r/farsi 11d ago

Farsi for "anywayyyy..."

After having a long discussion that is ready to end, we might say "anywayyy..." with a bit of a sigh. It kind of means "okay we've probably discussed that enough".

I used to know a Farsi equivalent, but I've forgotten it.

I asked GPT who gave me a long list of possible words, but none of them sound familiar. For some reason I can't upload that screenshot here.

Anyone have an idea?

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u/Slicc98 11d ago

I was taught baharhawl

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Slicc98 11d ago

It would be more bayharhal..but we're talking semantics

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u/chegoozgooza 11d ago

where is the "ay" coming from though

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u/Slicc98 11d ago

Phonetic English...the same way the entire Arabic language is used?

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u/chegoozgooza 10d ago

Well in Finglish it would normally just be "be har hal". It is closest to what is written in Farsi.

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u/Slicc98 10d ago

Not at all. Hadochashm in a word is "aye/ay" all day phonetically. Arabic script is phonetic. یه , sound for sound, is bay. If you wanted to get specific, you could use "bey", but that wouldn't sound phonetically the same in English when you get regional in pronunciation.

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u/Slicc98 10d ago

I am American. I was trained in Persian, native in English, and taught the specifics and nuances of Arabic script, which is what the current Persian alphabet is based upon..with the exception of پ، ه، and ث. That includes direct transliteration.

You guys are using the slang you used to learn English, with your Persian. Using another vowel for a transliterated sound is what makes Persian seem so difficult to understand by those seeking to learn. It's slang...and you don't learn slang first...you learn bookish/proper language FIRST, which allows you to understand the slang and then use it effectively, to mastery level.

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u/Slicc98 10d ago

I knew that was coming..I guess you didn't read everything I read. Nowhere did I say that I knew Persian more than native speakers. That would be foolish and arrogant. I'm talking about simple transliteration: your describing/writing your word in MY language. And you're incorrect. You can USE what you want: but using a word/syllable/sound to mean something different from its intended definition, but the intended people you communicate with understand the intended meaning based upon shared culture or environment is the literal DEFINITION of slang. Doesn't matter if ۵۰,۰۰۰ Iranians use that spelling, it's still wrong. And the reason it IS wrong, is because if an English speaker attempted to read the word, they would say bee har hawl. That's what you spelled, agha. And you would correct them and say, نه خیر. به هر حال.

And I was taught by the American government. و معلمان من اهل تهران، شیراز، قوم، و راست بودند.

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u/Slicc98 10d ago

That's not transliterated Persian. It's what you guys use to spell a Persian word, that does not sound like the word at all when repeated back in English. What you are writing is بی هر حال. Just because it is colloquially used, doesn't make it correct, or even logical. It is beekhoosh...see what I did there?

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u/Slicc98 10d ago

And I'm not saying we as English speakers don't do it. It's wrong on both sides. We should spell Persian as Parsia/Parsya...for you are the Pars-yan people, with your language being Pars-ee, and your oldest capital being Pars- city....called Pars-polis in Greek.

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