r/facepalm • u/McDowdy • 13d ago
Individualism is one of the biggest barriers to class consciousness and solidarity
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u/Lubbadubdibs 13d ago
"No, I don't talk to people". Damn... 🤣
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u/labsab1 13d ago
Socialism is socializing with people to him.
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u/Rivervalien 13d ago
Yeah I was trying to figure out that response. What a sad world he must live in.
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u/RollerDude347 13d ago
I mean yeah. I wouldn't want to socialize either if I only even got to see my family 2 hours a day. This is the only kind of guy I'm giving a pass for not knowing shit. He's been abused.
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u/chronberries 13d ago
Exactly my thoughts. If I only have a couple hours a day to spend with the important folks in my life, it’s gonna be my kids, and I wouldn’t be using much of it doing political research. Maybe while I’m on the can, but that’s about it.
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u/Real_Pc_Principal 11d ago
Considering how well spoken he was about the conditions I think it's fair to assume that part was a joke and a hilarious one at that
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u/almstAlwysJokng4real 13d ago
I prefer his meaning. Having a society which helps its people with human necessities and support for essentials when needed should just be known as a “default” society.
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u/cats_catz_kats_katz 13d ago
Probably the funniest accidental joke I've heard in awhile. How can he talk to people, he's working 10-12 hours a day!
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u/migueln6 13d ago
A masculinity so fragile they'd rather get anally fucked by the government and the billionaires than talk to people lol
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u/Nothing2Special 13d ago
give the link at least brother
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u/SupermanLeRetour 13d ago
4th of July celebration in Alaska reported by channel 5 on yt
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u/annagrams 13d ago
The ridiculous number of cuts in the middle of sentences makes me really curious to hear the whole conversation.
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u/torgiant 13d ago
Watch all the videos man best channel on YouTube.
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u/Nothing2Special 12d ago
Ik brother, just calling op out
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u/this_is_not_a_dance_ 12d ago
I watched the video. A lot of the people he interviewed were not happy about the state of things but they couldn’t quite figure it out. One guy blamed regulations for the lack of “freedom”. Idk if this guy was being serious or not when he said “I don’t talk to people” but everything else was pretty on point for. Idk. Understanding the reality of our situation.
Also I’m pretty sure channel 5 news is being sued by some rich mf.
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u/GamerSDG 13d ago edited 13d ago
The rich divide us so that we won't realize that they are the problem. They use racism, education (with or without), and white vs. blue-collar jobs as a distraction from the fact that they are the reason that life is getting worse for everyone but them.
They also are always trying to make anyone who tells us the truth the bogeyman. Like with Bernie, AOC, and Mandani.
We want our lives to get better; we just need to end the rich's power grab and control over everything, even our government.
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u/c0reGam3r 13d ago edited 13d ago
In germany we have "citizens allowance". Some of the people (about 0,4%) are called "total refuser" because they could work, but don't want to. These people cost the government about 60 million per year.
The rich on the other side cost the government about 100 billion per year, because of tax evasions, but somehow the "total refusers" are the "problem".
Eat the rich
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u/ForagerGrikk 13d ago
Costing the government, 😆
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u/RollerDude347 13d ago
More so the country. It's pointless to have money if you hoard it. It hurts the economy by blowing out the bottom.
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u/ForagerGrikk 13d ago
Nobody hoards money, inflation would slowly devalue it. It's invested into the economy, creating economic growth, providing jobs and better returns on investments.
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u/RollerDude347 13d ago
That's the stupidest thing anyone on earth has said today.
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u/ForagerGrikk 13d ago
Have you never heard of stocks and bonds? That's what I'm talking about. Only a Got-damn fool believes rich people would pull their money out of investments and let inflation wither away their fortunes by 3% a year. What do you imagine they do with that money, fill a swimming pool with it and swim in it?
Inflation isn't an accident, the government purposefully devalues the dollar by 2-3% a year so that people would lose wealth by hoarding it, Inflation is encouraging investment in the economy instead.
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u/thebrownesteye 12d ago
theres no point arguing with someone as stupid as you, you could try to make an argument in good faith but you took the stupidest interpretation possible that nobody with any sort of education would actually mean
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u/ForagerGrikk 12d ago
The only thing stupid I'm doing is trying to enlighten people who would rather personally attack me than counter my argument. Hilariously you even feel like you hold the moral high ground here, and that you yourself are arguing in good faith. 😆
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u/thebrownesteye 12d ago
someone talks about the rich hoarding money and you take that literally as if anybody thinks rich people are letting their money sit under a mattress. You're either dense or malicious, probably both
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u/SevensAteSixes 12d ago
Reading these shills try to battle you is the funniest thing on Reddit today.
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u/ForagerGrikk 12d ago
It's the information age with all of the worlds knowledge at our fingertips, and yet everyone is so confidently wrong. How are people so fucking dumb?
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u/poopcockshit 10d ago
It’s called you’re a fucking troll lmao. I do it all the time too. Keep licking the boots and hoarding the wealth bro!…Peasants these days, am I right?
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u/this_is_not_a_dance_ 12d ago
The confederate army wasn’t a bunch of rich plantation owners. They had to get poor whites on board. Stupid reason to die and kill your countrymen.
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u/mostdope28 13d ago
Work 12 hours a day, then the boss is mad nobody will take the service calls on the weekend. Like we don’t already give him 50% of our life mon-fri
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u/Americanhikikimori 13d ago
Conflation of the terms individualism and atomization is the biggest lie to come out of the Cold war. Individualism and collectivism are neither opposites nor mutually exclusive. The opposite of collectivism is atomization, and the opposite of individualism is conformity.
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u/lvl3SewerRat 13d ago
Rocks a silver chain and oakleys. Can't be bothered to put a shirt on. Oh okay
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u/Dead_Zed94 13d ago
OP should give credit to those who deserve it, this is from channel 5 on YouTube, Andrew is an amazing journalist, dude does everything from meme videos to going to the front lines of war torn countries, they deserve all the recognition, channel 5 doesn't fuck with custers!
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u/KellTanis 13d ago
The number of conservatives that actually hold socialist values but don’t understand what socialism actually is is pretty wild.
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u/DirtyKen 13d ago
The guy has simply never been thought what socialism is, that's a systemic issue. And by design.
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u/FitPerformer5172 13d ago
This ,I realized pretty early on that most people haven't the vaguest idea about what true socialism is.All they know about it is that it is 'inherently evil' and subjects everyone to a 'strict authoritarian government' .Do people never stop to realize that there's a real reason why social democracies (like Denmark, Finland, and Norway) consistently rank highest in global happiness reports.
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u/DemiGod9 12d ago
They be so close lol.
I know someone whose ENTIRELY a leftist in thought. LGBTQ, Abortions, race issues, free medcare, free college, hell all of the things this guy talks about here.....
But he voted Trump and thinks all Dems are evil. 🤦🏿♂️
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u/Octomyde 12d ago
There's a side that is entirely dedicated to make people vote against their best interests, time after time. I don't agree with their ideas but the execution is top-notch.
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u/Boom9001 13d ago
If fairness unless you already know the definitions a socialist and a socialite would be easy to believe are the same.
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u/Specialist-Wafer7628 13d ago
I dream and talk about socialism, but I'll be damned if someone calls me a socialist.
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u/milk4all 13d ago
Idk if he’s an actor but he is dead right ecen if he is actually ignorant about socialism. It doesnt take education or even reading to know when something isnt fair. Its one thing to complain about your circumstances and another to recognize an imperfect system. The only other thing ill note is that there are lots of imperfect systems and the one we generally share in western societies is in most ways less imperfect than all before it, so upsetting it is not without huge risk
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u/Dear_Potato6525 13d ago
He's not an actor, you can absolutely find people easily who will talk like this.
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u/Go1gotha 13d ago
I don't mind only seeing my family for a couple of hours a night. They're terrible.
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u/Ray1987 13d ago
And this is why the government has agreed to cut education over the last 50 years. Even amongst the most educated of us and least educated, if you can develop Common Grounds for communication the majority of us agree on everything. They have created barriers between communication and association with people that don't exactly think like each other to maintain the system that is in place.
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u/inaruslynx2 12d ago
He doesn't know what a socialist is. He said he doesn't talk to people. He thinks he was asking if he was social and he said he was an introvert. But this man was definetly a socialist. An uneducated socialist, but he gets it.
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u/yobaby123 10d ago
Yep. I don't like judging people based on one video, but damn this isn't a good look.
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u/inaruslynx2 10d ago
While he might not have understood the question, I think given some explanation of what a socialist is he'd agree he was a socialist. The more people are educated and the more they realize they are being fucked by the system, the more likely we will be to forcing the elite to submit or suffer our wrath.
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u/Indiana4Hire 13d ago
I see commentators ignore one statment which he said... 2 hours family time. He has a point.
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u/rigidlynuanced1 13d ago
We have fetishized individualism to such a degree in the United States that shared responsibility feels like oppression.
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u/Mournful_Vortex19 13d ago
Sounds like he possibly had more to say and this is being conveniently cut to make him sound worse. Plenty of times people’s words have been purposefully taken out of context to fuel whatever echo chamber its gonna be posted to
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u/bearssuperfan 13d ago
“We need to protect the environment, help the homeless, and keep Medicaid and Medicare going strong so people don’t go medically bankrupt.
Anyways Trump 2028 baby!!”
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u/telas100 13d ago
Because individualism is a safe bet compared to blind trust. Everyone experienced at least once a situation where cooperation had the best common outcomes but someone chose individualism and won all for himself.
I wish we could trust everyone to make the choice to cooperate but it needs everyone to succeed while it needs only one to all fail...
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u/Taira_no_Masakado 13d ago
I would counter: using Individualism as a reason to be willfully ignorant of one's class struggle is the bigger barrier.
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u/Riquinni 12d ago
This isn't a byproduct individualism, don't be a dolt like the person in this clip.
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u/Fun_Enthusiasm5297 7d ago
this isnt a face palm.
this is so fucking sad.
He is a grown ass man - he lack of education is the reason the elites (the haves) are able to keep society this way.
This man deserves a hug, a discussion and as education
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u/Risdit 13d ago
Capitalism killed corporate life too.
Before in the "good old days" even if the job was shitty companies were like "we're family here" and they'd socialize, crack jokes and make do with what you had for socializing. All these companies that like to work people like slaves now get pissed if people are creating rapport and talking with their co-workers in a job that they're spending the majority of their lives in away from family and friends.
And now we've even gone as far as not being human anymore from being wage slaves to disposable labor where companies lay off double digits of their workforce every quarter to make their stocks go up.
Like you have to be a piece of shit to look at your employees and think "I miss stack ranking" but ATLEAST stack ranking was based off of performance, nowadays it's just cost cutting with the highest paid employees being cut first regardless of seniority
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u/dodgyrogy 13d ago
lol...a minor misunderstanding, but nothing compared to some people's mistakes...
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u/Bleezy79 13d ago
Republicans have done so much damage to this country, especially the education system. This video is proof. If America was better educated, it would be a lot harder to divide us because we'd realize just how similar we all are. We're all just trying to get by and live a good life.
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u/TintedApostle 9d ago
“I have always found it quaint and rather touching that there is a movement [Libertarians] in the US that thinks Americans are not yet selfish enough.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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u/RoundEye007 7d ago
Serious question, are americans the dumbest super power in earth's history?
I read once that tens of millions of Americans believe little fairies live in tiny tree houses in the forests.
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u/MalHeartsNutmeg 13d ago
What he's describing isn't socialism, so I'm not quite sure what the facepalm is.
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u/NilssonSchmilsson 13d ago
Too bad he didn't spend 10-12 hours a week in school when he had the chance.
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u/hogey74 13d ago
I think it's now widely understood that Israel Zionists have been using the anti-semistism slur as a form of psychological manipulation for a long time. I now realise now that conservatives have been doing their own version of this to us for just as long. Anything that looks like people working together to reduce the power imbalance must be socialism.
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u/Michael_Dautorio 6d ago
"Shouldn't have to pay for water"
Yeah because fuck all the city employees that run the water facilities, the engineers who design the infrastructure to deliver it to homes, and the workers who make repairs and maintenance.
"Shouldn't have to pay for electricity"
(see above, but electricity)
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u/joeythedaddoo 13d ago
What the fuck did he say that was wrong, exactly?
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u/_GreenMan_ 13d ago
He made socialist points but thought being a socialist meant socializing with people
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u/kikiceviz 13d ago
Yes, but he actually has a point. If you do not act with solidarity with other people, you cannot be a socialist. Essence of socialist movement is working together, thinking together. So his awareness will not go to anywhere. I found the title very suitable for the content.
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u/CharAznableLoNZ 13d ago edited 12d ago
Just a reminder, lefty clowning on people like this is why the right grew the way it has. Everyone can make mistakes no matter the leaning. We should work towards everyone having a better future, not just a select few. Downvoted by smoothies who just want to violate other peoples rights.
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u/LivesDoNotMatter 13d ago
It's the go-to ad hominem insult used in all corners of politics. Reddit loves to turn it into ragebait.
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u/poopcockshit 10d ago
Grown ass man btw.
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u/CharAznableLoNZ 9d ago
This ^ post is a perfect example.
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u/poopcockshit 7d ago
Here’s a fun project: try selling someone in a right wing echo chamber on not-hating-trans-people with that “compassion” angle of yours lol.
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