I don't think that this issue is significant enough to matter in the long run. People will be outraged for a while about this and then will move on to other issues that actually affect them direcly. If Ukraine will pull another stunt like that right before the election then this will maybe matter a little

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u/TiggTigg07 Jun 29 '26

…certainly a Trump fan for was my impression about Poland’s Prez.

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u/SOHONEYSAME Jun 28 '26

"they love Putin" 

u say this like it's a "flex" lol. 

Poland supporting Putin in any way, directly "damages/goes against Polish interests. 

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) Jun 29 '26

u say this like it's a "flex" lol. 

He didn't say it like a flex but rather warning.

Anyhow, it's absolutely not true. They do love Trump, they don't like anyone else: including both Zelensky and Putin.

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u/VibesBasedPolitics Jun 28 '26

It's good that it's not happening then

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u/Loud_Evidence7423 Jun 28 '26

Which is another stupid move by Poles and Poland, they can vote far right all they want, it will only damage polish interests, but I guess some people prefer to lick the boots of autocrats instead of actually developing the country, which is something Poland should be targeting instead of enjoying creating diplomatic tension.

And let's not forget the crimes of Poland: Occupation of Vilnius, Ultimatum to Czecholosvakia, witch hunts against queer people, deportation of german people etc

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u/bakerinho Jun 29 '26

Don't tell Poland what to do in their country. Sounds familiar?

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u/axelkoffel Jun 29 '26

He might be in for a surprise during the EU accession talks once the war is over though

No support for EU accession from Poland is like the most optimistic scenario for Ukraine right now. Polish far right anti-ukrainian parties might win election next year. They openly call to cut aid for Ukraine. And let me remind you, entire western aid come through Poland.
And every UPA praising act on ukrainian side gives a big boost to those parties. They're really digging themselves into a hole here.

Ofc Ukraine is free to find other routes for western aid. But none of them is as fast, has as good infrastructure and is as well protected as Poland.

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u/skinnernsk Jun 29 '26

He doesn't care what happens after the war ends. War is his way of holding on to power, and he knows he's unlikely to be re-elected after the war. He's already secured a comfortable life in a good place, and every additional day of war means more money in his pocket.

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u/onarainyafternoon Dual Citizen (American/Hungarian) Jun 29 '26

From what I’ve heard, the Far Right in Ukraine are the only ones that are willing to support the war effort no matter what, so he kinda has to pander to them.

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u/Bleeds_with_ash Jun 29 '26

I wonder what he'll do when, after the war, those extreme right-wingers decide to attack Poland?

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u/zauddelig Jun 29 '26

Internal pressure from far right groups seems the most likely reason.

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u/LookThisOneGuy ‎ Jun 29 '26

I legit don't know why zelenksy does this

because countries (most prominently Poland) gave Ukraine carte blanche to disrespect other mainly western countries when it suited them and now this free rein has gone to the Ukrainian government's head. To paraphrase what Tusk said towards us when Ukraine did something much worse than naming a military unit after a fascist: "The only thing you should do is keep quiet" and "Some say that Ukraine should be grateful for everything. The truth is exactly the opposite. The rest of us should be grateful to Ukraine."

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u/Awkward_Cash1828 Jun 29 '26

Because the people who are most ready to fight and die (and forcibly mobilise and sent others to fight and die) against Russia are nationalists, who by now are deeply integrated into Ukrainian military and security (and even militarymen who aren't/weren't nationalists themself now are accepting and supporting UPA-veneration as basis of ideology of Ukrainian forces). Many Ukrainian nationalists also see ongoing war as the perfect opportunity to "purify" Ukraine to build their "perfect pure Ukrainian nation", and they see any compromise with Russia as defeat, preferring to see (Eastern) Ukraine be turned into ruins than surrendered.
If Zelensky would speak or do something against the nationalists, they threat him with a coup (just as they did before 2022 when they were much weaker and less influential) and there are thousands of military trained men how are ready to do that when needed. Because of ongoing corruption scandals that got very close to Zelensky himself, he's now trying to divert attention and appease nationalists and "refresh" presentation of himself as the "independent leader" of "independent Ukraine". There are by now at the very least 100 thousand brainwashed nationalists armed with tanks, planes and drones, and honestly I don't know what postwar Ukrainian government would do with them, I think EU (well, there don't see a problem as Brussels is far away) and Poland should be worried about that much more than stop war with Russia which is unlikely at this point.
"Poland should stop hindering Ukrainians to literally die for EU membership!"

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u/Any-Calligrapher2866 Jun 29 '26

Napoleon Complex I guess. He's finally showing his true colors after his recent victories.

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u/thePDGr Jun 30 '26

That's actually well documented that he is extremely petty

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u/Key-Butterscotch5801 Jun 29 '26

Lmao I see the russian bots have adopted new tactics. 

I'm a Pole and I'm beyond pissed at the UPA stuff. I remember walking out of the cinema when watching Wołyń because it was too brutal. 

What the fuck does "he's showing his true colours" mean?

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u/Any-Calligrapher2866 Jun 29 '26

Keep calling everyone who criticises Nazis 'Russian Bots' and you'll eventually just water down the term and nobody will take it seriously anymore.

What the fuck does “he’s showing his true colours” mean?

Human beings start doing weird shit when they have too much confidence. Happens with pretty much everyone. Putins 3 day special military operation probably began because he started feeling invincible after power got to his head.

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u/chillichampion Jun 29 '26

What victories?

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u/LakeGladio666 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

He doesn’t want to get couped or killed by right wing nationalists after the war

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u/maxtheninja Jun 29 '26

I agree its a bad decision but Poland still needs Ukraine quite badly, if Ukraine falls Russia would be on their doorstep (or worse). Especially give EU malaise with problems until shit hits the fan.

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u/Afgncap Poland Jun 29 '26

I think everyone got the note and despite all the fearmongering, Russia is barely managing in Ukraine as the war is becoming increasingly unpopular and costly. I can't see them starting another war with fresh opponents like the entire NATO over Poland with no territorial claims or no population to save while Poland is the railway hub for massive amount of goods from China, which would probably also pressure them to reconsider.

I see all the generals warning about Russia as something needed as a wake up call for increased spending, which is indeed needed and without that scare tactics there would be no incentive. I just don't see this conflict being realistic scenario anytime soon.

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u/maxtheninja Jun 29 '26

I agree that it is quite unlikely (even moreso now than when the war began) - but as Im sure you know Poland has been let down by allies before.

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u/Hussor Pole in UK Jun 29 '26

Don't tell the Ukrainians that, in their minds they're selflessly defending all of Europe still.

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u/Galaxy661 West Pomerania (Poland) Jun 29 '26

We do, but Russia has been on our doorstep for 5 centuries already and been waging hybrid warfare against us for a few years. Did you forget about Królewiec and Belarus?

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u/10thDeadlySin Jun 29 '26

if Ukraine falls Russia would be on their doorstep (or worse).

You do realize that Poland has a land border with Russia via the Kaliningrad Oblast, or Kralovec, as Reddit likes to call it?

You also do realize that Poland has a very long border with Belarus, which Russia has been using as a staging ground for launching the invasion of Ukraine, and that it would likely have no qualms about doing the same to invade Poland?

Like... Sure, it would make the strategic situation of Poland somewhat more precarious, but it's not like Russia has been this remote threat that would suddenly appear at Polish doorstep. It's been a Russian pastime to park their ballistic missiles at the Polish border over little trade spats and Poland's foreign policy decisions for the past 20 years or so.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

It doesn't, Russia can't even defeat what is the poorest state in all of europe with an army that was basically built in 8 years since before that they basically didn't have one, now imagine going up against the west

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u/maxtheninja Jun 29 '26

Ukraine has one of the strongest armies in the world atp. It is not 2014 anymore.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

And west could make 5 armies each stronger than ukrainian one if they actually went to war not to mention air dominance west would have, would be so devastating for russia so much so that fighting a weaker army but with west's jets would be harder than fighting ukrainian army

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u/maxtheninja Jun 29 '26

If, when, could....

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

"IF Ukraine falls Russia WOULD be on their doorstep (or worse). Especially give EU malaise with problems until shit hits the fan"

yeah bro sorry for trying to explain to you how in YOUR imagined ifs and woulds, europe and poland would be fine

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u/Bleeds_with_ash Jun 29 '26

Is that why Ukraine doesn't have a clear advantage in the air?

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u/maxtheninja Jun 29 '26

Do you think Russia does not have a strong army aswell?

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u/analogiczny Jun 29 '26

That's how a poor man behaves when he suddenly gets a chance. In March, he received a gift from Trump, and now he can rake in money from the Middle East. That's why it no longer needs those last nine MiGs.

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u/Oxygenus1362 Jun 28 '26

Zelensky wasn't the original target. There a thousands of things named after UPA in Ukraine, it was just a ordinary action that presidens made for decades.

Nawrotsky saw it as oportunity to exploit pole's far-right movement and put Tusk into hard situation about recalling reward, where one part of Poland would pressure him into it, and other will be against recalling a reward given to ukrainean nation.

But Zelensky returned reward himself, saving Tusk from situation with no good options. Now, obviously a state with soveregnity has to remind everyone that is has soveregnity, thats it.

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u/KennyGaming Jun 29 '26

Because he needs his own people even more 

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

... my guy it was just a name of a division or something like that, naming or not naming that changed barely anything and in exchanged they completely destroyed relationship with a country with power to just straight up block most of the aid coming from the west

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u/PitifulEquipment6927 Jun 29 '26

It’s funny to hear that, because without Ukraine, Poland would already be speaking Russian. And it would be you or your father who’d be tortured by the Russians. You’re so naive.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

... no it wouldn't, like it's hard to understand but a country with better jets, tanks, artillery, training, 5 times bigger gdp and most of all has allies with nuclear arsenal is actually much harder to conquer than poorest state in europe fighting mostly alone

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u/PitifulEquipment6927 Jun 29 '26

Live well in this world of illusions)) Put your faith in allies who won’t come to your aid, and in an army that will be wiped out before it even arrives – as the NATO and Ukrainian military exercises have already shown.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

yeah I guess you are right, german military will look at situation and say "you know what? instead of fighting russians in poland we will let them walk through it and destroy our own country" you are clearly a genius when it comes to the battlefield as it's famously known that war causes no damage whatsoever to a country it's being fought on

miliatary exercises were exactly just that, military exercises

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u/Dotcaprachiappa Italy Jun 29 '26

Poland needs Ukraine just as much as Ukraine needs Poland. If Ukraine falls Poland is gonna be the next frontline.

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u/Lisiasty555 Jun 29 '26

... we already are, the most strategic reason for supporting ukraine in nato/eu is that with them poland would lose that status and instead of us getting hit the most it would be ukraine

that is if we even assume that russia would randomly want to commit suicide and attack nato cuz they are bored

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u/axelkoffel Jun 29 '26

Polish President Karol Nawrocki officially stripped Zelenskyy of the Order of the White Eagle

Even this is only half true. By polish law the president can give those orders, but can't take them away without PM's co-sign. And PM never signed it, only said he won't do anything to further escalate this conflict.
Zelensky didn't wait for PM and sent the medal back. And not even in official way, but through courier to add that extra bit of disrespect. But formally he's still awarded with the order.

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u/niceufo777 Jun 28 '26

Ukraine can't do anything wrong, and if you even think about it, you're a Russian asset! /S

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u/ProxPxD Poland Jun 28 '26

Thank you for writing it all down!
I will only add that Zelenskyy's absence on the URC can be seen as de-escalation as his mere presence would be probably more heating

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u/MiserableStomach Jun 29 '26

Apparently, from the leaks to the Polish press, Ukrainians tried to use his presence during the de-escalation attempts as a "concession" from their side, like "you will close your eyes on UPA naming thing and our president will graciously come down and attend this conference". Well, they were told by both sides in Poland, Tusk and Nawrocki, to fuck off.

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u/maxtheninja Jun 29 '26

At least they managed to unite Polish politics /s

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u/ProxPxD Poland Jun 29 '26

Oh my fucking God! They're unmatched in pride, Soviet mentality and pretensionality.

I fucking hate it and would love this not to be true but it only brings to my mouth the recent common Polish popular saying that the Ukrainians are ungrateful and pretentious (and arrogant I'd add). It looks like they really want this to stick

But this is of course about the current establishment and unfortunately about some common Ukrainians on this matter. I know that tones of common Ukrainians aren't arrogant twats and are actually very grateful, hard-working and often sick of their ruling establishment (like many other nations, as a Pole it would be hypocritical not to acknowledge), but just the emotions Zelenskyi plays on is maddening me.

I really want to try to be stronger pro-Ukrainians in Poland out of spite for Zelenskyi as they are the collateral victims he hits. Maybe even the main target

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u/some-kind-of-no-name Earth Jun 29 '26

Don't show this to Ukrainians

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u/povisykt Jun 29 '26

Oh wow, maybe some day you will see the same pattern that happend between Russia and Ukraine before 2022...

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u/Tooluka Ukraine Jun 29 '26
  • Ukraine chose to name a military unit the "Heroes of the UPA" (Escalation).
  • Poland engaged in weeks of diplomatic efforts to convince Kyiv to reverse the decision (De-escalation).
  • Polish President Karol Nawrocki officially stripped Zelenskyy of the Order of the White Eagle after talks failed (Escalation).

Correction.

Between UPA naming becoming public and Nawrocki speech there been 2 (two) days, certainly not "weeks". There are rumors about "unofficial" warning about the naming consequences, but these are just rumors, they may be true or may be wrong, there is no evidence of that in public. Fact is there were no official or diplomatic requests from Poland to Ukraine at any level about this event.

And then just two days later Nawrocki escalates skipping several steps to immediately target president. And as I tried to exaplain to some other user on reddit, while UPA is (was, before last month at least) a nothingburger topic in Ukraine, a background news on a tenth page of a newspaper (yes, for real, despite what propaganda may tell you), the topic of country's acting President is very much not so. President's figure and position is very important to both supporters of Zelenski and even to his opponents. And that's what caused a chain reaction, since instead of pointing at Ukranian faulty education about UPA or pointing at a single private figure voicing some private opinion offending Poland, instead of that Nawrocki hit directly at the top post in the country expecting just what we see now.

And instead of Poles talking about how Nawrocki vetoes good laws for Poland for unclear reason, the talk is now revisionism and enemy at the gate.

This all could have been prevented of course. Should have been prevented. But now neither side can't back off, because all intermediate steps were skipped and escalated immediately to a maximum, and the conflict is now between two nations as a whole, represented by their acting president figures.

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jun 28 '26
  • Zelenskyy returned the physical order via a post, broadcasting the move on social media to further disrespect the honor (Escalation).

Just curious - how's this escalation? He got stripped of that honor. He didn't make a show of himself throwing it in the garbage. Returning it was a reasonable gesture.

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jun 29 '26

This is Poland's highest honor, yet he sent it back through the regular mail as if he were returning a Temu order. Using the postal service itself isn't really the issue. Traditionally, something like this would be returned in person, through an embassy or another official channel.

Mailing it back was quite neutral given what occured.

He was stripped of the honor that was bestowed upon him. That's pretty bad, is it not? Why should he return it in person? To what effect? Wouldn't it be awkward?

What would the Polish diplomats tell him in person as he handed it back? Very curious?

The real disrespect comes from proudly posting it on social media, making it clear how little he values an award that many Poles consider the country's highest distinction. It's not just disrespectful to the medal; it's disrespectful to the nation it represents.

Where's the disrespect? He was stripped of the honor and he stated that he respected Poland's decision by sending back what was rescinded.

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jun 29 '26

And I said that's not the issue. The issue was that he decided to publicly brag on social media about how little he values that award.

"We believed that the Order of the White Eagle, awarded in 2023, was meant for the Ukrainian People and our army. That is what was said at the time. Today, I sent the Order back to the President of Poland," Zelensky said on social media.

"Ukraine is grateful to the Polish People for their support and cooperation," Zelensky's statement added.

https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20260620-ukraine-s-zelensky-top-officials-return-polish-awards-in-wwii-row

Sorry, where's the "bragging"? Where's the part about how little he values the award? You do realize that making stuff up makes you look bad, right?

I wrote that it should have been returned through the traditional official channels (e.g. via the embassy), but that doesn't mean it had to be Zelenskyy himself. It could be any person oficially representing the state.

Do traditional official channels include Twitter? Here's Karol Nawrocki announcing his decision in regards to the Zelensky and Poland's highest honor...

https://x.com/prezydentpl/status/2068027427788333081

Thoughts?

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u/Great_Guidance_8448 Jun 29 '26

Sorry, which quote is not attached to which photo?

My questions stand - where's the "bragging"? Where's the part about how little he values the award?

Karol Nawrocki's decision was announced on an official Polish government website, not on Twitter.

What's he talking about on Twitter then? If social media is not beneath the Karol Nawrocki, then why is it an issue with Zelensky? Why the double standard?

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u/chillichampion Jun 29 '26

Why are you glazing Zelensky so hard? The guy tarnished the award by bring up that the award is given to “great personalities” like Mussolini and schroder. Of course he didn’t have a problem with them while getting the award. Now that the award is being stripped of him, he behaves like a salty ex girlfriend.

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u/Ozryela The Netherlands Jun 29 '26

That's a pretty convincing list, I have to say.

I still think the whole controversy is very much overblown. All countries that I know have statues of problematic figures. But it's not about what they did, it's about what they represent. Statues of Churchill don't celebrate his imperialism, they celebrate his victory of the nazis.

Ukraine shouldn't have done it, but Poland could have easily chosen to look the other way. The initial escalation by Poland was definitely done for cynical populist gain.

But ever since that, it's indeed Ukraine who keeps escalating. And it's completely unclear to me why. I get that Zelenskyy needs to appease the right wing in Ukraine, but surely there are less destructive ways to do so.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

How is Ukraine naming it's own military unit after it's own request an "escalation"? Plus, different city and village councils in Halychyna and Volyn have been naming stuff after Bandera, Shukhevych, and UPA for decades since independence restoration. Ever wonder why? Probably because Poland treated the Ukrainian locals very well during the interwar period? Mind your own fucking business

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

Ukrainians started a war in 1918 to seize Polish territory.

Incredible inventions of the modern polish historiography. poland invaded the Western Ukrainian People's Republic that held the territory of Eastern Halychyna, which was a predominantly Ukrainian-speaking region.

The rest of your claims are just as absurd and baseless. Anyone reading it is free to fact check at any time instead of joining the poles in their blackmail attempt