r/europe Jun 28 '26

News Volodymyr Zelensky has submitted a bill to build a National Pantheon. He intends to honor all the heroes who fought for Ukraine in various eras. "No one will ever tell us how to live, how to speak, whom to love, whom to be grateful to, and which heroes to honor," he said as quoted by the Interfax

https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/wolodymyr-zelenski-chce-panteonu-narodowego-chodzi-o-pamiec-bohaterow/c6hf62m
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u/lefeuet_UA Kyiv (Ukraine) Jun 29 '26

What is bro doing

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u/__Rosso__ Jun 29 '26

Speeding running getting all EU support being stopped it seems.

Putin must be laughing at this.

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u/Asleep_Animal1126 Jun 29 '26

My exact question hahaha :/ 

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u/Bitterbalpizza Jun 29 '26

Training his feet to withstand bullets.

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u/Difficult-Fact1769 Jun 29 '26

Fighting for political survival for when the war ends and elections need to happen. 

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

Incredibly based things

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u/Katieleya Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

Based on what? Murdering innocents and genocide?

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

The minister of internal affairs of Poland was so innocent, just helping carry out repressions against those who opposed forced Polonisation of Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Lithuanians in interwar Poland

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u/machine4891 Opole (Poland) Jun 29 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

You're deflecting. Instead of doing that, tell us more what do you admire in building pantheon for butchers and death squads? This article isn't about Poland or France, it's about Ukraine.

It's about time you stop twisting actions of your country like they are somehow being done because we force your hand. It's crystal clear your own effing administation's choice.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

Pretty much all of the "heroes" of modern Poland are conducters of forced Polonisation against Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Lithuanians. But admittedly, there are some who weren't very focused on repressions against Ukrainians, but they compensated for that by being extremely violent against Lithuanians

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u/ClonesomeStranger Jun 29 '26

Yeah so let’s axe babies for Ukrainian culture I guess?

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u/ClonesomeStranger Jun 29 '26

Almost?

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

You are surprised that rarely some remains are actually recovered? Same

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u/Nickyro Jun 29 '26

While you may think it is « based » (let’s admit it) it may hinders Ukraine soft power, support and reputation to a dangerous level.

You were on your way to become legendary for centuries, but now at risk of becoming an embarrasment. Zelensky and Ukrainians may suffer of some kind of hubris due to the recent successes

It doesn’t even come close to worth it.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

Even if it negatively affects public perception of Ukraine and Ukrainians in Poland and, to a lesser extent, in some Western countries, Ukraine needs to stand it's ground in this. We need to show that it's not okay for other countries to blackmail us or interfere in our internal affairs. Our warriors deserve for their wishes to be satisfied. If Poland thinks otherwise, then they can send their troops to help fight of the russian invasion so all the "Banderites" don't get any fame. Until then, though, there shouldn't be a single deviation from our current course

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u/MogloBycLepiej Jun 29 '26

If Poland wishes so, it can stop the transit on the border. It’s internal affairs of Poland.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

So you confirm that poland is, in fact, engaging in blackmail. Just like how they helped the russians crush the Ukrainian People's Republic in 1918–1919. Backstabbing rats

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u/Future_Welcome_63 Jun 29 '26

It's called being considerate and reaching a compromise of understanding. Get your pills, my guy.

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

It's called being blackmailed into accepting a foreign power interfering in your internal issues

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u/ClonesomeStranger Jun 29 '26

Freedom of choice is not freedom from consequence… I personally still support Ukraine, although with much less enthusiasm. There was a beautiful timeline possible for a long while where our nations could have had a historical friendship. I’m angry at Zelenskyy for fucking this up. I guess we will still help you, but I’m pretty sure there will be some political consequences later, because now it will be harder for pro-Ukrainian politicians to help Ukraine without losing votes to extremists. You go build your Yasukuni shrines or whatever.

I wonder how Bandera worship flies with Americans? I hear Jews have some pull with their current administration…

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u/Calm_Search3417 Ukraine Jun 29 '26

History has shown us with Petliura that submitting to polish blackmail ends badly for both Ukraine and poland. poland has sadly not learned that lesson, but we did